Jiverly Voong, NY Gunman, Angry Over Poor English Skills, Job Loss

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MICHAEL RUBINKAM | April 4, 2009 11:30 PM EST | AP

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This photo released Saturday, April 4, 2009, by the Binghamton Police Department shows Jiverly Wong, the gunman who killed 13 people in a rampage at an immigrant community center. The gunman who killed 13 people in a rampage at an immigrant community center and then committed suicide was wearing body armor, indicating he was prepared to battle with law enforcers, the Binghamton police chief said Saturday. (AP Photo/Binghamton Police Department)

BINGHAMTON, N.Y. — Jiverly Wong was upset over losing his job at a vacuum plant, didn't like people picking on him for his limited English and once angrily told a co-worker, "America sucks."

It remains unclear exactly why the Vietnamese immigrant strapped on a bulletproof vest, barged in on a citizenship class and killed 13 people and himself, but the Binghamton police chief says he knows one thing for sure: "He must have been a coward."

Jiverly Wong had apparently been preparing for a gun battle with police but changed course and decided to turn the gun on himself when he heard sirens approaching, Chief Joseph Zikuski said Saturday.

"He had a lot of ammunition on him, so thank God before more lives were lost, he decided to do that," the chief said.

Police and Wong's acquaintances portrayed him as an angry, troubled 41-year-old man who struggled with drugs and job loss and perhaps blamed his adopted country for his troubles. His rampage "was not a surprise" to those who knew him, Zikuski said.

"He felt degraded because people were apparently making fun of his poor English speaking," the chief said.

Wong, who used the alias Jiverly Voong, believed people close to him were making fun of him for his poor English language skills, the chief said.

Until last month, he had been taking classes at the American Civic Association, which teaches English to immigrants and helps them prepare for citizenship tests.

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Then, on Friday, he parked his car against the back door of the association, burst through the front doors and shot two receptionists, killing one, before moving on to a classroom where he claimed 12 more victims, police said.

The police chief said that most of the dead had multiple gunshot wounds. Wong used two handguns _ a 9 mm and a .45-caliber _ for which he had obtained a permit more than a decade ago.

The receptionist who survived, 61-year-old Shirley DeLucia, played dead, then called 911 despite her injuries and stayed on the line while the gunman remained in the building.

"She's a hero in her own right," he said.

Police initially said it took 90 minutes to rescue her. On Saturday, Zikuski said it was actually 39 minutes, and he said the police response followed all proper procedures.

"The police did the right thing," he said.

DeLucia remained in critical condition Saturday. The chief said she and three other hospitalized victims were all expected to survive, and that police were in no hurry to question her.

"We're giving her a break. There's no reason to put her through that," he said.

Binghamton police are withholding the names of victims until they have notified relatives and can release all the names at once. Each autopsy takes two to four hours, and authorities are struggling to track down families around the globe.

Wong's tactics _ including the body armor and copious ammunition _ fit him into a category of killers called "pseudo-commandos," said Park Dietz, a criminologist and forensic psychiatrist at UCLA who analyzed the Columbine High School shootings in Colorado in 1999.

Barricading the back doors to trap his prey "was his way of ensuring that he could maximize his kill rate," Dietz said. "This was all about anger, paranoia, and desperation."

Wong was born in Vietnam to an ethnically Chinese family. He moved to the States in the early 1990s and soon afterward became a citizen, friends and relatives said. He worked at IBM for a time, friend Hue Huynh said, but decided to move to California.

There, he worked for seven years at a caterer called Kikka Sushi, eventually making $9 an hour, said Paulus Lukas, the company's human resources manager.

"He was really good at doing his job _ we respected him for that," Lukas told the Los Angeles Times. "He's never late, he's always punctual. And when he finishes his job, he goes home. He doesn't complain, he doesn't argue with people. He gets along."

But one day he simply didn't show up for work, Lukas told the Times. Early last year, he called asking the company to send his tax forms to a New York state address.

Back in New York, he worked at the Shop-Vac plant in Binghamton. Former co-worker Kevin Greene told the Daily News of New York that Wong once said, in answer to whether he liked the New York Yankees, "No, I don't like that team. I don't like America. America sucks."

Zikuski said Wong was fired from that job, where he assembled vacuum cleaners. That's apparently when things really started to go downhill.

"People who end up doing this particular thing have an accumulation of stressers in their lives, and ultimately there is the one that broke the camel's back," Dietz said. "Job loss is one of the big ones, and those stressers are happening more often this year."

Huynh, the 56-year-old proprietor of an Asian grocery store in Binghamton frequented by the gunman's sister, ran into Wong at the gym recently and noted that he was complaining about how he couldn't find work.

His unemployment benefits were only $200 a week, and he lamented his bad luck, she said.

"He's upset he don't have a job here. He come back and want to work," Huynh said. Her husband tried to cheer him up by saying that he was still young and had plenty of time to find work.

Wong's story is similar to how friends were describing the recent trials of a man accused of opening fire on Pittsburgh police officers during a domestic dispute Saturday, killing three of them. They said he had recently been upset about losing his job; police say that, like Wong, he was wearing a bulletproof vest.

A woman reached at the home who identified herself as Wong's sister told The Associated Press late Friday she did not believe he was the gunman. "I think somebody involved, not him," she said.

That's not an unusual response, Dietz said.

"What will be revealed if the investigation goes deep enough is that many people in a shooter's world knew that he was angry, mad, unreasonable, scary at times, and recently some of them came to learn that he was threatening and armed," said Dietz, who is not involved in the Binghamton investigation.

"They've known that for a long time, but none of them did what they should have done with that information."

State police got tips suggesting that Wong may have been planning a bank robbery in 1999, possibly to support a crack-cocaine addiction, Zikuski said. But the robbery never happened, and Zikuski had no other information.

Wong's father was well-known in the Binghamton area through his work years ago at the now-defunct World Relief Organization, helping recent immigrants find a doctor and obtain food stamps.

"Everyone, when they come to America, he's the one who helps," said Ty Tran, who came to the United States in 1990.

Mark Preston, 48, a neighbor of the gunman in Johnson City, outside Binghamton, said people in the family keep to themselves but often tended the bushes in their yard.

"They grow great vegetables and roses," he said.

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Associated Press writers John Wawrow in Buffalo, N.Y., and John Kekis in Binghamton contributed to this report.

Filed by Nick Sabloff

BINGHAMTON, N.Y. — Jiverly Wong was upset over losing his job at a vacuum plant, didn't like people picking on him for his limited English and once angrily told a co-worker, "America sucks." It...
BINGHAMTON, N.Y. — Jiverly Wong was upset over losing his job at a vacuum plant, didn't like people picking on him for his limited English and once angrily told a co-worker, "America sucks." It...
 
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- victorsays I'm a Fan of victorsays 6 fans permalink

I don't doubt that people were making fun of him because of his poor English skills. Immigrants have a really hard time in America. Americans are only pro-white immigrant, anyone like Mexican or Asian would get the usual "go back to where you came from".

The guy was reached a boiling point. He was obviously nuts, because he killed the same people that were like him and were there to help people like him.

When I was growing up, people made fun of my eyes and kids were saying "ching, chong, ching, chong". Even white Trash Mily Cyrus is doing Chinky eyes, and Rosie O is doing the "ching, chong, ching, chong" bit.

This is American culture: stereotypes and racism is part of that culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/05/2009
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"The Binghamton police chief says he knows one thing for sure: "He must have been a coward."

See now, if I knew this "for sure", I would say "He *was* a coward."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 04/05/2009
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he seems to have learned well from the american mindset.
lives other than your own are not valuable.
how else can we explain the wars in iraq and afghanistan? Why is the ability to hunt animals and shoot cans worth more than the safety of those in the inner cities? Why do we, even to this day, use drones to blow up civilian homes in pakistan? Why do we export guns to africa and an latin america?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 04/04/2009
- BBC9nch I'm a Fan of BBC9nch 11 fans permalink
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I don't understand how you can make an anti american comment like this and it was approved yet my defense of America response to it was deleted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 04/05/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

600,000 jobs lost every month. 600,000 families facing desperation. Obama gives trillions to his rich buddies and nothing for jobs programs. Party hardy, Emperor Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/04/2009

Your comments should be directed to our ex-president! Obama isn't the reason so many have lost their jobs! But you're part of the problem! Scared that a black man is in charge? Thought so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 04/04/2009
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your point was good enough with out playing the race card. ad hominems are republican fare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 04/04/2009
- Kenji I'm a Fan of Kenji 17 fans permalink
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Wow, you are really on top of the news, aren't you?
Hope you had a pleasant eight-year slumber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 04/18/2009

Hold on to your horses folks, there is going to be a lot more of these incidents due to stress and a lack of mental health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 04/04/2009
- kasinca I'm a Fan of kasinca 160 fans permalink
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Probably frustrated with Lou Dobbs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 04/04/2009
- Kenji I'm a Fan of Kenji 17 fans permalink
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The only American he completely understood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 04/18/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Vietnamese Americans are for the most part Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 04/04/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 253 fans permalink

Congratulations! You get the race-bashing non-sequitur award of the day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 04/04/2009
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Isn't it great that we've reached a point where just simply calling someone a Republican is an insult?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 04/04/2009
- Fernando I'm a Fan of Fernando 27 fans permalink
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That just stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 04/04/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

This was a rather pathetic attempt to bait others. The Associated Press reported that Wong belonged to "an ethnically Chinese family" while the Los Angeles Times stated that "he spoke neither English nor Vietnamese well." Besides, unless you live under a rock, you should know that Wong is actually a Chinese surname. In other words, he was Chinese. You should try harder next time...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 04/08/2009
- scrutiny1 I'm a Fan of scrutiny1 4 fans permalink

"...the police chief says he knows one thing for sure: "He must have been a coward."

Huh? Distraught maybe, but a coward?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 04/04/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 24 fans permalink
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It's today's code word for "someone not in the official power structure planned and executed a notable military victory".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 04/04/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 253 fans permalink

After murdering all those people, killing himself instead of facing the cops.

An earlier report said that the police waited an HOUR before going inside. While people bled to death, I expect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 04/04/2009
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That'll show him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 04/04/2009
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oh, please ... yes, coward. gee, let's barricade the door so no one escapes, let me come in with full body armor, let me shoot innocent people trying to make a better life for themselves, but alsolet me shoot myself when it looks like i might actually have to battle a worthy "opponent," the police officers. COWARD!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 04/05/2009
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Most people would just STUDY English and GET another job.

However, in America it is easier just to blast your way out of your own life while taking innocents along with you.

Never was there a stronger need for gun control.

You morons with your guns and the random acts of violence are making life impossible!

There is only one logical solution:

BAN ALL GUNS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 04/04/2009
- Car84 I'm a Fan of Car84 6 fans permalink

Undebatable: A gun ban would not work. It didn't work in Washington, DC. No matter how broad it would be, there would be guns. And they would be in the hands of the wrong people.

A better solution is to respond to these events this way.

1) Don't even try to "understand" the motives. We shouldn't care why these people do what they do, especially if they're dead.

2) Judge the person. None of this "Bad action done by someone." Instead it's "Bad person did something horrible." Someone who does this should be branded as a loser.

3) This branding should be done first and foremost by the immediate family and friends. Shame is an undervalued positive influence on human behavior. It has become all too rare in our society.

4) Publish the shooter's picture and not his name. People like this should be as easily forgotten as possible. If the wasted soul's name isn't widley known, there would be fewer kooks glomming onto and idolizing him.

5) Downplay that guns were involved. Mass murderers give guns and lawful gun owners an undeserved bad name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 04/04/2009
- Bruupo I'm a Fan of Bruupo 13 fans permalink

"5) Downplay that guns were involved. Mass murderers give guns and lawful gun owners an undeserved bad name."

Yeah, sure, no matter how many times it happens, it's still "undeservered". And oh, I'd love to read the copy on that story...

"The assailant walked into the place and began killing people...somehow"

You know, the ultimate reason they couldn't do this is because if they don't mention that guns were used, religious wingnuts will assume it was witchcraft or demons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/04/2009

"3) This branding should be done first and foremost by the immediate family and friends. Shame is an undervalued positive influence on human behavior. It has become all too rare in our society. "

Shame is what cause this tragedy in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 04/04/2009

No matter what variables we have in these cases, young, males, frustrated over the loss of a job or a wife or girlfriend, mentally unstable, paranoid, we always have one constant: guns.

It is real hard to get close enough to kill a bunch of people with a knife, fireplace poker, or stick of dynamite. Guns give these guys the space and room to kill with little worry about someone physically countering them. Sure it would be great if a sensible person in each case carried a handgun, but really, in every workplace, school and job. That is not realistic.

What is the solution, maybe there isn't one. Except better mental health care, but we can't just haul people off before they act up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 04/04/2009

Car84 gives some of the worst suggestions I've ever heard.
1) Motives are important, if we can reduce reasons why people do these things, we can reduce people doing these things.
2) Most people have the potential to do bad actions, this "bad person" nonsense makes you sound like you're disciplining a Labrador. Even "good" people do "bad" things - look at the Milgram experiments for a quick, well-known example. Everyone has that capacity, it's just a matter of the circumstances and influences. That doesn't excuse it, they should also have the ability to reason and control themselves and seek help, but this "good/bad people" talk is childish.
3) Yeah, 'cause I bet none of these people dealt with shame prior to committing mass murder... oh wait, seems like all of them did. Ridiculing and bullying people to shame them into not going postal will have the opposite effect.
4) Very few of these shooters are looking for fame, and very few previously idolized some other vicious shooter. These murders are a peculiar blend of personal and faceless, and not knowing a previous shooter's name isn't going to prevent them from knowing how or being able to kill people.
5) Yeah, everyone should be under the impression that guns never fire except at pheasants and burglars. That way, when they get caught in the sights, they get that nice sense of novelty.

No seriously, I think you're pranking us with this whole post, this can't be serious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 04/20/2009
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Hmm. We banned all drugs and I can go about twenty different places off the top of my head and get them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/04/2009
- LVN I'm a Fan of LVN permalink

"They've known that for a long time, but none of them did what they should have done with that information."

What exactly could have the people around them done?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/04/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 253 fans permalink

True. If he had a license for the d@mned gun, there's nothing the cops could have done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 04/04/2009
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sometimes sons are spoiled and brought up to think they are special

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 04/04/2009

Is that supposed to be a joke?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 04/04/2009
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"People who end up doing this particular thing have an accumulation of stressers in their lives,"
No, actually, it's because anyone can get guns any time and kill you for no reason. That's not a reason for doing what he did. Nobody in the USA cares about mass murders happening every week or so, because they care more about their materialistic guns than life itself. Enjoy your country. Some countries are just as good only better, get over yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/04/2009
- SILVANUS I'm a Fan of SILVANUS 44 fans permalink
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Thank you Steven Seagal, Stallone and, God forbid, "lesser talents" (if one can imagine them) who have provided so much inspiration for no-mind killers to do this kind of carnage.

Go ahead, keeping making fun of art films.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 04/04/2009
- Emerald1943 I'm a Fan of Emerald1943 276 fans permalink
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This gets us back to the "chicken and the egg". Does the movie industry simply mirror what's happening in the society, or does it cause the problem by elevating violence? While both can be argued, I personally believe that the latter is more the cause. We see horrific violence on TV and in theaters and there is much evidence to show that this constant stream of carnage influences people, particularly children and young adults, in a negative way. We become desensitized to it and the value of human life suffers as a result!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 04/04/2009
- Kaviraj I'm a Fan of Kaviraj 42 fans permalink
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You mean the governator and the muscles from Brussels and so on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 04/05/2009

Man and gun don't mix and should be far apart from each other as possible; throw in anger in the mix and you have a “dynamite”.

But what make [modern] Americans think they still live in primitive America of yore. Lets hope that the USA never have another civil war, because with the numbers of guns in circulation, it would be mayhem and one of the world's longest civil wars.

The framers of the America constitution wrote the constitution in the context of their era: they couldn't be more intelligent than what they were. Today, the America people live in a different era and challenges-- one that the writers of the constitution would probably not recognize. It is time to put an end to the nonsensical claim of right to own guns!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 04/04/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 24 fans permalink
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We've been in the midst of one for decades now, top vs. middle. It just hasn't gone hot -- yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 04/04/2009

I disagree with you.
First I don't, believe that the Fore fathers even cared about, WHOM, had the RIGHTS, only that they had rights!!!.
Guns were the most powerful way of dissent or I should say fire power!!! in the world.
Guns, are a weapon of choice, to kill in this country because we treat them this way.
If we were in a third world country, most people couldn't afford guns, so they would gang up on you using tradition!!! to kill you, no matter how barbaric, we see it.,until they could afford as a group to purchase guns.
The pistol or rifle, for lesser men and women, are the weapon of choice to solve problems.
The gun is the tool of choice!!!, because of it's effectiveness, of ending most conflicts.
The brain is the ultimate , tool of choice, but people don't RESPECT this TRUE POWER!!!. There fore, the gun replaces this weakness, in lesser men and women!!!
If the Constitution was constructed TODAY!!!, I wonder what it would say? But if I were a betting man, I believe the right to bare arms would still be there!!.
If i need a gun to protect my family and you said i couldn't do so because some IDIOT, choose to kill, people using a gun, i would be more mad at you, them the nut who shot up the poor people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 04/04/2009

I don't think the forefathers intended to be naively idealist or as you put it, “only that they [i.e., Americans] had rights!!!”, otherwise they would have written the whole constitution in less that a page – by simply declaring that Americans have [infinite] rights.

But in a nutshell, you underlining argument is that gun replaces man's inadequacies. I agree with you, but isn't the evolution and civilization of man about man's will to overcoming his inadequacies and primitive instincts and replace them with something much more refined?

The argument that you need a gun to protect your family will only be valid if you and your family are together 24/7 and 356days. Does this protection cover the rest of the family when they are “out in the open”, that is to say, at school, doing the shopping, the missus at the hairdresser etc? I would imagine not!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 AM on 04/05/2009
- Emerald1943 I'm a Fan of Emerald1943 276 fans permalink
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So sad! All these people died for what? That was yesterday.....and today, three policemen in Pittsburgh were killed in a shoot-out from a "domestic dispute"!

All this senseless killing...so sad! How do we stop it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/04/2009
- s miller08 I'm a Fan of s miller08 8 fans permalink

I was asking the same question today. I don't know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 04/04/2009
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