Krugman: Stress Tests "Self-Esteem" Class That No One Fails (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 04-12-09 10:33 AM   |   Updated: 05-13-09 05:12 AM

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With the banking industry suffering from a crisis in confidence as much as liquidity, Paul Krugman says the Treasury Department will likely sugarcoat the stress test it is applying to the banks so that all of them are deemed solvent.

"This stress test, I have to say, it is sounding like a class of self-esteem: 'You are all wonderful, each in your own way,'" said the Nobel Prize winning economist. "I don't think they are going to let anybody fail."

Appearing on ABC's This Week, Krugman was prompted by a remark from host George Stephanopoulos, who noted that the political (and actual) capital being afforded to the Obama administration was running out.

"Politically, you cannot get more money for the TARP and the second stimulus plan," said Stephanopoulos. "That would then lead to the temptation in the Treasury Department to sugarcoat what they are going to see from the banks, so that they don't have to ask for more money."

Indeed, to this point, all 19 banks who have been submitted to the Treasury's stress test -- designed to figure out how these institutions will hold up under a deeper recession -- have passed. But regulators also note, per the New York Times, that it is a test "that a bank simply will not fail: if the examiners determine that a bank needs 'exceptional assistance,' the government, that is, taxpayers, will provide it." Only some of the data on the stress test will be made public.

As for the broader economy, Krugman did ring a more optimistic note than in times past, but with a healthy dose of qualification. He said that Barack Obama's chief economic adviser Larry Summers "is right" in his assessment that the sense of the economy falling of the table was likely ending. But he noted that similar indications of a recession leveling off were experienced during the Great Depression, only to be followed by worsening conditions.

"We are moving towards at least a pause," said Krugman. "All the news said that the economy is getting worse ... industrial production is falling, unemployment is rising, all the measures you use about the health of the economy continue to deteriorate, but they are getting worse more slowly. So Larry is right. We were crashing but it looks like it is leveling off. But if you look at history, there were several points like that during the Great Depression, so it is not clear that this is the end of the story."

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- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 49 fans permalink

Let's just say it out loud. The banks run the country. Once we all agree this is the case, we can start asking the banks to fix some problems instead of just taking our money.

If they are going to hog the taxpayer money, then they need to fix things like climate change and the lack of jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 04/13/2009
- Bude I'm a Fan of Bude 165 fans permalink
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What? These people have no shame. Worse yet, if they're Republicans, because of their special relationship with God, they think they can take it with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/13/2009

Krugman need s a stress tesat so doe his newspaper to know how to handle money not be broke.Krugmann loves to be on tv and hear himself talk,He didnt move stock market up255 did he?No Obama did ,ghet of oBama back you Jerk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 04/13/2009

What is it with those Krugman haters (apart from being poor spellers)? If you disagree with him, let us know your arguments. The ad hominem attacks are rather pointless. Krugman himself surely doesn't engage in personal attacks on members of the Obama administration -- that is the purvey of the unhinged right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 04/13/2009
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Suggesting that the Obama administration would rig the stress test so that no bank could fail is a personal attack on the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/13/2009
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... English, anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/13/2009
- blueken I'm a Fan of blueken 64 fans permalink
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Who will destroy the last bit of value in the companies they destroyed if all the self serving, narcissitic "masters of the universe" have bailed out and are off injecting cancer into new start up companies with thier "innovations"? Oh, how will we do without them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 04/13/2009
- rblaquinta I'm a Fan of rblaquinta 22 fans permalink

Listening to the SENSIBLE Steven Pearlstein of the WaPost...steven makes Krugman out to be so non-sensical....Krugman makes no sense.......go away, your 15 min. are over!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 04/13/2009
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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(To be fair, Pearlstein seems to be more of a 'business' journalist,
than a 'pure' economist, like Krugman. So, Pearlstein ends up being
more 'into' markets than Krugman is, & so is lined up with Obama's
market-loving Friedmanites.)

Optimism Over Despair - Steven Pearlstein - March 24, 2009

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032302800.html

It fills me with a sense of despair that Paul Krugman is now "filled with a sense of despair."

Even before the Treasury Department released details of its plan to buy up unwanted bank assets, the Nobel Prize-winning economist was writing in his New York Times column that the plan was certain to fail -- and that this failure would inevitably drag the entire world into a long and painful depression.

Krugman despairs that Tim Geithner, Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke are really nothing more than warmed-over Hank Paulson, so blinded by their free-market ideology that they refuse to consider the only viable option, which is to nationalize all the big banks.

The columnist also despairs that Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod don't really understand the political calculus they now face, which is that the near-certain failure of the Treasury plan will deplete the president's stock of political capital and render him powerless when he finally comes around to proposing nationalization. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 04/14/2009
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 34 fans permalink
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Yes, the problem was the banks didn't have a big enough sense of entitlement before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 04/13/2009
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 44 fans permalink
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Isnt Krugman's fifteen minutes up already?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 04/13/2009
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he mentioned the story not ending, right at the end...translated, he is not going away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 04/13/2009
- Right-turn I'm a Fan of Right-turn 21 fans permalink
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He is just calling like he sees it, someone has to tell the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 04/13/2009
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oh look, the guy from idio.tdotcom is here....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 04/13/2009
- freelyb I'm a Fan of freelyb 27 fans permalink

Do you have anything valid to add? Now's the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 04/13/2009
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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whose truth? the truth AS far as i can tell is no one really knows what will work or fail that includes krugman .because as far as i can find there is no really comparable moment in history. but we do know that the policies of the last decades help get us here. we want to lay blame on a few when in truth is we are all responsible those who carried out the policies and those of us who stood by ans watched.and maybe Obama has learned from 1937 when Roosevelt started listening to his critics . and it started eroding his progress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 04/13/2009
- Bobzmcishl I'm a Fan of Bobzmcishl 43 fans permalink
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Krugman is right - Geithner is too much a part of the Wall Street establishment and unable to see what is good for America versus what is good for Wall Street. Obama should have put someone in charge of Treasury who never put a foot in Wall Street. It would be a breath of fresh air for the country. The irony is even if this plan works, Republican's will not give Obama any credit, just as FDR did not get any credit for saving capitalism. Just watch them spin the argument that the economy fixed itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/13/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 220 fans permalink

Actually, I think if Obama's plan works the GOP meme will be what crisis? Witness Micheal Steele's latest remark--- "the malls are as packed as ever". They'll say the whole economic collapse thing was a ruse to give the Dems the power to turn the country to socialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 04/13/2009
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that plumber, joe, bet he's never set foot on wall street...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 04/13/2009

"Never put a foot on Wall Street" s a bit too stringent as a criterion, but there are plenty of competent people that are not up to their neck in creating the current crisis: Volcker, Buffett, Krugman himself. And, yes, you're right, the Republicans will never give Obama the credit he deserves if this gets resolved, but there are more important things at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 04/13/2009

President Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers
March 18, 2009 10:46 PM

At his town hall meeting in Costa Mesa, Calif., Wednesday evening, President Obama compared embattled insurer AIG and other large failing banks to a suicide bomber.

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

What do you think that means?

who are Summers and Geithner working for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/13/2009
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check the pay stub?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 04/13/2009
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Why...is there a black budget account where checks are attributed to "Wall St. Fat-cats"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 04/13/2009
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It means if you allow them to go broke they potentially drag down whole bunch of other companies, and jobs, that otherwise would not be in trouble.

They are allowing many banks to go broke - lots of them. Why? The damage is containable. It's like they can put the bomb in a steel box and let it blow up with no danger of hurting innocent bystanders.

With the huge international banks and insurance companies, that cannot be done. When they blow up, the explosion is so big it kills lots of innocent bystanders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/13/2009

That is a very pertinent quote, and it really explains Obama's thinking. I don't have a bit of confidence in Summers and Geithner still, but Obama's analytical thinking skills are unsurpassed, and I am confident he'll get us out of the Wall Street mess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 04/13/2009
- Benton I'm a Fan of Benton 42 fans permalink

Progressive whine, cry, fret, and overreact more then any political bloc on earth. This thread reads like text book of why a populist progressive President has never won office in the history of this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/13/2009
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Maybe we should group together like the Repubs and vote "NO" on everything!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 04/13/2009
- Right-turn I'm a Fan of Right-turn 21 fans permalink
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Works for me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 04/13/2009
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Why vote "yes" if it's wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 04/13/2009

Kinda like herding cats?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/13/2009
- liminal67 I'm a Fan of liminal67 3 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 AM on 04/13/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 441 fans permalink
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Populist: Jackson Progressives: Roosevelt, Wilson, Roosevelt, J F K, Johnson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/13/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 441 fans permalink
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Populist agenda grew from a desire for reform in the banking industry, specifically to allow for free silver coinage. The Populists sought more governmental control of the banking system as well as governmental control over the operation of the nation's railroad and communication systems. The Populist movement was one that wanted to return a sense of power to the working man and sought to end the burgeoning sense that American was transforming from its democratic roots into a oligarchy run by the capitalist elite

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 04/13/2009
- Benton I'm a Fan of Benton 42 fans permalink

Not one of them were progressives when elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/13/2009
- philko I'm a Fan of philko 19 fans permalink

"whine, cry, fret and overreact more..."

Yup. That's why the Progressives have been:
-- fretting about Obama turning America into a socialist state.
-- overreacting to Obama's "lack of a valid birth certificate"
-- whining and crying about how Coleman got fewer votes than Franken.
-- fretting that Obama's promise to close Gitmo will cause more terrorist attacks

Maybe what you really mean to say is that Progressives are the only bloc that have proved capable of admitting the faults of their leaders as well as those of the opposition, while the other bloc(s) routinely castigate the other blocs and leaders while turning a blind eye toward their own.

One prime example: Where were the "tea parties" when W (and Reagan, for that matter) were callously spending "our children's money"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 04/13/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 220 fans permalink

Carolab,

The boxes were getting small, so I thought I'd start over with a nice big one. I've read many of your comments and it's obvious that you are well informed and have the passion of your convictions. I truly admire that. And we don't disagree so much on content as we do on process. Obama must be concerned with process as well as content, while we here have the luxury of idealism without pragmatism.

I am curious. Do you think Obama is not smart enough to figure it out? Do you think he is really a hard headed capitalist first and foremost? Do you think he doesn't have the courage to do what is right? Do you think he is most interested in the banker's welfare than the middle class? Do you think he is simply a sap for Geitner and Summers?

I don't mean these questions as snark and I don't intend them rhetorically. I'm truly interested in why those who are disappointed in him think he's made the decisions he has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 04/13/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 441 fans permalink
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I wish I knew, Stella. All I know is the Fed and the international bankers have controlled our "government" and the "rulers" of other nations for some 300 years, with few exceptions. And I don't see how any of us get past them, without a ground swell of mass support for changing the monetary system. Since Obama is a student of the Constitution, I presume he knows what it says about currency and how the founding fathers designed the system. Therefore, he surely understands how this private central banking system aka "the Fed" is not what they intended. The issues, as I see them, are: whether he wants to change it, whether he can, and if so, how.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/13/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 220 fans permalink

Carol---you are more informed on the issues of how the fed and the treasury interact than I am. And I am grateful for those who raise their voices on the left, as for years the silence from than end has been deafening.

You said "The issues, as I see them, are: whether he wants to change it, whether he can, and if so, how." I think of all these "whether he can" is the question that requires the most patience and thought. Which is not to say folks shouldn't speak up. But anger is contagious and sometimes it sticks the eye to the keyhole, disallows us from flying above and seeing the big picture.

What I see is this. Cap and trade is almost dead, EFCA is on life support, the stimulus barely squeaked through and the budget is breech in the birth canal. Political capital is real, and he's used a lot of it to get as far as he has. And health care reform is rumbling down the track and It's hard for me to see a bigger benefit to the middle class than that.

I read your link down the thread from Krugman: There’s only so much long-run thinking the political system can handle in the midst of a severe crisis; he has probably taken on all he can, for now." I would like to hear this from him more often, in addition to his other thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 04/13/2009

President Obama Compares Big Banks, AIG, to Suicide Bombers
March 18, 2009 10:46 PM

At his town hall meeting in Costa Mesa, Calif., Wednesday evening, President Obama compared embattled insurer AIG and other large failing banks to a suicide bomber.

"Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got -- they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

What do you think that means?

Who do you think Summers and Geithner work for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 04/13/2009
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Right NOW Wall Street OWNS our Government Paying:

1. Average of $7.5 Million to each Senator every 4 years!
2. Average of $1.86 Million to each House Member every 4 years!
3. During Early Campaign Obama took the Early Lead in Wall Street Funds: $479,209 with GS and UBS the Biggest!

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/04/17/in-race-for-wall-street-funds-obama-gains-early-lead/

PROTECT OUR Congress Members Votes:

Funnel all Political Contributions through a Government Contribution Cleansing and Funds Distribution Agency that uses strict formulas for allocating funds blindly to Politicians so their votes are NOT purchased! Fairness for New potential Members (No incumbent advantages for voting record)!

Main Street gets NO LOBBY SUPPORT while Wall Street is rewarded for their FAILURES and CORRUPTION!
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NOW:

WALL STREET = $TRILLION FROM GOVERNMENT = TREASURY+FED = NO LENDING

MAIN STREET = LOST CREDIT&PRODUCTIVITY = NO "FAIR" LENDING from WALL STREET BANKS
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OBAMA DO THIS:

MAIN STREET = OPEN NEW GOVERNMENT CREDIT FLOWS = FAIR LOW RATES and FEES

MAIN STREET = GROW NEW INDUSTRIES&JOBS = PROSPERITY FOR 99.9% OF AMERICANS

About $1 to Main Street for Every $1,000 to Wall Street!
($Billion versus $Trillions from FED and Gov.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 04/13/2009
- jozinha I'm a Fan of jozinha 21 fans permalink
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I think Obama sees the entire picture. But he's a politician. He needs strong Congressional support. He's got to wait until the yahoos in the House and Senate see things clearly enough to back him enough in making any huge change.

That being said, I am disheartened about the possibility of financial reform more by the presence of Rahm Emmanuel than I am of Summers or Geithner. Rahm is literally business as usual. I'd be shocked to see him back a restructuring or elimination of the Fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 04/13/2009

they are being cut out by the FED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 04/13/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 220 fans permalink

I could be as wrong as the next person, but my instinct is Obama is a pretty strong boss---not a micro manager, but if I worked for him I wouldn't figure on setting my own policies without his input and approval.

Unlike Cheney who had his way with Bush because Bush fed off Cheney's strength. I don't get that vibe from Obama, and I think what ever Geithner, Summers or Emmanuel do, the buck will still be fairly placed on Obama's desk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/13/2009

He said we are being held hostage by the banks............what does that mean?
Who do summers and geithner work for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 04/13/2009
- jozinha I'm a Fan of jozinha 21 fans permalink
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I wish Krugman would say once how complicated this financial debacle is. What a deep sh *t hole the financial services jokers around the world have created! It was done at the hands of Wall Street jerks, but also at the urging of a ravenous global money pool.

How can all of this be straightened out simply and easily?

Comparing it to The Great Depression is totally off track.

We need informative voices like Krugman, but he's got to be more of an all-round mensch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 04/13/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 441 fans permalink
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I'd like him to explain what Soros is up to -- since they both attended the London School of Economics and it was funded by David Rockefeller.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 04/13/2009
- jozinha I'm a Fan of jozinha 21 fans permalink
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Nobody wants to explain Soros. Too scary. And Soros would only play it to win, whether he's outed or not, so where's the benefit? Let's just hope Soros can remain in a benevolent position toward the U.S. I'm not counting on it if we don't seriously get our act together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 04/13/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 220 fans permalink

I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 04/13/2009
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No, just not willing to do your legwork.
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I'm not asking you do do any extra leg work to explain what global trade and economic locations are, Carolab.

Just a explanation of what you know. Since you said that that I was wrong in my conclusions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 04/12/2009
- iblog I'm a Fan of iblog 23 fans permalink

I don't think you can explain it straightforward and clearly.

You'll use deflect to make an insulting remark to get you off the hook.

Then you'll feel superior again. For a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 04/12/2009

Do your own homework.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 04/12/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 441 fans permalink
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Research it for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 04/12/2009
- iblog I'm a Fan of iblog 23 fans permalink

Did you say you were an educator?

Funny representation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 04/12/2009
- hapiday I'm a Fan of hapiday 103 fans permalink
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Oh how I wish Krugman worked in the Obama Administration. I wonder how he would be able to withstand the constant yapping from these posters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 04/12/2009
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