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As Report Shows Bybee's Torture Culpability, Conyers Says: 'We're Coming After These Guys'

First Posted: 05/22/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:15 PM ET

John Conyers

Bush administration attorney Jay Bybee, now a judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals serving a lifetime appointment, crafted legal justifications for torture after intelligence officials began to adapt techniques already deemed illegal by U.S. and international law, according to a report released Tuesday evening by the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The 232-page report leaves no doubt that the interrogation techniques were torture and were long known to be illegal. The Bush administration's program of torture was "reverse engineered," in the words of Richard Shiffrin, the general counsel for intelligence for the Department of Defense in 2002, from communist Chinese techniques designed to elicit false confessions. In that respect, the program worked well, as tortured detainees told officials whatever they could think of and sent CIA agents chasing bogus tips around the globe, according to press reports.

The program that the torture was developed from was known as Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE). The purpose of SERE was to teach American soldiers to resist torture - not to establish a set of practices to torture detainees.

SERE was run by the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA). One JPRA instructor told the committee that the set of techniques in the program, such as waterboarding, were "based on illegal exploitation...of prisoners over the last 50 years."

On August 1, 2002, Bybee signed two memos that purported to justify the torture, arguing that for it to be torture it "must inflict pain that is difficult to endure," using as examples "serious physical injury, such as organ failure." His second memo, released after the report was finished, justified specific acts of torture that had been deemed illegal for the past 50 years by U.S. and international law. The report was embargoed until Tuesday night.

Much of the abuse disclosed in the committee's report had previously been made public by either the International Committee of the Red Cross, news reports or in books such as Jane Mayer's "Dark Side". But the committee report demonstrates how torture was first justified by the White House for Guantanamo detainees, but then spread by official edict to Afghanistan and Iraq - even after the authority to torture was rescinded for Guantanamo agents. The Bush administration had argued that the Geneva Conventions didn't apply in Afghanistan, but never tried that argument in Iraq. Still, the torture memos written for Guantanamo, where international law was unilaterally suspended, were used, the report shows, to legally justify torture in Iraq.

Simply deeming illegal acts to be legal does not, of course, make them legal. Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), in arguing for Bybee's impeachment, says that the purpose of the memos was not to give an honest legal analysis, but to deem legal behavior that is clearly illegal in order to encourage that illegal activity. The charge, says Nadler, would be something along the lines of conspiracy to abet torture.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) announced Tuesday he would hold a hearing looking into the role Bush administration lawyers played in justifying torture. Some lawyers, Conyers told the Huffington Post, were engaged in honest analysis of the law. Others, he said, were simple law breakers.

"There are some who tried to do a get-out-of-jail-free card. Obviously, there are some that that's all they were thinking," said Conyers, declining to name specific names, citing his upcoming hearings.

But he has a few in mind. "We're coming after these guys," he said.

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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
hollybork
04:35 PM on 04/23/2009
Articles of Impeachment can be written up in a week charging Bybee with conspiracy to abet torture, Rico violations, etc.

Then hold a number of Senate Hearings like they did for Bill Clinton, and make recommendations to the House for trial to remove Bybee for high crimes and misdemeanors. Impeach Bybee and send him to the House for Trial.

Impeaching Bybee will be a way to get the whole story out. He will sing like a bird, seek Presidential Privilege and Executive Perogative. Then he will claim it was not torture, and the whole thing will have to be ruled on in the House.

This trial will be much more effective than trying to go after Rice, Cheney, Ashcroft, Tenet, Haynes and W. Bush right now.
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
09:10 AM on 04/23/2009
The uproar against the Bush lawyers reminds me of this quote:

"The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers."

from Shakespeare's Henry VI

Sounds like scapegoating to me. Cite the laws which these lawyers broke. There is no reason to prosecute them criminally. I agree they are bottom feeders, like corporate lawyers who abet the immoral conduct of their employers. However the target of our ire should be the officials who approved torture, i.e. the guy who put the "vice" in vice-president.

Regarding Judge Bybee: I hate that Bybee can live until death on taxpayer money because Bush wanted to reward him for his toadying. But did Bybee lie during his Senate hearings? Apparently no questions were asked on the subject by our brilliant senators. I don't know that he has committed an impeachable offense, that is a high crime or misdemeanor.

If Bybee had a sense of personal honor, he'd resign. We know he won't resign because he wouldn't have written those legal opinions if he had any integrity. Bybee is disgraced and unemployable now (unless FOX or a right wing stink tank hires him), so he will keep his job and title.

I say, let the court where he sits marginalize him. Never let his be the deciding vote. Give him the most innocuous work to do. Shun him.
08:42 AM on 04/23/2009
In 2006 Ted Kennedy proposed an amendment to the military commissions act that would've defined waterboarding as a war crime and would've clarified it as TORTURE and the reason he did that was because it is not currently classified as torture under the law and it's not a war crime under the law! It didn't pass by the way in a Democrat led Congress. If the Dems really believe waterboarding is torture they can change the law TODAY! They can amend the federal statute so that water boarding would be classified as torture. Why aren't they doing if? I suggest it's because that would put the last nail in the coffin of any attempt to prosecute Bush admin. officials. This is a shameful attempt to embarrass the Bush admin. It IS a political witch hunt. Wake up and smell the stench of the true intentions of the progressive!
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
09:12 AM on 04/23/2009
Huffing destroys brain cells.
08:41 AM on 04/23/2009
It's about time. And time for a real 9-11 Commission.
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MsLiz
burned out attorney, flaming liberal
09:12 AM on 04/23/2009
Commissions are for white washing.
02:16 AM on 04/23/2009
Stop chest thumping, and get to work!
09:11 PM on 04/22/2009
Send them to the ICC. Our system is so politicized, it would never get a conviction in my life time. Let the international courts expose Bush and the shame he has brought on us. Our grandfathers flew B-17s and 17 year old Americans and Englishmen, including George I, died to end this kind of horror in Europe 70 years ago. We need the same fortitude today to prosecute Bush in 21st centruy Nuremberg type trial.
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08:46 PM on 04/22/2009
Conyers = Soundbite and nothing more.
11:55 PM on 04/22/2009
Conyers + a Congressional leadership that threatened him + unsophisticated progressives ignorant of how the House works = soundbite.
06:40 PM on 04/22/2009
But when?!?! You keep getting our hopes up, but we need to know when!
06:10 PM on 04/22/2009
sorry John you are a little late, you and your dozens of unenforced subpeonas have less than zero credibility on holding anybody responsible for anything. You were a BIG part of the problem.
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calickizzle
06:26 PM on 04/22/2009
He was a big part of the problem when he continually entered legislation pushing for the impeachment of George W. Bush. I'm sorry, it seems that every fellow legislator who didn't sign on to Conter's impeachment legislation were, in fact, a BIG part of the problem....
05:46 PM on 04/22/2009
Yeah, sure you are Mr. Conyers. I won't be holding my breath.
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SILVANUS
Moving to Italy indefinitely. God Bless All.
05:23 PM on 04/22/2009
I expect to see ACTION, Conyers. No more B.S.
04:12 PM on 04/22/2009
Just like he was going to get Rove hauled in to testify before Congress. I'll believe it when I see it.
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JDM73
male, 38, writer/draughtsman/ex-musician
04:11 PM on 04/22/2009
"We're coming after these guys."
I hope so, Mr. Conyers. I really do. The president has given a little ground on this issue, but only because there's been such a huge uproar in response to his "let's move forward instead of looking backward" comment. It's about time the American people became outraged enough to speak up.
03:55 PM on 04/22/2009
Huffpo didn't post my comment so I'm doing it again.

If Conyers couldnt get Rove in to testify in the Seigelman/AG case, and wouldn't use the congressional authority to arrest him and force him before congress, what makes us think anything is going to come from his statement. I'll believe it when I see criminal charges brought against perpetrators, Bybee off the bench and people sentenced to jail, or at the very least forced to do some kind of service, preferably cleaning up after the ones they tortured.

All our politicians left and right are nothing but hot air. This is why there needs to be term limits in the senate and the house so that things can actually get done without these guys constantly worrying about "am I going to do something to not get re-elected"
03:45 PM on 04/22/2009
That Conyers is a good man and once he is on the case people start looking for cover. I bet we see bushies in jail within a month.
06:11 PM on 04/22/2009
LOLOL good one, have you thought about taking that routine on the road?
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
calickizzle
06:27 PM on 04/22/2009
Scared much?
11:52 PM on 04/22/2009
Actually, Conyers stood up when no one else did. He is not the leader in Congress. If you have a problem its with impeachment is off the table Pelosi. Conyers was holding hearings in the basement of Congress when it was not popular. He was there when nobody else showed up. I suggest you study how things work in the House of Representatives. You cannot do a darn thing without the support of the leadership. Mocking, disrespecting and casting aspersions on your likely allies is not the way to go.