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Men's Underwear Sales, Greenspan's Economic Metric, Reveal Crisis

First Posted: 5/9/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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With reporting by Arthur Delaney

As chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan was known for using quirky, proletariat metrics to judge the temperature of the economy. The most famous of these, as recounted by NPR's Robert Krulwich in January 2008, were the sales of men's underwear. If the economic scales dipped even the slightest, Greenspan reasoned, it was as sure a sign as any that people were truly feeling the pinch.

"If you look at sales of male underpants it's just pretty much a flat line, it hardly ever changes," Krulwich recounted after the publishing of Greenspan's book, "The Age Of Turbulence." "But on those few occasions where it dips that means that men are so pinched that they are deciding not to replace underpants. And [Greenspan] said 'that is almost always a prescient, forward impression that here comes trouble.'"

Well, here comes trouble.

A revised survey by the leading global research company, Mintel, shows relatively large drops in the sales of men's underwear in the United States. The study, to be released April 9, projects a 2.3 percent drop in sales of all men's underwear products in 2009. Underscoring just how quickly the market has gone south, in November 2008, Mintel had forecast sales to grow by 2.6 percent in 2009. A serious downturn led to a serious revision.

Officials in the business say a variety of factors are to blame, including an influx of private label products from China. But the truth is, the psychology of the recession plays the biggest role.

"Men's basic apparel products probably have the least fluctuating sales of all [apparel products]," Matt Hall, a spokesman for Hanesbrands Inc. said in a brief interview. "But recessions impact all categories and men's underwear sales are no different... Men's underwear is a replenishment item. If you see a dip in the market it is because of the economy. But over a longer-term period it will even out. They tend to be later going into the recession and earlier coming back... Men certainly aren't wearing underwear less frequently than before."

Let's hope not.

Of course, extending the life of a pair of boxers or briefs is different than simply abandoning the undergarment all together. And here is where Greenspan's economic divination comes into play.

"[Greenspan] once told me that if you think about all the garments in the household, the garment that is most private is the male underpant, because nobody sees it except people in the locker room, but who cares," Krulwich told NPR. "Your children need clothes, your wife needs clothes that have to change, your children grow, you need clothes on the outside. But the last purchase that you don't have to make is underpants.... [men wear them until they are in] total tatters."

And yet, adjustments in the men's underwear market do show some silver linings -- room for growth, one might say. For starters, the sale of briefs (as opposed to boxers) is forecasted by Mintel to rise this year by 0.6 percent, though fall back down in 2010.

Moreover, some higher-end underwear retailers have seen their business improve even in the current slump.

"Our sales have been up this year and we are not sure exactly why. With all the bad news we were expecting sales to fall and they haven't, so we are quite pleased" said Robert Clark, of Skiviez, Inc, the self-proclaimed "men's underwear authority."

And yet, when asked why that might be the case, Clark's reply only further indicated how under duress the American consumer truly is. "My theory is that people still want to treat themselves to a luxury item," he said. "$150 or $170 jeans were pretty popular. But my theory is that sales on those jeans have fallen. People who want a luxury item are now finding it cheaper to simply buy a $20 dollar pair of deigned underwear instead."

FROM MINTEL'S REPORT

ALL UNDERWEAR


2007 retail sales: $4.73 billion (up 3.7 percent from year before)
2008 retail sales: $4.87 billion (up 2.9 percent from the prior year).
2009 forecast: $4.76 billion (down 2.3 percent)

BRIEFS
2007 sales: $1.21 billion (down 3.6 percent)
2008 estimated: $1.17 billion (down 3.0 percent)
2009 forecast: $1.18 billion (up 0.6 percent)
2010 forecast: $1.17 billion (down 1.0 percent)

BOXERS
2007 sales $1.16 billion (up 9.7 percent)
2008 estimates: $1.25 billion (up 7.1 percent)
2009 forecast $1.09 billion (down 3.5 percent)

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With reporting by Arthur Delaney As chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan was known for using quirky, proletariat metrics to judge the temperature of the economy. The most famous of these, ...
With reporting by Arthur Delaney As chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan was known for using quirky, proletariat metrics to judge the temperature of the economy. The most famous of these, ...
 
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05:57 PM on 04/11/2009
strange. right around new years I massively splurged on underwear, partly because they were on sale nicely designed DKs. and last month I still bought some pretty well priced ultra colored boxers at Marc Jacobs. As an artist I not often shopping, but there is something reassuring about feeling comfortabl­e and clean while riding a downturn, plus compliment­s in the locker room are always a spirit lifter.
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05:07 PM on 04/11/2009
That's great shows you that all of the education and knowledge in the world doesn't mean anything. He uses that sale of mens underwear as his economic indicator. Awesome



Monkeysuit
http://ran­dompolitic­althoughts­andnews.bl­ogspot.com­/
02:52 PM on 04/11/2009
I'd rate the model 7/10 :3 only because it looks like he stuffed his boxers
12:29 PM on 04/11/2009
Actually, there seems to be something to these types of studies. The lipstick indicator (women buy more lipstick during troubled economic times: http://pla­netcheapsk­ate.com/in­dex.php/es­teem-esent­ials/) has been a reliable indicator of downturns since the 40s, and was first noticed by the London Times during the Battle of Britain.

So, women of North America, have you been inclined to splurge a bit on a new lipstick lately (or men, for that matter)?
11:11 AM on 04/11/2009
There's a fatal flaw in this projection­. It doesn't take into account the fact that a disproport­ionate segment of the male population is comprised of seniors who recently switched from tighty whities to diapers, including Greenspan himself. I'm surprised he failed to take this into account.
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RobChattaTN
there's no such thing as objectivity
10:52 AM on 04/11/2009
some of us " go commando " on a regular basis,
so i guess we skew the figures
and probably damage the economy...­. oh well.

;)
09:48 AM on 04/11/2009
I'm stuggling with economic problems like everyone else and I've had to make some important decisions and cut back. In order to keep my cable tv and broadband, I've stopped wearing underwear and socks and only wash my cloths when people start making comments.
12:40 AM on 04/13/2009
Sounds familiar. You in college?
09:59 PM on 04/10/2009
Bill Clinton got us into this economic mess. It takes 10-15 years for economic policy to sift through.
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RobChattaTN
there's no such thing as objectivity
10:52 AM on 04/11/2009
u r 2 funny!

no: ridiculous­!
firelord5000
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11:07 AM on 04/11/2009
Ya leaving with surplus, outa wars, country with its best economic condition every is truly a mess, zzzz. you guys will keep losing till you understand just how much Dubbya ruined this country.
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politicky
just follow the $$$
08:51 PM on 04/10/2009
Yeah, that Greenspan dude, an effing genius if I ever saw one....
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granitestater
07:32 PM on 04/10/2009
That has got to be one of the classic all time worst photograph­s ever taken.
05:44 AM on 04/11/2009
Please stop with the homophobic commentary­. Are you jealous that you don't look like that, or worried that the pic might cause some arousal? Or are you afraid that someone will see you coming to this story about men's underwear (why are you here, by the way) and get the 'wrong' impression about you?
12:44 AM on 04/13/2009
I'm jealous
11:28 AM on 04/11/2009
No. It's hot.
02:48 PM on 04/10/2009
FinallyI get to express my observatio­ns on a public forum rather than to my wife, grown kids, my parents, aunts, uncles etc.... I DON'T NEED UNDERWEAR (MENS) MODELED FOR ME! I have no beef about women's underwear being modeled. But our mens underwear never changes...­boxers or briefs they don't change.

To model men's underwear is ridiculous and as far as an economic indicator.­..it's probably a good one in that instead of washing them we would rather toss them and now we just wear them until they are able to walk to the nearest washing machine to collapse in exhaustion .
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Jond0
no expectations no surrender
10:20 PM on 04/10/2009
The men's underwear model is for the WOMEN who buy the clothes for their men. Lots of women do the shopping for their guy. It's like playing dolls when they were little -- they get to make the man of their dreams. Hence the hunk above.
03:47 AM on 04/11/2009
Is that why men look at Maxim?
05:46 AM on 04/11/2009
Your comment is both sexist and homophobic­. You don't mind women's underwear to be modelled (so you can sneak in a peek) but you don't want men's underwear modelled (because someone might think you are gay). Whatever your multiple underlying biases for your comment, you are also wrong that "mens underwear never changes"..­.it's changed in color, size, fabric, cut, even tagless...­just about everything has changed.
02:52 PM on 04/11/2009
"it's changed in color, size, fabric, cut, even tagless...­just about everything has changed".

I Still don't need them modeled (1 "L") to see those sorts of variations for gods sake. The basic structural configurat­ion doesn't change.

You ought to relax and take time to realize the humor offered in the piece.
10:03 AM on 04/10/2009
They way I look at the economy also has to do with the clothing industry. If women's dresses are going up, and men's pant are going down, things are going as usual.
01:57 AM on 04/10/2009
you wear underpants­?
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Nik March
It's dangerous 2b rite wen the government is wrong
12:10 AM on 04/10/2009
I'm most concerned about the volume of men's undergarme­nts that seem to fall outside of the "Boxers or Briefs" category. Let's see...

$4.76 Billion of "underwear­"
-$1.18 Billion in briefs and
-$1.09 Billion in boxers leaves
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$2.49 Billion worth of what?

When did we become a nation of J. Edgar Hoovers?
05:47 AM on 04/11/2009
FYI, most of the rest is "undershir­ts"
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06:38 PM on 04/09/2009
It's true folks, the economy has hit the skids.