House, Senate Pass Obama's Budget

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DAVID ESPO and ANDREW TAYLOR | April 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST | AP

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., accompanied by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Md., speaks during a news conference on the House budget resolution for the fiscal 2010 federal budget, Thursday, April 2,2009, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — Acting in quick succession, the House and Senate approved budgets Thursday night drawn to President Barack Obama's specifications and pointing the way toward major legislation later this year on health care, energy and education.

"It's going to take a lot of work to clean up the mess we inherited, and passing this budget is a critical step in the right direction," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said. "Staying true to these priorities will help turn around the economy for the many Americans who are underwater right now."

Republicans in both houses accused Democrats of drafting plans that would hurt the recession-ravaged economy in the long run, rather than help it, and saddle future generations with too much debt.

"The administration's budget simply taxes too much, spends too much and borrows too much at a moment when we can least afford it," said the Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

But a Republican alternative fared poorly in the House, where 38 GOP lawmakers voted against a plan supported by their own leadership. Officials ascribed much of the opposition to a provision that called for eliminating traditional fee-for-service Medicare for individuals who reach age 65 in 2020 or later and replacing it with coverage from private insurance companies.

On a long day and night, the House was first to vote, and approved its version of the budget on a 233-196 roll call that fell largely along party lines. It calls for spending of $3.6 trillion for the budget year that begins Oct. 1, and includes a deficit of $1.2 trillion.

The Senate acted a few hours later, with Vice President Joe Biden presiding. The vote was 55-43 for a slightly different blueprint that calls for spending $3.5 trillion and forecasts a deficit of $1.2 trillion.

Both deficit forecasts are exceedingly high by historical standards. But they would represent an improvement over this year's projected total of $1.8 trillion, swollen by spending and tax cuts designed to rejuvenate the economy as well as steps to bail out the financial industry.

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The day's events capped a busy three months for the Democratic-controlled Congress that took office in January.

Moving with unusual speed, lawmakers have enacted a $787 billion economic stimulus measure, cleared the way for release of $350 billion in financial industry bailout funds, approved an expansion of children's health care and sent Obama legislation setting aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as protected wilderness.

The White House issued a statement hailing the House vote as "another step toward rebuilding our struggling economy."

And while they represented victories for the administration, the budgets merely cleared the way for work later in the year on key presidential priorities _ expansion and overhaul of the nation's health care system, creation of a new energy policy and sweeping changes in education.

Major battles lie ahead, particularly over health care and energy. And while Obama made a series of specific proposals to fund his initiatives, congressional budget-writers avoided taking a position on his recommended curtailing of Medicare spending, for example, or imposing hundreds of billions of dollars in new costs on the nation's polluters.

There was no suspense on either side of the Capitol as lawmakers engaged in an annual budget ritual.

In the House, that meant voting first on doomed alternatives drafted by progressives, the Congressional Black Caucus and a splinter group of conservatives. In the Senate, it meant a day of sifting through nonbinding proposals often meant to score political points.

The House plan called for spending $3.6 trillion in the budget year that begins Oct. 1, according to the Congressional Budget Office, compared with $3.5 trillion for the Senate version and $3.6 trillion for Obama's original plan.

The House plan envisioned a deficit of $1.2 trillion for 2010, falling to a projected $598 billion after five years. The comparable Senate estimates were $1.2 trillion in 2010 and $508 billion in 2014.

Obama's budget would leave a deficit of $749 billion in five years' time, according to congressional estimates _ too high for his Democratic allies.

To reduce the red ink, Democrats pared Obama's proposed spending, ignored his call for another $250 billion in bailout money for the financial industry and assumed that his signature tax cuts of $400 for individuals and $800 for couples would expire in 2011.

The House budget drew opposition from 20 Democrats as well as all 176 Republicans who voted.

In the Senate, only two Democrats voted against the plan, along with all 41 Republicans.

The budget plans do not require Obama's signature, but the House and Senate will have to reconcile the two versions before they can move onto the next phase of the presidential agenda.

"We are not that far apart," said Rep. John Spratt, the South Carolina Democrat who chairs the House Budget Committee.

One difference, seemingly arcane, involved the ground rules to cover work later in the year on health care.

The House budget provides for a "fast-track" procedure that would bar Senate Republicans from attempting to filibuster the legislation Obama wants to remake the nation's health care system. Republicans have warned that the prospects for bipartisanship will all but vanish if majority Democrats attempt to muzzle them.

In a long day of debate in the House, Democratic liberals and Republican conservatives took turns presenting lost-cause alternatives that reflected varying priorities.

The plan advanced by House Republicans, which failed 293-137, would have cut deeply into Obama's recommended spending levels for domestic programs such as education, parks and transportation, while calling for additional tax cuts. Republicans said their alternative would have spent $4.8 trillion less than Obama's budget over 10 years, with significantly lower deficits.

The Medicare proposal would have required anyone currently under 55 to obtain coverage from a private health plan when they turned 65. Their costs would be paid at least in part with government funds. Current Medicare recipients and near-retirees would not have been affected. Supporters said the change would prevent Medicare from going broke.

WASHINGTON — Acting in quick succession, the House and Senate approved budgets Thursday night drawn to President Barack Obama's specifications and pointing the way toward major legislation later...
WASHINGTON — Acting in quick succession, the House and Senate approved budgets Thursday night drawn to President Barack Obama's specifications and pointing the way toward major legislation later...
 
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The Two Democratic senotors who voted against this has to be publicly rediculed,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 04/06/2009
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"Republicans in both houses accused Democrats of.... "

uhhh.... who give a rip snort?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 04/04/2009
- booboo111 I'm a Fan of booboo111 76 fans permalink
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I'm glad not one republican voted for the budget. Now we don't have to spend time trying to coddle them. Just steamroll all legislation the way they did for eight years. You tried Barack, and I give you credit for that. Now let's see some action!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 04/03/2009
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AMEN...AND, AMEN AGAIN! lol

Leave it to us to try to be inclusive. Well, all I can say is "bump that"! In case you don't know what that means,"rep­ulicant's, eat shi^t! lol It finally feels so good to be in charge again, doesn't it? I honestly can say that our president did keep his promise and tried ways inside and out to work with them..."no!" Like some 2yr. old child! If they were in the majority as we are now...do you think that they could give a fat rat's a$$ what we thought or said? Nope..as they've just gotten off that ride two years ago and their heads are in a collective spin and can't figure out what to do and which to go! Man, that's so much fun to watch even though we're in so much trouble. We're going to turn this corner though...we know that...not a matter of if..just a matter of when.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 04/05/2009
- booboo111 I'm a Fan of booboo111 76 fans permalink
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And this is a surprise...why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 04/03/2009
- thereWego I'm a Fan of thereWego 2 fans permalink

Do you people not understand what is happening? Our country is in the midst of being socialized. I am not a socialist. I don't want the gov't telling my boss how much money he can make. I don't want to have the gov't backing my car warranty. I don't want the gov't telling me what kind of car I can drive.... WE TELL THE GOV'T WHAT THEY MAY AND MAY NOT DO!!!!! Damn you people irritate me. Our country is going to hell in a hand basket at the hands of a socialist, liberal, muslim amd you people refuse to see what is going on! I for one am stockpiling my guns and ammo. When the revolution comes I'll be ready, will you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 04/03/2009
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Take your guns and ammo up into a cave somewhere and stay away from my society...I plan to work for healthy communities, strong and smart children, locally grown organic foods, sustainable businesses that are doing well BY doing right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 04/03/2009
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If Obama was a Muslim he wouldn't eat Spam, as he has been seen to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 04/03/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

For Bama, wasn't it the Vegan Version of Spam? Inquiring Minds want to Know!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 04/03/2009
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There is some unused real estate outside of Waco Texas,
Move down there and build a bunker and hunker down.

Myself,

In 2000, I was in a slim minority of the people who voted for Democratic control of the federal government.
In 2008, I was in a large minority of the people who voted for Democratic control of the federal government.

Signed,
A Socialist, Liberal, Muslim, ProChoice, Communist, Atheist, Martian, UnPatriotic and Whatever else you outvoted Whiners choose to label me as.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 04/03/2009
- DaveyDavey I'm a Fan of DaveyDavey 99 fans permalink
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You have the means to put yourself out of your misery, so why don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/03/2009
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

Do you object to Social Security and Medicare?
Do you object to the national highway system started by Eisenhower?
Do you object to Hoover Dam and Lake Mead?
If you are upset by those things you probably do not cotton to a social democracy.

The opposite would be anarchy or fascism. Do you prefer that?

Remember that it was a lack of government regulation that led to the current crisis. It takes strong
measures to lead us out of the mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 04/03/2009
- miketothad I'm a Fan of miketothad 18 fans permalink
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When I listen to the logic coming from Republicans, some of them my friends, it seems they are sold on the brand, as they're in some kind of exclusive Country Club. Making reference to Dems as a "welfare" class, sounding as if they largley consist of people making more than 250K, and spouting the term "Socialism" as if they need to arm themselves against marauding hoardes of lower and middle income people coming to steal from them. Our taxes are made to help everyone. As long as my gov't is run with effiiciency, I'll never complain about taxes, when they're spent on the greater good, and not for war for profit or breaks for oil, drug and insurance companies who've been given license to cheat us more over the last 8 years. I am a Christian and a Democrat because it makes SENSE. Regulation serves a PURPOSE. The fact that the Republican "Stimulus Plan" gives even MORE tax cuts for the rich makes NO SENSE! I'm part of the shrinking middle class now, and as long as the Republican agenda remains in the pocket of big business, I'll put my country first and vote Democrat and convince as many as I can to do the same.
I've given up on wondering what the hell is up with the Republican Party- a party that doesn't fiscally give a damn about its constituents. God bless 'em.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 04/03/2009
- dhinds I'm a Fan of dhinds 25 fans permalink

Thanks for making good sense.

The Republican Party will never regain the Executive Branch.

Never Again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 AM on 04/06/2009
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 29 fans permalink

What about the GOP's April Fool's Day budget?

More tax cuts for the rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 04/03/2009
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Ask BoSox, he still hasn't proved he isn't an al Queda sleeper agent.
Why else would he be at home all day without any visible means of support?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 04/03/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

Well, some one realized, finally, that it was April Fools!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 04/03/2009
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..........and spending cuts for everyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 04/03/2009
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The Republican'ts would never vote for something that supports the middle class and strengthens the country. The extremely wealthy (a.k.a. beneficiaries of all Republican't policy) are only powerful when the middle class is weak and the country is in chaos. They're so transparent and, thankfully, completely out of touch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/03/2009
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Let's get something straight. The Congress is made up of representatives who are a result of a DEMOCRATIC election. America CHOSE to have more democrats than Republicans in the Congress due to their mismanagement of our Nation for 12 years. So WHO CARES if there weren't any Republican votes? We don't elect people to worry about the MINORITY. We elect people to RUN WITH the AGENDA they RAN ON! DUH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 04/03/2009
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Republicans were irrelevant before and are now irrelevant again. Just make sure it stays that way by voting against right wing nuts and blue dog Dems in the next election. Just say "NO" to the right wing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/03/2009
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But don't you know the republicans are all for majority rules?

"We are using the rules of the Senate here," Gregg said in 2005 as he fought off Democratic complaints that reconciliation was wrongly being employed to block filibusters against opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling. "Is there something wrong with majority rules? I don't think so."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008942095_reconcile29.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 04/03/2009

In Idaho we finally elected a democrat to the House. He's a blue-dog, alright; but he's the only prospect we have of having a dem. I'm amazed he even won. His concession is that he has to govern like a blue-dog. I'd rather be in the majority and have some blue-dogs than be in the minority and be represented by people who won't get elected given the realities of the district they're running in. Our Idaho blue-dog, Walt Minnick, is SOOOOOO much better than that a-hole Bill Sali that he unseated. Being a progressive, I'd rather have progress than absolute conformity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 04/03/2009
- fiorastar I'm a Fan of fiorastar 62 fans permalink
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You're right on that one...realpolitik sometimes is what is needed. Gradually, gradually, you can begin to move more towards a better Democrat but at least you got your foot in the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 04/03/2009

Poor, poor rethugs. Irrelevant, stu*pid and dum*ber than straw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/03/2009

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Friday ridiculed the G-20 summit's attempts to deal with the global financial meltdown, saying that capitalism is in crisis and must end.

Do you drones want this???????????????

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Bosox doesn't want us to save capitalism because dictators might call us names....hahahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 04/03/2009
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Republicans were the ones b*tching the loudest about "earmarks," yet, almost all of them quietly slipped in their own "earmarks" into the current budget! If Republicans wish to slash federal spending, then why not show by example and cut out most or all of their own pet projects. Or are they afraid not to "bring home the bacon?" I would suppose that (their) earmarks are *good* while Democrat earmarks are *bad.*

That's like two small children arguing: "All your stuff is junk!" (other sibling:) "No, all YOUR stuff is junk!" Well I'm not hearing the Democrats criticize Republican projects, so who's right and who's wrong here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 04/03/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

Pox on both their Houses. With the exception of a few individual Senators and Representatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/03/2009

they can start my slashing their staff....which is clearly not needed at the same level post-beat down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 04/03/2009

Actually they slipped in their earmarks, then voted against the budget, knowing it would pass. That is called Republican courage. I would recomend silver stars for their courageous stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 04/03/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

The $400 Billion vote (The one with all the earmarks) you are reffering to was completed last year under the Democratic Congress and was purposefully held over tell this year so Bush couldn't Veto it.. This bill only funds the Gov. through September 31st, 2009

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 04/03/2009
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You're right, Obama did not cause the deficit but he certainly doesn't mind making it much worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/03/2009
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look at this way. If we don't spend, every thing will become stagnant and will not fix itself. This spending hopefully will spur the private sector back into investing and spending so we all win. Earmarks or not, someone needs to spend and get the economy moving again. Stagnation left unattended can only lead to worsen conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/03/2009
- Avanti2 I'm a Fan of Avanti2 6 fans permalink

So people are to increase their debt load? Anyone with a pulse that is concerned about their future should be reducing their personal debt if they have enough cash flow to do so.

All the "Crisis" speeches and the "Worst Recession Since the Depression" and the hurry up scare language to pass bills that even supporters have not read, have inserted a fear level in the population that is beyond reality.

I think it will be quite a while before Main Street feels comfortable enough to make big purchases like buying a new car. I know I'm scared and have decided my 9 year old Buick, which I wanted to replace, will be fine tell at least 2011 or maybe 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 04/03/2009
- Myshkin57 I'm a Fan of Myshkin57 16 fans permalink

You might dispute the merits of particular parts of the spending, but spending is necessary to get out of this economic situation. If we don't spend, we'll get into a bigger debt due to shrinking tax revenues, and we'll have nothing to show for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 04/03/2009
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Don't let the facts and evidence get in your way. A basic economic principle is that one must spend money to make money. No one can run a business or a government without infusing it with capital. If the past several weeks are any indicator, then we are on the road to significant improvement and a turn around by the end of the year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/03/2009
- power1 I'm a Fan of power1 4 fans permalink

Why does anyone care about that fact that Republicans didn't vote for this Budget? It's irrelevant. Are you going tell me if the shoe was on the other foot that Democrats would vote for a Republican Budget?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 04/03/2009

More significantly, the Senate leadership lost some of its own Democratic members on this. This says that not only was the budget unacceptable to conservatives, but also to moderates in their own party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/03/2009
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Years Republican majority used budget reconciliation to avoid filibuster
1980,
1981, 1982, 1983,
1985, 1986, 1987,
1989, 1990,
1993, 1995, 1996,
1997, 1999, 2000,
2001, 2003, 2005

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/03/2009
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Yup,

They, some Repubs, tried to eliminate the filibuster from congressional procedure in 2005 as I recall. The following from Wikipedia:

In 2005, a group of Republican senators led by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), responding to the Democrats' threat to filibuster some judicial nominees of President George W. Bush to prevent a vote on the nominations, floated the idea of having Vice President Dick Cheney, as President of the Senate, rule from the chair that a filibuster on judicial nominees was inconsistent with the constitutional grant of power to the president to name judges with the advice and consent of the Senate (interpreting "consent of the Senate" to mean "consent of a simple majority of Senators," not "consent under the Senate rules").[22] Senator Trent Lott, the junior Republican senator from Mississippi, had named the plan the "nuclear option." Republican leaders preferred to use the term "constitutional option", although opponents and some supporters of the plan continued to use "nuclear option".

This procedure was in use since 1841, when the Whig party existed.
Maybe, when the GOP reconstitutes under the moniker "WOP" they will be more successful, as such.
Whigged Out Pachyderms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 04/03/2009

It seems that they did, over the course of the last 8 years or so. Dems realize that the govt must have a budget b/c if we don't spend money we rot. They had to plug their nose first, but they understand that governing is about governing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 04/03/2009
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