Dimon: Iraq War, Greed Contributed To Economic Collapse

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the economy.

Dimon cited "an expensive war in Iraq" as one of the possible triggers of the economic collapse. Spending on the war ballooned the deficit and crowded out investment in domestic priorities. Meanwhile, the trade deficit soared.

"I suspect when analysts and economists study the fundamental causes of this crisis, they will point to the enormous U.S. trade deficit as one of the main underlying culprits. Over an eight-year period, the United Sates ran a trade deficit of $3 trillion. This means that Americans bought $3 trillion more than they sold overseas. Dollars were used to pay for the goods. Foreign countries took these dollars and purchased, for the most part, U.S. Treasuries and mortgage-backed securities. It also is likely that this process kept U.S. interest rates very low, even beyond Federal Reserve policy, for an extended period of time."

Those depressed interest rates, in turn, pushed air into the housing bubble until it popped.

Dimon also cites the 2008 energy crisis as a shock to the economy that played a part in bringing it down. The energy crisis may still have occurred without the instability in the Middle East caused by the U.S. invasion, but with Iraq's oil supply knocked off-line for years, it didn't help.

Dimon also places some of the blame for the crisis on greed for ever-higher profits, which he refers to as "irrational pressure...to show increasingly better returns." The system he's referring to -- which pressures companies to steadily increase returns due to the cost of capital -- is called capitalism.

"Many other factors may have added to this storm -- an expensive war in Iraq, short-selling, high energy prices, and irrational pressure on corporations, money managers and hedge funds to show increasingly better returns," offered Dimon.

"The modern financial world has had its first major financial crisis. So far, many major actors are gone: many of the mortgage brokers, numerous hedge funds, Wachovia, WaMu, Bear Stearns, Lehman and many others. Some of the survivors are struggling, particularly as we face a truly global, massive recession -- and it still is not over," he wrote.

Read his analysis in his letter to shareholders (PDF). If you find anything else noteworthy, let me know at ryan@huffingtonpost.com.

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JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the...
JPMorgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, in a letter to shareholders, touched on a theme that critics of the Iraq war were highlighting more than a year ago: That spending on the war was damaging to the...
 
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It probably had nothing to do with his company's dealing with Bernard Madoff, right? http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/5780

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 04/28/2009
- getoffmedz I'm a Fan of getoffmedz 110 fans permalink
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Stop these stupid $ucking wars. NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 04/22/2009

http://budget.edgeboss.net/wmedia/budget/2009/jec090421.wvx

SEE VIDEO

Prof. Stiglitz, Simon Johnson,

Too Big to Fail or Too Big to Save? Examining the Systemic Threats of Large Financial Institutions
April 21, 2009

The Joint Economic Committee (JEC), chaired by Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney, held a hearing on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. in Cannon House Office Building Room 210. At the hearing, entitled “Too Big to Fail or Too Big to Save? Examining the Systemic Threats of Large Financial Institutions,” economists including Joseph Stiglitz and Simon Johnson focused on new policy responses to failures at large financial institutions. The hearing examined what criteria policymakers and regulators should use to determine when institutions pose systemic risk – at what point financial firms become ‘too big to fail’ – and how regulators should deal with them when they are insolvent.

Click here to watch an archived video of the JEC hearing, "Too Big to Fail or Too Big to Save? Examining the Systemic Threats of Large Financial Institutions,”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 04/22/2009

Not exactly the case although resources do play a leading role but there are countries that have a people resource. A highly educated workforce. Great engineers and who can provide other talents. Besides the US could have tried earlier to find a better sources of energy. It all leads back to the same things no matter how you want to target it.. There were many reason combining them all created the financial disaster. Corrupted thinking and acting together with all the outstanding problems and leveraging up a bubble in the price of oil which helped the speculators make massive short term profits, and took advantage of the naive Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/21/2009
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 39 fans permalink

Neither greed nor the Iraq war was the *CAUSE*. But certainly they deepened and extended the depression. The cause was the rise in oil prices and our dependence on imported oil. It has been for a long time a axiom in economics that a nation dependent on outside resources (example: food) can not maintain a high standard of living.

Economists try to figure out why Japan can't pull out of its decades long recession. The answer is simple: it is a resource poor nation. Every time it begins to increase its GDP, rising prices for raw materials pull the legs from under their economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 04/21/2009

Yes, There is very little discussion going on outside of banking industry about the board of directors in all public companies. Many directors are sitting on Boards and having little experience or talent about the real business. What they seem to know the best is compensation and how to take it out of the corporation with the naive American public not fully understanding it.

Many directors were also government employees and it is part of their payoff. Get rid of the cronies and find qualified people who feel honored to sit on the board of a public company without wanting to Hijack the earnings.

Follow the Trail of C Michael Armstrong he ruined ATT took huge compensation from Mom and Pops and now also sits on Citi's board.

Who controls the proxy shares for voting on US corporations. Mostly the banks and wallstreet and mutual funds the very people that our taking advantage of the system. Why would they want to let the other shareholders change it. Anyone with a tiny bit of honor would already have resigned. No they have to be forced out but that is difficult to do without having the supply of shares in our control. The Fund Managers, and Banks have the shares.

The overly compensated executives took the American dream and turned it into the American nightmare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 04/21/2009
- HST I'm a Fan of HST 48 fans permalink
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Dimon forgot the part about hiring incompetent cronies to staff regulatory positions and look the other way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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While everyone has focused on Goldman and AIG, JP Morgan keeps getting a "pass". WHY is that?

Because JP Morgan STARTED the Fed, and Jamie Dimon is a Class A Director.

Look at JPM and GS TOGETHER. Because this was the collusion of two giants, the FDIC and the Fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 04/21/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

With due deference to the Mentalist, Brother Rush told me it was Acorn and the poor.
And I think Bill Clinton as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 04/21/2009
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10 billion a month that we don't have and we gave our manufacturing base away to china and mexico had an effect on the economy WOW who would of thought

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Spoken as a true Class A Director of the New York Fed Board of Directors -- since January 2007.

After all a Fed board member isn't supposed to be making decisions that might benefit him financially. So, Timothy Geithner had to be very careful while giving money to JP Morgan to help bail it out of $90 Trillion in derivatives.

Like forcing a hostile takeover of Bear Stearns.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8974

And making Lehman go "bankrupt" but (because CEO Richard Fuld also sat on the Fed's board) pass a $138B bailout afterward through JP Morgan, plus another from AIG's bailout money to Barclay's, who bought Lehman's assets.

http://mothanskin.blog-city.com/richard_fuld_the_housing_crisis__federal_reserve_connectio.htm

Because U.S.C. Chapter 11, Section 208, makes it a felony punishable by up to 5 five years in prison for members of the Board of Directors of a Federal Reserve Bank to make decisions benefiting their own financial interests.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/WHAT-S-THE-DIFFERENCE-BETW-by-Ellen-Brown-080613-112.html

The Fed and the FDIC colluded carefully to declare WaMu "insolvent" so that JP Morgan could pick up its capital--and the FDIC got WaMu's branches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e8oqACjrXQ&feature=related

Finally, Dimon exerted pressure to make sure Bank of America picked up Merrill Lynch.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/10/blood-on-the-street-jp-morgan-pushed-merrill-lynch-into-bank-of-america-merger

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Because, after all, it was Dimon's own "swat team" who saved the day, and helped it avoid the "credit crunch" according for Fortune magazine:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/29/news/companies/tully_dimon.fortune/index.htm

As of March 31, 2009, JPM had a Tier 1 Capital ratio of 11.3%, or 9.2% excluding TARP capital. Tangible common equity to risk-weighted assets ratio was also strong at 7.2%. During the conference call, Mr. Dimon said that the company would like to pay back the TARP funds as soon as it receives guidance from the Government and further, in view of its strong capital position, it does not need to raise capital to repay TARP money.

Mr. Dimon also said that the company does not intend to participate in PPIP (Public-Private Investment Program), though he thinks that if PPIP is properly executed, it could be good for the system. He also clarified that the company’s results did not benefit from accounting rule changes.

See: JP Morgan Beats Estimates http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/19198/

JP Morgan Rakes in $5B "Derivatives Profit"

http://hedgefinger.blogspot.com/2009/03/jpmorgan-rakes-in-5-billion-derivatives.html

Perhaps, for his next "feat" Jamie Dimon will be getting a Congressional Medal of Honor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 04/21/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 145 fans permalink

Masterful job of linkage and site referencing, Carol. Goldman and Morgan have been involved in virtually every economic "event" of the 20th and now, 21st centuries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 04/21/2009
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No No everybody our trouble stated because they were making loans to people could'nt afford them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 04/21/2009
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So much for the idea that we can spend ourselves into permanent prosperity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/21/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

What they wanted was for everyone (every person) to be indebted to them forever. I just don't know if they overplayed their hand and will fail, Or the hand is still being played and we (the people) will still lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 04/21/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 04/21/2009
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 145 fans permalink

I'm coming to the conclusion that the derivatives were never intended to show a profit, and neither were the insurance policies on them.

The entire market for both was created with the end in mind of using the possible world wide Depression fallout to blackmail the President and the People into paying up on those gambling debts. And it has worked.

There is now and never was any economic crisis. Not in the way the banks tried to sell it to us. Companies have been closed, jobs lost, homes taken, unions busted, and wages depressed, as a way of flexing Banking's muscle. Now with our money firmly in their pocket they can get on with the business of buying--yet again--the rest of America up on the cheap!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 04/21/2009
- Rmath I'm a Fan of Rmath 57 fans permalink
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Not to mention the fact that the "war on terrorism" and the false patriotism that went along with it distracted Congress and the public from paying the least attention to what the robber barons were up to. What a brilliant tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/21/2009

What I would hope, is that more people would understand it is not one factor or ten factors it is a form of corrupted behavior throughout most of our institutions. Real Capitalism never had a chance because of many years’ of bail-outing institutions for their misdeeds... Sure, you can blame part of it on the war or trade deficits, but these are all outcome from the greed and arrogance. Get rid of the financial oligarchs and the robber barons elite stop them from hijacking the financial system and instead release creativity, and innovation. Then we can start to go forward once again. If denial continues, as it looks like from the many responses, then everything is just a waste of words. Whether the war was a trigger or not the existing problems were still there, and need to be dealt with and cleansed. If Jamie Dimon is what he presents, we have no way of knowing, as nothing is transparent. Neither JP Morgan’s balance sheet or their possible accounting methods and tricks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/21/2009
- Nova16 I'm a Fan of Nova16 34 fans permalink

The estimated cost of this war is ultimately 2-3 trillion dollars, if it ever ends. This is the view of many leading economists. Joseph Stiglitz among them. I won't go into the cost in lives because this has been minimized by the media and the Bush administration to the regret of a nation that was duped into invading a country that did us no harm, had no navy or air force and an army that would rather run than fight. Bush roams the country and world at his leisure while this nation languishes in the misery he has caused at home and abroad. There is a great upheaval over the use of torture and spying on citizens of the country and the dismanteling of the Constitution. This war, the most egregious part of Bush's failed policies and programs, will haunt this nation for many years into the future, but I don't believe he or Cheney feel any remorse for their disastrous administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 04/21/2009
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