Limbaugh: Torture Works Because McCain Admitted He Was 'Broken By The North Vietnamese' (VIDEO)

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Huffington Post   |  Nicholas Graham   |   04/18/09 09:10 PM

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Think Progress catches Rush Limbaugh making a specious argument involving John McCain and the North Vietnamese as proof that torture is effective in gathering intelligence. Limbaugh claims McCain acknowledged that torture works because he admitted that the Viet Cong "broke" him during his time as a captive.

LIMBAUGH: The idea that torture doesn't work- that's been put out from John McCain on down- You know, for the longest time McCain said torture doesn't work then he admitted in his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention last summer that he was broken by North Vietnamese. So what are we to think here?

In fact McCain wrote about giving his captors false information to stop the abuse, and this is not the first time Limbaugh has falsely tried to use McCain's words and experience to buttress an argument for torture. Think Progress has much more on Limbaugh's specious claims here.

This debate has been spurred by the Obama administration releasing the secret memos from the Bush administration authorizing torture. You can read the full memos here. Indeed, in the footnotes of one of the memos, they identify waterboarding, which the U.S. has used on detainees, as torture.

Think Progress catches Rush Limbaugh making a specious argument involving John McCain and the North Vietnamese as proof that torture is effective in gathering intelligence. Limbaugh claims McCain ack...
Think Progress catches Rush Limbaugh making a specious argument involving John McCain and the North Vietnamese as proof that torture is effective in gathering intelligence. Limbaugh claims McCain ack...
 
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- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Listening to Rush is the worst torture of all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 04/22/2009

Yes. What are we to think Rush?

Here is what I think... As a retired US Army Soldier I remember the lessons the Army taught me. WE DO NOT TORTURE! For many reasons. Mainly, it (torture) provides a reason for our enemy soldiers to fight harder NOT to be captured and the information obtained from torture is unreliable.

UNRELIABLE. What does that mean? If we spend precious resources running down unreliable leads we don't have those resources for the battle. Not cool!

Furthermore, McCain has stated many times that he gave false information to his interrogators. Sure he said he was broken, but what that got them was a STATEMENT, not information, BIG DIFFERENCE! So, is that what we are after Rush? To break the prisoner to provide us a propaganda statement?

Perhaps Rush, if you had actually served your country you might understand these things.

We are not interested in "Getting Even" by emulating our enemies behavior. We are way better than that, at least most of us are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 04/22/2009
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The million-dollar question is, would Limbaugh himself submit to being waterboarded?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 04/21/2009
- Ron333wood I'm a Fan of Ron333wood 6 fans permalink

They don't grow "boards" that big!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 04/23/2009
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What did North Vietnam do with the names of the line of the Green Bay Packers? Shame on Senator McCain for handing over the names of the Packers while being tortured. He put our national security at risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/21/2009
- coco51 I'm a Fan of coco51 15 fans permalink

I know we are disgusted with McCain's disgraceful run for the Presidency last year, be we should be pragmatic with the facts. The nation nor the team was not at risk when he gave the Packers names. I appreciate McCain's candor in this, he could go the way of the meglamaniacs but he chose to be honorable. I appreciate that. McCain in my book is an enigma, he's at war with his conscience and the idealogue of his party for his place in the history book. You can either pity the man or grant him some respect. I pity him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 04/21/2009

It's time to change the Republican symbol from and elephant to a chicken hawk. Most of these clowns that talk tough have never served this country.

Maybe the big, loud mouth chicken hawk can explain the benefit of waterboarding someone over 150 times in one month. The only logical reason is to punish, not to extract iinformation.

It's nice to see the sadists are no longer in control, they just get to shout from the sidelines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 04/21/2009

~steaming~ man free speech cuts deep...I don't even like McCain but this pisses me off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 04/21/2009
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 278 fans permalink
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McCain was not tortured according to his guard and nurses interviews in a Russian and Eroupean Newspaper. McCain told them everything just to get medical care for his broken bones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/21/2009
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Is McCain going to respond to this insult? Or is he one of the many Republicans already preparing a preemptive apology to Rush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 04/20/2009

Limbaugh is a shameful man.
Why does anybody listen to him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 04/20/2009
- drummer4 I'm a Fan of drummer4 2 fans permalink
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The Republicans listen to him because they are desperate and think just like him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/21/2009
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He is the leader of the Republican party, that's why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 04/21/2009
- Val49 I'm a Fan of Val49 4 fans permalink

schicklett3, you have to understand that the people that listen to him are the same as he is, SHAMEFUL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 04/21/2009
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Because the week-minded need a loud voice to tell them what to think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 04/21/2009
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What does Rush know about anything really. The only thing he knows, is that if you don't agree with him, then you're un-American. He knows how to spew hate and be divisive. That's it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 04/20/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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I can't believe how they eat their own!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 04/20/2009
- Mahi Joe I'm a Fan of Mahi Joe 48 fans permalink

I bet McCain is not too happy with Rush's comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/21/2009

Danm McCain you know your friends,....Keep up the good work,....with friends like limbaugh
geeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeee!­!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 04/20/2009

MCCAIN MEANT HIS ARM WAS BROKEN! DAH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 04/20/2009
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Did Rush EVER serve in the armed forces??????
Enough Said!!

When can we get real about what a true patriot is?? I would love to see Rush's performance if he would have been held captive....
Still can't get over the Bush and Kerry debate

Sincerly,
United States Navy Veteran

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 04/20/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 23 fans permalink

Well, at least their heads weren't cut off.

Not saying that torture is right... however, why not just let them all go and hope they
don't land in our back yards again.

This country tells too much...they would undermine the security of America
just to have a story in the news and pat themselves on the back because they
are the ones who blabbed about everything...

Remember the slogan in WW2....LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 04/20/2009
- twb1951 I'm a Fan of twb1951 7 fans permalink

Loose lips was about those in the states not talking about sensitive issues due to Axis spies in our country. If your going to use historical reference use it correctly. And who are "they"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/21/2009
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