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Ex-State Dept. Lawyer: Bush Panicked After 9/11, Used Torture

ANDREW O. SELSKY   03/27/09 06:57 PM ET   AP

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SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — A former State Department lawyer responsible for Guantanamo-related cases said Friday that the Bush administration overreacted after 9/11 and set up a system in which torture occurred.

Vijay Padmanabhan is at least the second former Bush administration official to publicly label "enhanced interrogation techniques" as torture. He said the administration was wrong in its entire approach when it sent detainees to the remote Navy base and declared it out of reach of any court.

"I think Guantanamo was one of the worst overreactions of the Bush administration," Padmanabhan told The Associated Press. He said other overreactions included extraordinary renditions, waterboarding that occurred at secret CIA prisons and "other enhanced interrogation techniques that would constitute torture."

"The idea that you're going to be able to hold someone and detain someone where there is not an applicable legal regime governing their detention, rules, treatment, standards, etc. is, I think, foolish," he said.

The criticisms from Padmanabhan, the department's chief counsel on Guantanamo litigation, are among the harshest yet made by a former Bush administration insider.

President George W. Bush always denied the U.S. tortured anyone. The U.S. has acknowledged that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described plotter of Sept. 11, and a few other prisoners were waterboarded at secret CIA prisons before being taken to Guantanamo, but the Bush administration insisted that all interrogations were lawful.

Padmanabhan said he believes these tactics _ which the International Committee of the Red Cross has also described as torture _ were approved because the White House was shocked by the Sept. 11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, and wanted to prevent other horrors.

"These are not things that I think any American president would have authorized had they been in a calmer environment," Padmanabhan told AP in a telephone interview.

The first Bush administration official to publicly describe these acts as torture, Susan. J. Crawford, is the military official in charge of trying Guantanamo Bay detainees. She said in January that the United States tortured a Saudi detainee in 2002, preventing her from bringing him to trial.

Padmanabhan said the Bush administration's position invited a Supreme Court clash, which it lost when the justices ruled that Guantanamo detainees do have the right to contest their detention in U.S. courts.

Padmanabhan, who now teaches at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York, said there was plenty of dissent when detention policy was being formulated. But he said attorney-client privilege prevents him from describing what positions he advocated at the State Department.

"I can't reveal the specific advice I gave my clients," he said. "There always were, in all of these issues, a good diversity of viewpoints and a robust discussion. Ultimately, decisions had to be taken."

Mirroring comments made to the AP this month by Lawrence Wilkerson, another former State Department official, Padmanabhan said many of the men brought to Guantanamo were innocent.

"There were a lot of people in the early days who had no business being there that were subsequently sent home," said Padmanabhan, who negotiated repatriations with detainees' home countries.

A total of almost 800 men have been held at the military base in Cuba since the detention center opened in January 2002. The number has boiled down to 240, and there are proportionately fewer innocent men there now, Padmanabhan said, with most having "some connection to al-Qaida or the Taliban."

He says it was misguided for the administration to insist that the detainees were not subject to the Geneva Conventions or U.S. or international law. The Bush administration argued that the detainees wore no uniforms, fought under no nation's flag and violated the rules of war, and therefore deserved no Geneva Conventions protections.

In one of his first official acts, President Barack Obama said the detainees have rights under the Geneva conventions.

Padmanabhan is preparing to give a presentation on Wednesday on Guantanamo at his law school.

The State Department declined to comment on the substance of Padmanabhan's comments. Instead, it noted the Bush administration's repeated statements that it did not torture Guantanamo detainees, and reiterated Obama's no-torture pledge.

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10:30 AM on 03/30/2009
"Gee, I'm sorry that I killed those thousands of people. I panicked. I misjudged. I had really bad advice from my lawyers. But anyway, I'm not responsible. I committed no crime, really... you just have to look at all those dead bodies in just the right way..."

Crime. Is Crime.

"Book 'em, Danno..."
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RLaitres
No wise person will claim to be wise.
02:59 PM on 03/29/2009
It is all too convenient to point at a single person or personalize things. The real Bush failure occured long before he took the office. That was he was not prepared to take on the position, really had no central beliefs of his own, and was therefore all too easily manipulated. He was essentially a classic example of "The Peter Principle" and should be made a case study to illustrate it.
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05:34 PM on 03/29/2009
Baloney.
07:09 PM on 04/18/2009
Your favorite food has nothing to do with this discussion.
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10:31 AM on 03/30/2009
"I Am The Responsible Officer of this Government."

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You're right. "Book 'em, Danno."
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Abraxas79
10:36 AM on 03/29/2009
President Obama continues to protect Bush War criminals, despite almost weekly evidence of new torture and abuse revelations. What is occupying AG holder these days ? Assault Weapons ban. Well done Mr. Obama. Change we can believe in.
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merrylee
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10:12 AM on 03/29/2009
"Panicked" my ass - that would explain why they spied on all of us BEFORE 9/11
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jlab
Looks like it's another snark week.
07:39 AM on 03/29/2009
Torture doesn't "occur".
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05:35 PM on 03/29/2009
Well said !!!!!
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Mover
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07:26 AM on 03/29/2009
I have to question Mr. Padmanabhan’s motives. He is a lawyer (a very young lawyer) who apparently found many friends on the political left and has send some of his own money to the Hilary Clinton presidential campaign (according to huff Post, Google his name). And he is now attacking his employer.

I have yet to see any panic in Bush's demeanor at any time that he had been on camera throughout the 8 years. That includes when he mangled words.

What I did see was calm, measured, reassuring and responsible words and deeds for the entire time, even if I disagreed with some of them. There was only one "open mike" comment that was not 100% respectful of anyone. He had no foul words or descriptions of anyone, even to those who hurled childish names at him and the questioning of his intelligence and motives for the entire period (and still do.).

He did not blame President Clinton for the recession he inherited, the CIA director he inherited, the lame responses to terrorism that went on and he has never said an unkind word about his predecessor. That is what is called "class".

I've seen non of that from Presidents Obama, Clinton or Carter.

Panic? Look at your guys, my friends.
02:28 PM on 03/29/2009
By "Calm" you must mean the use of terms like "Bring it on"?
By "Measured" you are probably refering to the "Mission: Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
By "Reassurring" you probably mean the response to Katrina or maybe to reassurance that Saddam definately had WMD's?
By "Responsible" do you mean doubling the national debt, getting us in to two unwinnable wars or alienating almost every one of our allies in what appeared to be a systematic rejection of diplomacy or negotionation with anyone that did not share his radical view of the world?

I guess what I am saying is.............Worst president ever. My friends.
07:14 PM on 04/18/2009
Did you guys notice that mover ended his silly post with "Look at your guys ..."?

Is he operating under the misconception that Barack Obama is not his President?

"Our guys" have done, in three months, more than "his guys" did in eight years (ignoring all their destruction, of course).
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oberon123
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03:32 PM on 03/29/2009
"I have yet to see any panic in Bush's demeanor at any time". WOW! Are you kidding me? What do you call reading my pet goat for 7 minutes after knowing planes are crashing into american buildings? I guess there is no point in trying to have a logical discussion with dittoheads. Enjoy the weather on your planet, my friend.
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SmolderingRuin
"All governments lie!" I.F. "Izzy" Stone
03:03 AM on 03/29/2009
That wasn't panic. That was planning.
01:03 AM on 03/29/2009
Another thing, I didn't say I found it acceptable to hold innocent people, I said LEGITIMATE suspects. Even then, no I don't think they should be held without proof or a fair trial. I didn't say torture was acceptable.
12:54 AM on 03/29/2009
That's exactly what I meant, was what other methods are available, so if they had just as effective or more effective methods, then they should have used them first.
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RJII
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12:01 AM on 03/29/2009
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Bush legacy. Ta Daa.
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ColoradoCool
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11:30 PM on 03/28/2009
I don' think any of this is startling new information but I just wanted to say it anyway.

I think George Bush is a deeply flawed individual who is and was at the time of 9/11 tortured by doubts about his own competence. He freaked out after 9/11 and instituted heavy-handed policies designed to demonstrate he’s strong and decisive and to cover up for his dread about being found out to be weak, indecisive and incompetent. Going forward, his executive decisions were all about strutting around to cover up for his self doubt and incompetence by stubbornly insisting on "staying the course" after each and every perverted policy decision to try and prove to himself and, hopefully, to others that he actually knew what he was doing in the first place.

I think his description of himself as a "gut player" actually reveals the process he uses to make decisions which is to hear just enough information about an issue to decide on a course of action that is "for George" as opposed to one that is "against George". I think his self doubts and character defects are such that other considerations are overwhelmed by his fears.

No wonder we're in such a mess.
10:48 PM on 03/28/2009
Bush was afraid the country would find out how incompetent he was and he would be responsible for losing control of the government to the Democrats. Incompetent people know they are and will cover it up anyway they can.He was wrong about everything. What he tried to prevent he made worse. Thats what happens when you lie. He is totally responsible for the state of the repuplican party and he knows it, though he will never admit it. His legacy is one of total failure. History will not be kind to him!
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09:17 AM on 03/29/2009
History is being rewritten, even as we type.
07:37 PM on 04/18/2009
I agree that there is an attempt to modify the reality of Bush's tenure as president, but I don't think it will succeed.

Had John McCain been elected, there may have been a chance of a rewrite, but Obama is turning over too many rocks all at once. The cockroaches have nowhere to hide.

History will reflect an eight year decline in United State's world reputation followed by a sudden reversal on January 20, 2009. The great majority of Bush apologists will be dead by the time Obama finishes his second term, so there will be no one around to credit Bush for Obama's achievements.

I'm not worried.
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trying2help
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09:31 PM on 03/28/2009
I think it was due to lack of intelligence- the former president lacked the smarts and sophistication of prev. presidents even ( I hate to say it) Nixon and was elected on charisma and pap. If you have someone like that in power of course they will make mistakes and feel threatened when they are overwhelmed.
Let it be a learning lesson to all of America- use your brains, ask what the person stands for and what their policies would be IF-- and then and only then vote your conscience. To vote from fear just wastes a vote.
And that is what America did. Bush is not only responsible- with Cheney likely mentoring him- but ALL of America- we did this- we allowed this to happen and why?? Out of fear and ignorance.
We had very brave forefathers and good men and women ahead of us. Lets not compromise who we are again.
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Okieborn
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08:51 PM on 03/28/2009
I thought the picture was of Bush, Laying Down Sucking His Thumb !!!!
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TooLooze
Someone should do something about all the problems
08:18 PM on 03/28/2009
This is not something that everyone didn't already know. I hope the lawyers are disbarred and charged with conspiracy for not coming forth immediately.