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Fed says gov't ready to save stress-tested banks

DANIEL WAGNER   04/24/09 10:43 PM ET   AP

Stress Tests

WASHINGTON — The government signaled Friday that some distressed banks will need to raise more cash to meet stricter standards it has set for the 19 financial firms that took its "stress tests" and suggested it's ready to step in with more federal help.

Federal Reserve officials held top-secret meetings with bank executives to give them preliminary findings of how each bank would fare if the recession got much worse. It reinforced the Fed's view that major financial firms are "too big to fail," and that the government must do whatever is necessary to save them.

"It appears 'too big to fail' is a fundamental philosophy," said Mark Williams, a finance professor at Boston University and former Fed examiner.

Fed officials told reporters that all 19 banks will be required to keep an extra buffer of capital reserves beyond what is required now in case losses continue to mount. That means some banks will likely have to raise additional cash.

But the Fed stressed in a statement that a bank's need for more capital reserves to meet the requirements should not be considered a measure of the "current solvency or viability of the firm."

Senior Fed officials also told reporters that regulators will keep a close eye on banks to make sure they have adequate capital to withstand further losses on mortgages and other bad assets as the recession drags on.

The tests of the 19 financial firms, which hold half the loans in the American banking system, are a centerpiece of the Obama administration's financial rescue plan. They were intended to boost confidence in the banking system by giving investors signals about the relative strength of the nation's largest financial firms.

The Fed is also using the results to determine which firms need to raise more money or take other action to strengthen their positions.

The government plans to announce the results of the tests May 4. By law, the banks cannot publicize the results without the government's permission, and the Fed itself offered little new information Friday. But Wall Street buzzed with anticipation, and most financial stocks rose. The Dow Jones industrial average added more than 119 points to close at 8,076.

In New York, Gary Cohn, the president of Goldman Sachs, met with Fed officials inside the iron-barred Federal Reserve Bank of New York, a neo-Florentine fortress that sits atop the world's largest gold repository.

Hours later, John Mack, the CEO of Morgan Stanley, arrived in a silver sedan with dark-tinted windows, showed his identification to security and entered the building. He left about 45 minutes later.

Critics remained concerned that the tests have had the opposite effect of what the government intended _ creating uncertainty that feeds market instability.

"I really don't think this is going to add transparency to the system," said Linda Allen, a finance professor at Baruch College. She said the tests are similar to bank examinations that are done regularly to ensure banks have enough money to absorb further losses.

In the tests, the Fed put banks through two hypothetical scenarios for what might happen to the economy.

One scenario reflects forecasters' current expectations about the recession. It assumes unemployment will reach 8.8 percent in 2010 and house prices will decline by 14 percent this year. The second imagines a worse-than-expected downturn: Unemployment would hit 10.3 percent and house prices would drop 22 percent.

Recent economic indicators suggest the economy is approaching the more severe of the two, said Paul Miller, an analyst with Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co.

"The question is, will the market accept the stress test as a realistic case?" he said.

Regulators also used the tests to examine the quality of banks' loans and other assets, according to Fed officials.

The tests could be especially hard on regional banks because some of them hold massive portfolios of mortgage and other loans in areas that have been hit hard by the foreclosure crisis. By contrast, Wall Street brokerages like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley hold more of their assets in securities, which regulators feel have already been priced down in the market.

The Fed has several tools for shoring up bank finances. One is converting the Treasury Department's loans to the banks into shares of common stock. Another is forcing the banks to raise money in private markets or receive more money from Treasury's bailout fund.

In extreme cases, a rescue could include a government-backed merger, similar to what regulators did in helping Bank of America to buy Merrill Lynch and JPMorgan Chase & Co. to buy Bear Stearns.

Battling the worst financial crisis since the 1930s, the government has committed more than $11 trillion in loans, investments and other measures to prop up troubled institutions and stabilize the banking system.

For months, officials have put off questions about the banking system by saying they're awaiting the results of the tests. The delays have led investors to fret: If the tests show every bank to be strong, they will look like a whitewash and won't be taken seriously. Yet once investors can distinguish stronger from weaker banks, they could start fleeing from weaker banks.

News reports, including a confidential outline of the tests first reported by The Associated Press this week, led analysts to start handicapping which banks could fail. Friday's announcement put some of those fears to rest, underscoring that the Fed will not say any bank lacks the reserves it needs to survive.

The banks will have a few days to review the results and appeal any findings. Regulators will give them final results May 1, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.

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Associated Press Writer Jim Kuhnhenn and AP Business Writers Stevenson Jacobs and Tim Paradis in New York contributed to this report.

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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
10:48 PM on 04/25/2009
Obama is asking all federal workers for ideas on improving America!

This is EXACTLY the right thing to do!

Now lets ask some CAR DEALERS trying to get Loans from Wall Street what to do!

Lets ask some Students trying to get Loans from Wall Street what to do!

Lets ask Main Street Americans how to get lower credit card FEES and RATES from Wall Street what to do!

Now lets ask Main Street Americans who want to ReFi their Homes without giving Wall Street five or more years of POINTS (in Savings) to save 3/4ths %!

Lets ask Main Street Americans if they want to depend on Wall Street Bankers at ALL!

President Obama PLEASE Open a High Tech Government Internet Bank to serve Tens of Millions on Main Street! We want our FREEDOM from "Wall Street DECIDERS!"

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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
11:11 PM on 04/25/2009
Whatever happened to all the ideas/questions we all submitted initially, anyway? Was there a wrap-up of that? Maybe he needs to appoint some special task forces for each area you mention -- outreach groups, perhaps working with Biden.
10:20 PM on 04/25/2009
The world is watching

The public is giving an aapproval rating s on the fly> They arent reading the news in DEPTH and then thinking even deeper> IF THEY WERE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL THEY WOULD BE OUTRAGED even more than I>

LOYALTY MEANS TELLING THE TRUTH EVEN WHEN IT HURTS> I want PRES OBAMA TO SUCCEED BUT NOT THIS WAY WITH THE BANKS> IF OBAMA WANTS TO HELP THE BANKS THEN HELP THE REGIONAL BANKS NOT THE WALL STREET BANKS WHO THINK THEY ARE ABOVE HEAVEN>

People need to get informed and that means reading more than headlines or news they agree with read the opposition and see if there are merits to the opposition argument> follow the links>> dont make snap decsion based on what your heart feels>>>BY THE WAY I dont mean read the REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION PIECE AS THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET THISS ALL HAPPEN>>READ KRUGMAN>ROUBINI OR STIGL:ITZ OR JOHNSON (HE HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON "QUIET COUP")

THE WORLD IS WATCHING
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
10:32 PM on 04/25/2009
There are so many dark actors left behind for Obama to have to contend with. If we give him and Congress our fullest support in going against the banksters, like the public gave FDR support for his New Deal policies against the "money changers", then maybe we can change this.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
11:15 PM on 04/25/2009
Well said and lets hope Obama listens to Main Street Businesses, Americans, and Nobel Prize winners instead of Br_in W_shed Wall Street analysts whose beliefs put us in this CRISIS!
06:45 PM on 04/25/2009
Boy, there are a lot of people out here with blind faith. You are telling me we should trust the bankers that drove our economy in t the ditch.

This has never happened in a first world country in the last 100 years where the bankers and their boards did not pay a price.

Are Summers and Geithners bankers ? No ! Summers is an economist too as in Bernanke, who is more powerful than the president. BTW, Stiglitz has worked with banks as has Simon Johnson and the guy from the KC Fed who have said we are effectiviely in an oligarchy.

Now I hear Obama wants to screw the black farmers who have been fighting for decades and mistreated. He hopes they will take less than 5% of what was planned and not give them money in time for planting season

Ok, we know you are ready to dis working people ! We get it !
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Carolab
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07:09 PM on 04/25/2009
It's tragic. We must act.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
07:31 PM on 04/25/2009
TWO CHOICES:
Choice 1 = Status QUO:

1. WALL STREET RUNS AMERICA
2. WALL STREET GIVES each Senator $7.5 Million/4 years on average!
3. WALL STREET GIVES each House Member $1.86 Million/4 years on average
4. WALL STREET spills over into all of CORPORATE AMERICA:
-------------Health Care - Price Gouge Consumers
-------------OIL&GAS&COAL - Pollution without cost
-------------Insurance - Price Gouge Consumers - Ruin People and Companies
-------------Big Pharma - Price Gouge Consumers
-------------Predatory Mortgage Brokers - Ruin People’s Lives for Massive Fees
5. WALL STREET Incomes 400 Times Worker Incomes 2008 versus 20 Times in 1980!
6. WALL STREET stops regulation to continue their Trading TRICKS and Manipulations of Prices!

Choice 2 = Change to HONESTY and FAIRNESS

1. V0te Buying Eliminated - Clearing Agency: All Lobby and Corporate Funds Blindly Allotted
2. Pollution reduced through - Charge for Polluting our Environment
3. Maximize MPG, Home Energy Efficiency, Business Energy Efficiency to Reduce Oil Imports
4. Limit Corporate Incomes to 20 Time the Average Worker to improve Balances
5. Regulate Markets and Corruption in Government and Corporations
06:11 PM on 04/25/2009
A big credit union in South Florida just failed yesterday, Eastern Financial Credit Union.........
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Carolab
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11:13 PM on 04/25/2009
Bad real estate loans and securities investments. Find a credit union that is not exposed to this risk and park your money there.
05:10 PM on 04/25/2009
I'm sure glad I keep my money in a community bank...I like the people there!
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TJCole
02:41 PM on 04/25/2009
Of course save the banks, forsake the people..!

We are a government of the banksters, by the banksters, and for the banksters....not the people..!
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Carolab
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04:44 PM on 04/25/2009
And now, suddenly, we have missing bioweapon samples from Ft. Detrick. How timely. Nothing like a pandemic scare to stop the discussion about tor-ture prosecutions and bank heists.
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Carolab
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05:01 PM on 04/25/2009
Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick. As first reported in today's edition of The Frederick News-Post by columnist Katherine Heerbrandt, the investigators are from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade. Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. He said the only other detail he could provide is that the investigation is ongoing. Fort Detrick does not have its own CID office, Jones said, which is why Fort Meade's CID was brought in. Jones said he could not comment on when the investigation started. CID is responsible for investigating crimes where the Army is, or may be, a party of interest, according to the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command website. USAMRIID is the Army's top biodefense lab, where researchers study pathogens including Ebola, anthrax and plague.

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=89293
01:54 PM on 04/25/2009
President Obama is supposed to professorial. Well if so, how come he refuses to learn the lessons of history ?

There is recent history in Japan in particular !

Then there is Sweden, England, even Ronald Reagan's preparations against the banks, and of course the S & L's.

Obama is currently under the thrawl of the fiancial voodo types. Some at or that were at the IMF are saying we are behaving like a third world country. I think that is ultimately where some want the US. As a third world country !
02:07 PM on 04/25/2009
We are not doing what Japan did. And besides, name a country that has a rapidly aging population and a low birthrate that has flourished as Japan has over the last 19 years.

The internet is full of economists who want clicks. You think they are going to get clicks singing "Timmy B. Goode, GO GO, GO TIMMY GO"?

When Citigroup needs a new CEO, do you think Krugman will step up for his country? When BoA needs a new CEO, do you think Stiglitz will step up for his country? No, 'cause all they are is doom and gloomin', no luck at all, dust bowl'rs.
02:15 PM on 04/25/2009
Krugman and Stiglitz are economists, not bankers. I wouldn't hire them to do surgery either. It's a different set of skills.
01:43 PM on 04/25/2009
The World is Watching

Carollab is right : NATIONALIZATION is the right way to go: sure it will hurt as in depression butt it will give us a chance to clean the slate and start over will better banks>

read JAPAN FIX FOR THEIR BANKS THEN READ SWEDEN FOR THEIR BANKS>>

I WANT THE SHORTEST PATH TO RECOVERY WILL SOLVENT BANKS>>NOT THIS DRIP DRIP DRIP AND BAILOUT BAILOUT

SORRY READ AND THEN THINK

THE WORLD IS WATCHING
01:31 PM on 04/25/2009
The world is watching

Pres Obama is doing the wrong thing by propping up these insolvent banks> Either he is mesmerized by the glamor of hobnobbing with the shyster bankers or he is just stupid> While I think he is smart I think he is being stupid by propping up these banks especially with tax dollars which these folks dont want to pay taxes>

People if we are a capitalistic society why do you want to pay for failure?? These banks failed failed and failed>

Obama not only rewarding them for failure but he is always rewarding them for causing this crisis and for fraud> Who said CRIME doesnt pay? Tell them to look at Wall Street BANKERS>> THEY COMMIT FRAUD AND EMBEZZLEMENT AND GET REWARDED>

If these bankers are so bright and smart they caused their own problem and the collapse of our economy shouldn't they be smart enough to dig them and us out of the hole they caused??

Obama should be rewarding them with long jail sentence>> This is worse than MADOFF>

Get real people> Read more than the headlines on the news read the entire articles on the economy and the banks>

Paulson rush to the CONGRESS WITH A STICKUP TWO SHEET PAPER : GIVE ME SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS NO QUESTION ASKED>NO INVESTIGATION>NO REPRISAL> GIVE ME IMMUNITY>>NOW WHY??

I VOTED FOR OBAMA AND WILL SUPPORT HIM ON WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT>THE TREATMENT ON THESE INSOLVENT BANKS AREN'T RIGHT>

THE WORLD IS WATCHING
05:37 PM on 04/25/2009
I think you mean $750 BILLION Dollars...........
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01:03 PM on 04/25/2009
Bye Carolab,

But next Friday when the conclusive results of the stress tests come out you won't be posting here anymore.

Won't be any reason. You made "Nationalization" you thing here. You OWN it as you say.

And with all of your comments concerning your mistrust of Obama why would you enjoy anything else that may be positive that happens in the administration?

Remember, You said that anyone that accepts Obama economic plans "F*ck you". That's a lot of people here. Let's say 71%-86%.

You're only in the t.r0// demographics.
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
01:05 PM on 04/25/2009
I will post here, right, wrong, makes no difference to me. I post what I believe and I post information that I believe is important.
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01:12 PM on 04/25/2009
There won't be any issues of this sort again.

You didn't get Geithner. Obama is keeping him.

"Warren the Nationalator" wimped out.

a newwayforward is over.

It's over.

It was fun, right? Brought back some memories.

But it's gone, child, it's gone!
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01:14 PM on 04/25/2009
nah.

Your ideas are old now. It's been proven. You don't understand why people think the way they do. Remember your parents thought that?

Let Generation Jones have at it.
01:16 PM on 04/25/2009
The way we are handling the banks will return the bubble economy and cause a repeat of this behavior. This is the time we should be reinventing the financial industry to make sure it works properly.

Instead, we have decided to tranfer our treasury to them. If you are too big to fail, then what is your purpose ?

Does that mean you can take any risk and the government will back you up ?

Let's all head to Vegas if we cannot lose our shirts and only win ! I am sure most American's would like that.
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
01:22 PM on 04/25/2009
I think it's pretty clear "we" didn't decide anything. "We" were pretty unanimously opposed to the bailouts in the first place. Nobody listens to us. The banks are running the show.
12:59 PM on 04/25/2009
Bernanke and a handful of banks think they are more important than the country themselves. The Fed, which is a virtual private entity, has taken control over our Treasury and the economy. It is committing the country to generations of debt and transferring our money.

The Fed has taken unprecedented powers in support of a false economy. It is not a democratic institution.

Now, our President seems to be supporting this plutocratic and oligarchic state. The peoeple have not pushed back so it continues. No new or out of the box thinking here ! Just like with NAFTA and trade, the same old same old ! What' best for an elite few versus the country.

Bernanke might have extrorted Bank of America and covered up things, but Obama thinks he's great.
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
01:22 PM on 04/25/2009
Indeed.
12:25 PM on 04/25/2009
I don't know who this Megan person is, but she's stealing my stuff on THP - thank gawd:

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/04/tarp_cops.php
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12:29 PM on 04/25/2009
Really!

Glad somebody finally said it!
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
12:42 PM on 04/25/2009
Ms. Cardle and Forbes did not bother to report:

COP is empowered to hold hearings, review official data, and write reports on actions taken by Treasury and financial institutions and their effect on the economy.

Through regular reports, COP must:

* Oversee Treasury’s actions
* Assess the impact of spending to stabilize the economy
* Evaluate market transparency,
* Ensure effective foreclosure mitigation efforts
* And guarantee that Treasury’s actions are in the best interest of the American people.

Lastly, Congress has instructed COP to produce a special report on regulatory reform that will analyze “the current state of the regulatory system and its effectiveness at overseeing the participants in the financial system and protecting consumers.”

http://cop.senate.gov/about/

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That's more than "to watch where the TARP funds go and monitor their effectiveness, not lecture Congress on how hard to punish wayward bank executives."

Ms. Cardle isn't being honest.
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Carolab
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12:33 PM on 04/25/2009
Maybe you should check her background.

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/bio.php
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12:37 PM on 04/25/2009
Does her background dissuade from the content of the article?

Or is that just a red herring?
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12:23 PM on 04/25/2009
Nobody goes along with the ideology you have Carolab.

It's dead. Your cause is dead.
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Carolab
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10:36 PM on 04/25/2009
My ideology? What ideology? I'm not an ideologue; I have no "cause". I want to get rid of the control of a private banking cartel over our government and our lives, if that's what you mean.
Servility
Your opinion of me is none of my business...
12:15 PM on 04/25/2009
'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' - Ronald Reagan
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12:21 PM on 04/25/2009
"Second most terrifying..Ronald Reagan" ~Me
Servility
Your opinion of me is none of my business...
12:23 PM on 04/25/2009
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'- Ronald Reagan
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11:55 AM on 04/25/2009
Carolab is pouring gasoline on herself again, people.

Flammable.
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Carolab
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11:57 AM on 04/25/2009
You're talking to yourself, L I A R.
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11:59 AM on 04/25/2009
Careful before I phart in your general direction.
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11:58 AM on 04/25/2009
No smoking please.