New Torture Photos Release Delayed By Obama (UPDATED)

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First Posted: 04-24-09 09:56 AM   |   Updated: 05-25-09 05:12 AM

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UPDATE: The White House plans to announce that Obama is "seeking to delay release of 'torture photos' depicting detainee abuse, reversing course.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs is going to make the announcement at his afternoon briefing.

Gibbs told reporters yesterday that President Obama has "great concern" about the impact that releasing the photos would have on soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) wrote Obama last week to urge him to fight the release of the photos.

"The release of these old photographs of past behavior that has now been clearly prohibited can serve no public good, but will empower al-Qaeda propaganda operations, hurt our country's image, and endanger our men and women in uniform," they wrote.

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The Obama administration will release more photos of Bush era prisoner abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan to satisfy demands from an ACLU Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, according to a Thursday ACLU press release. Here is the release:

Photos Depict Abuse Of Prisoners By U.S. Personnel In Iraq And Afghanistan


NEW YORK - In a letter addressed to a federal court today, the Department of Defense announced that it will make public by May 28 a "substantial number" of photos depicting the abuse of prisoners by U.S. personnel. The photos, which are being released in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union in 2004, include images from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan at locations other than Abu Ghraib.

"These photographs provide visual proof that prisoner abuse by U.S. personnel was not aberrational but widespread, reaching far beyond the walls of Abu Ghraib," said Amrit Singh, staff attorney with the ACLU. "Their disclosure is critical for helping the public understand the scope and scale of prisoner abuse as well as for holding senior officials accountable for authorizing or permitting such abuse."

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The letter follows a September 2008 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit requiring disclosure of the photos and the court's subsequent refusal in March 2009 to rehear the case. The Defense Department has indicated that it will not ask the Supreme Court to review the Second Circuit's ruling.

Since the ACLU's FOIA request in 2003, the Bush administration had refused to disclose these images by attempting to radically expand the exemptions allowed under the FOIA for withholding records. The administration claimed that the public disclosure of such evidence would generate outrage and would violate U.S. obligations towards detainees under the Geneva Conventions.

However, a three judge panel of the appeals court in September 2008 rejected the Bush administration's attempt to use exemptions to the FOIA as "an all-purpose damper on global controversy" and recognized the "significant public interest in the disclosure of these photographs" in light of government misconduct. The court also recognized that releasing the photographs is likely to prevent "further abuse of prisoners." The Bush administration subsequently requested that the full Court of Appeals rehear the case. That request was denied on March 11, 2009.

"The disclosure of these photographs serves as a further reminder that abuse of prisoners in U.S.-administered detention centers was systemic," said Jameel Jaffer, Director of the ACLU National Security Project. "Some of the abuse occurred because senior civilian and military officials created a culture of impunity in which abuse was tolerated, and some of the abuse was expressly authorized. It's imperative that senior officials who condoned or authorized abuse now be held accountable for their actions."

The Defense Department letter announcing the photos' release may be viewed here.

The Bush administration long tried to keep photos of prisoner abuse sealed, lest their release provoke anti-Americanism in the Middle East and around the world. As the Guardian notes:

The release will increase pressure for pardons for military personnel who were punished for abuses at Abu Ghraib. Their lawyers are arguing that the Bush administration portrayed it as an isolated incident, whereas in fact it was widespread and approved at the highest levels.


There is a risk the pictures might create another backlash in the Middle East, though it is more likely they will be seen in their historical context as part of the Bush era.

Likewise, some current and former CIA officials are already excoriating the administration's decision to release the photos now, rather than allowing it to play out in the Supreme Court, according to ABC's Jake Tapper. One former CIA official, Dr. Mark M. Lowenthal, speaking to ABC, describes the photos' release as "prurient" and "reprehensible." Lowenthal then goes on to lament what he sees as an unnecessary and egregious effort to throw the CIA under the bus.

However, Tapper also points out that efforts to keep the photos sealed has long been a losing battle in court, which has already ruled that unsealing "the photographs is likely to further the purposes of the Geneva Conventions by deterring future abuse of prisoners." And a November petition to re-hear the case and reverse this ruling was denied last month.

UPDATE: The White House plans to announce that Obama is "seeking to delay release of 'torture photos' depicting detainee abuse, reversing course. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs is going to...
UPDATE: The White House plans to announce that Obama is "seeking to delay release of 'torture photos' depicting detainee abuse, reversing course. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs is going to...
 
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- Madbunny I'm a Fan of Madbunny 6 fans permalink

Yes, this will hurt America and our image around the world. It will make it even lower than it already is, it will add fuel to the fire of our enemies hatred and they will shout from the hilltops how they were right all along that we torture, kidnap and secretly keep people.

There is no way around it. WE were the bad guys here. WE were the people to decided that any means is justifed. Now, we pay the price for our hubris. It wasn't just a few bad apples, it was bad all the way to the roots. Pretending that we had no options doesn't change any of that.

As an American citizen I am deeply ashamed to admit that my fellow countrymen allowed their fear to get the best of them and resorted to cheap tactics reminescent of every tinhat 3rd world dictator. We went from a position of strength and moral righteousness after 9/11 and now stand in a dung heap made of our own lies, fear and corruption. If another plane were to smash into a building the world would shrug it's shoulders and say we got what we deserved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 04/27/2009
- mmgbizgirl I'm a Fan of mmgbizgirl 20 fans permalink
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This country WILL NOT move forward without dealing with the issue of Torture. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 04/27/2009

If one American is murdered by a Terrorist as a result of Obama's meddling in our CIA's methods of getting information, Obama should be impeached and removed from office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 04/26/2009
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Irony escapes you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/26/2009

You dumbo it isn't Obama it is every American who becomes a prisoner in any country in the world who like the 3 American women journalists currently being held in Iran and N. Korea that have to worry. Your gutless worrying about a terroist attack is what makes America look so ridiculous world wide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 04/26/2009
- shafff I'm a Fan of shafff 3 fans permalink
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Closure, admitting your wrong and allowing your dirty fungus ridden open secret to dry out in the sun.

I'm all for it

Do you not think that at some stage or another photos in privet position wont be sold to the highest foreign bidder. Better have the US government puts it all out in the public domain & claim the high moral ground for its action

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 04/26/2009

The nature of your "concern" and prioritization is ONE example of the reason The United States has lost its credibility world wide. It is sad and ignorant and completely out of touch with mankind. Obama is the collective result of a changing nation and taking responsibility for our deeds...good or otherwise.­..otherwis­e being this case. Posing with tortured human beings...and smiling...is a sure sign of a failed administration. There is nothing complicated about this fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 04/27/2009

This is what Ronald Reagan had to say on this. I wonder how he would handle all the "excuses" being made? Would he have changed his mind about this in the light of 9/11 or would he have maintained his moral compass? I'm inclined to believe he would have followed the latter path.

Reagan On Torture Prosecutions
From his signing statement ratifying the UN Convention on Torture from 1984:

"The United States participated actively and effectively in the negotiation of the Convention . It marks a significant step in the development during this century of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment. Ratification of the Convention by the United States will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today.

The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called 'universal jurisdiction.' Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 04/26/2009
- Imago I'm a Fan of Imago 74 fans permalink
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Reagan? Moral compass?

Iran-Contra, anyone?

Puleeze.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/16/2009
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I am sure terrorists will use this for their propaganda purposes. Way to go, Mr. Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/25/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 40 fans permalink

Terrorists and apparently our own countrymen. The flurry on Huffpo is an example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 04/26/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink


Typical ACLU.... always sticking up more for the criminals than they do the victims.

I wonder if they would be willing to take some of the prisoners at Gitmo because
Pres. Obama isn't having too much success trying to find another country to take them.

Why not give each one of them a million $'s and a big apology and send them back
to where they came from so they will be able to get back at us for being so terrible.

So many of the bleeding hearts are saying ....we don't torture...that is a joke...
Look at some of the police...and some parents... and bullies at school who cause some
kids to commit suicide.

I'm not saying the torture at Gitmo or other places was right, but It is done and
you can't take it back.....look forward and find other methods or else
just stop taking prisoners....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 04/25/2009
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It is easier for him to look back than to work on problems that are facing America today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 04/25/2009

What a ludicrous statement. Hes done more in his first 100 days in office than any other president since LBJ ..considering the mess that Bush left behind..C'mon now! Just about equivalent to LBJ steppinginto office during the Vietnam War after Kennedy was assassinated for Christ sake

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 04/27/2009
- Madbunny I'm a Fan of Madbunny 6 fans permalink

You don't see people who have been tortured as victims here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 04/27/2009
- kiran1207 I'm a Fan of kiran1207 9 fans permalink

I seriously have doubts that the 2 members that were tortured were even part of ALQUEDA, maybe they were coerced into admitting that. I do not trust BUSH/CHENEY admin and supporters at all. THe bottom line is we want to capture BINLADEN and we haven't yet, so this torture thing did not work they way Cheney is admitted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 04/25/2009

Clinton had the opportunity to take out Obama and the President Perjuror decided not to. Iif it wasn't for Clinton, 3,000 Americans would still be alive today. Let's investigate this and bring Clinton to indictment, trial, conviction and jail. Hey ACLU, how about filing suit against the government to turn over records of Clinton's malfeasance and conspiracy in the murder of 3,000 American citizens who, while living, were abiding by the U.S. Constitution?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 04/26/2009
- kiran1207 I'm a Fan of kiran1207 9 fans permalink

If someone tortured CHeney he would admit to 9/11 or COLUMBINE, torture doesn't give you accurate results. WHY does he think it works??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/25/2009
- kiran1207 I'm a Fan of kiran1207 9 fans permalink

all i want to know is if torture worked where's BINLADEN?? Cheney is a draft dodger, never served when he was called upon and wants to make up for it by torturing prisoners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 04/25/2009

Clinton did all of the above.....but you can add, perjury, lying to 80 million people on national television, wife cheating, sex perversion activities while in the oval office, and working secret financial deals with foriegn arab states. I am sure there is much more. And of course, the moral compass of the left allows and even champions the guy to appear as a featured speaker at their national party convention. The party of hypocracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/26/2009
- Imago I'm a Fan of Imago 74 fans permalink
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Hey, little rolly polly trolly!

I'll pick one out of the hat..."secret financial deals with foreign Arab states."

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 05/16/2009
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To vote for special prosecution go to:

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Nat_Petition_SpecialProsecutor&s_src=olcpage&s_subsrc=flyer

God help us.

The radical right certainly is'nt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 04/25/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 68 fans permalink

if you were afraid of bugs.......would i be torturing you with a room full of bugs that do not bite

if you are afraid of heights, i do your interview in a clear floored room 50' in the air

how about a woman interrogator in a bikini or maybe naked against a very religious man.......

where does your definition stop stretching where does it stop....... this country is turning into a bunch of cry babies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 04/25/2009

"By giving its advice and consent to ratification of this Convention, the Senate of the United States will demonstrate unequivocally our desire to bring an end to the abhorrent practice of torture." - Ronald Reagan

It isn't a partisan issue, it is a human and American issue. We indicted our own troops in the 19th century for waterboarding. We indicted Japanese soldiers after WWII for torture. We train our troops on how to resist waterboarding (torture according to SERE) because that is what our enemies do.

If you believe that it is alright to torture, please renounce your American citizenship and move to a country that believes it is acceptable. Because until the last administration, you would be hard pressed to find anyone on either side of the aisle that thought it was an American value.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 04/25/2009

Right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 04/27/2009
- LinkSync I'm a Fan of LinkSync 23 fans permalink
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The neobarbs will say, "New torture photos being released by Osama."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 04/25/2009

I am jaded, but I hope I live long enough to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsie, Wolfie, Rice, Gonzo, Beeb and the rest in the dock and being found guilty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 04/25/2009
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 80 fans permalink
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So do I, MrsFonebone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 04/25/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 68 fans permalink

you will not live that long....... give up all hope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/25/2009
- kiran1207 I'm a Fan of kiran1207 9 fans permalink

WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 04/25/2009

I intend to live long enough to see Obama, Reszco, Emmanuel, Frank, Dodd, Pelosi .....all indicted, put on trial, convicted and jailed for bankrupting the United States of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/26/2009
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Prez Obama is not blocking the investigation. Like the majority of us, he doesn't want to see justice at the Commissioner Level. I remember the investigation with the Bush administration (9/11). The Commissioners were apologizing for inconvienencing them. C. Rice nauseated me. They were too kind to them. No real hard questions were asked. I would like to see this played out in Court. Not within a Buddy Systefm. No justice will be served. I want to see ALL of them served and if they choose to ignor; I want to see the officers or who ever- go to their home and arrest them. I want to see a real Criminal trial. THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 04/24/2009
- yasmeen I'm a Fan of yasmeen 2 fans permalink

it's obvious obama wants to prosecute the bushes (because he keeps releasing shocking memos and soon some pictures to whip up anger), but not immediately. he wants to get all his legislation for energy, health care, etc., through congress first, because come 2010 he may not keep his current majority in both houses. he's VERY smart: pretends he doesn't want to "look back" , let public uproar pressure congress and then pretend to succumb to it which allows him to be mr. kumbaya who was forced to prosecute against his will when it's what he wanted all along.

had he just flat out decided to prosecute it would've looked like political payback and not many americans would be on board saying now isn't the time for this. smart man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 04/24/2009
- LinkSync I'm a Fan of LinkSync 23 fans permalink
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What happens to your theory when Democrats begine to fall as well?

I want EVERYONE that was involved held accountable, not just the administration clowns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 04/25/2009
- rick91 I'm a Fan of rick91 23 fans permalink
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Amen!
I agree, and I have no doubt that Obama's INTENTION is to do exactly as you describe - and exactly what we all want - he's just very smart about how and when to do it.
He's been in office for 3 months! All the impatience and doubting and hand-wringing is so stupid, unnecessary, and UNhelpful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 04/25/2009

I agree! He Is VERY smart!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 04/27/2009
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