Joshua Cartwright: Another Deadly Gunman "Severely Disturbed" Over Obama's Election

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04/27/09 06:33 PM

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Elizabeth Cartwright woke up at 9:30 in the morning on Saturday when her husband couldn't find the Clearasil.

Her husband Joshua "started an argument because he insisted that it was in her purse," according to the police report. She "told him that it was in the bathroom but her husband became increasingly upset."

The couple started brawling in their Florida apartment. Elizabeth managed to escape and get herself to a hospital and call the police, but Joshua didn't stop raging until after he had killed two sheriff's deputies at a gun range, and police officers shot him dead.

According to the police report, Elizabeth Cartwright said her husband "believed that the US Government was conspiring against him. She said he had been severely disturbed that Barack Obama had been elected President."

It isn't the first shooting incident in recent weeks after which a crazed gunman's political ravings have made headlines. On April 4, after Richard Poplawski killed three police officers, several of Poplawski's friends told the Associated Press that Poplawski "feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns."

From the Northwest Florida Daily News:

"None of it's logical, none of it makes sense," said interim Sheriff Ed Spooner on Sunday. "He'd obviously just got something else in his mind."

The AP reports that Cartwright exchanged fire with the deputies after being stunned with a Taser:

"When that Taser released after five seconds, he came up shooting," Interim Okaloosa County Sheriff Edward Spooner said.


"He went from just being disagreeable to using deadly force in a matter of seconds. It was a very aggressive move with a concealed weapon on his part."

Spooner said that between 30 and 40 rounds were exchanged between Cartwright and the two deputies.


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Elizabeth Cartwright woke up at 9:30 in the morning on Saturday when her husband couldn't find the Clearasil. Her husband Joshua "started an argument because he insisted that it was in her purse," a...
Elizabeth Cartwright woke up at 9:30 in the morning on Saturday when her husband couldn't find the Clearasil. Her husband Joshua "started an argument because he insisted that it was in her purse," a...
 
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- GritsJr I'm a Fan of GritsJr 16 fans permalink

Read the Heller opinion. Justice Scalia actually affirmed the NRA's insane argument that the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to stockpile firearms against our democratic government should it become "tyrannical" one day. These maniacs actually believe they have the right to shoot and kill law enforcement and other local, state and federal officials and that's what we're seeing play out with Richard Poplawski, Joshua Cartwright, Daniel Hayden, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/16/2009
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I really wish the Huff people would post more of the comments by conservatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 04/29/2009

I'm certain that when conservatives can comment more with intellectual honesty instead of constant repetition of tired old trollish talking points from Fox News et al, they will be published more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 04/29/2009
- djkrlsn I'm a Fan of djkrlsn 23 fans permalink

And why should I go to the Clinton News Network--or even worse MSNBC or its sister cable news station

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 04/30/2009
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How can you in all honesty read the posts here which are primarily the repetition of left wing talking points and then criticize conservatives comments as not being intellectualy honest?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 04/30/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 63 fans permalink
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I would gladly write some articles for HP, but sadly, because much of what I would say would challenge thier views, most of HP's readers would say that I am a brainwashed Freep who only watches FoxNews and listens to Rush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 04/29/2009
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Clearasil.? Goes to show you never know what can set off a nut bag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 04/28/2009
- Lovelydaze I'm a Fan of Lovelydaze 4 fans permalink
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Good grief!!!!!!

So he's carried around that anger over Obama for FIVE months??!

ANYTHING would have set him off that morning: burnt toast, lost sock, wet newspaper....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 04/29/2009

It' s shame to think for one second that the news reports are now taken as gospel... Have we forgotten to think for ourselves? There are many " nut cases ", but are we to believe: that it's ok to approach a possible armed man at a gun range when there was no threat presented by Mr. Cartwright. Why would the officers do such a thing.... Just over a year ago another officer was killed because after 5 hours the sherriffs dept. desided to storm the house.... Morris, the sherriff for the county of Okaloosa was convicted of stealing county funds...Has anyone considered that just maybe the Sherriff Dept. needs some training????? They seem to be making judgment calls they are not trained to make.....I can't wait ot see how this all plays out in the near future.. when the officers wifes and family come out of the shock of thier loss.... and start asking questions about how this could possibly happen....I think there will be wrongful death suits brought against the county by all concerned... formost the sherriffs dept should be concerned about the safety of the area and it's own men.... THINK... use our reason.... We will not let someone get away that has done wrong...But lets do things in a manner to which we all go to our families at night......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 05/25/2009

I remember when more than a few years back, I joined the NRA and the State Rifle assoc. because they offered training to be a firearms instructor for security personnel. I paid my dues and remained a member for about 3 years until I attended a gathering of members in a rural town. I'm glad I was armed. I was the only Black person there and the looks and comments I got that afternoon made me think.
If you want assualt weapons bans and all that other stuff. Organize Blacks and Hispanics to join the NRA in record numbers, and in a matter of months the general public will declare the NRA as Un-American and have its charter banned by the U.S. government.
That's how crazy this has become.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 04/28/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 63 fans permalink
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"I'm glad I was armed. I was the only Black person there and the looks and comments I got that afternoon made me think."

We have many different races in our chapters. Myself, I am mixed heritage Hispanic-Asian. I have never gotten or seen anyone get treated as you say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 04/29/2009
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 185 fans permalink
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And you wouldn't because being not-quite-BLACK you don't draw as much ire as an actual black man. When will other minorities grasp the fact blacks are the farthest from whiteness on the color spectrum and therefore attract more anger? There is no true comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 04/29/2009
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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OK, so you're worried about a president who may want to ban guns...and your response is to give him another good reason to want to???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 04/28/2009
- iamvalid I'm a Fan of iamvalid 8 fans permalink
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Zits gone wild.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 04/28/2009
- iamvalid I'm a Fan of iamvalid 8 fans permalink
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Republican 101.

Make a tinfoil hat. The government spy rays can't penetrate a tinfoil protective hat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 04/28/2009

I her tell dat obamer feller is aimin to take our guns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 04/28/2009
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Stereotyping! How very open minded and tolerant of you.

Hypocrisy is the word that comes to mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 04/28/2009
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LOL! That's funny. I love that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 04/28/2009
- ssfahrer I'm a Fan of ssfahrer 5 fans permalink

You ain't kiddin'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 04/28/2009
- wdmax I'm a Fan of wdmax 4 fans permalink
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People with underlying mental illnesses can not be categorized by the things they focus on. I could be anything from Obama to the price of peanuts that could set them off. What is becoming a disturbing aspect of these violent outbreaks is both the current frequency of the attacks and our inability to notice when a person is close to the edge of a violent outbreak. What do you do when a relative is starting to scare you with the things they are saying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 04/28/2009

Maybe you should re-read his wife's comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 04/28/2009
- kasinca I'm a Fan of kasinca 162 fans permalink
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According to the police report, Elizabeth Cartwright said her husband "believed that the US Government was conspiring against him. She said he had been severely disturbed that Barack Obama had been elected President."

There are people, teabagging people, who are just mad that we have a black president. They listen to hate mongers on radio and FAUX and they go over the edge. Someone should explain to them that it would require an amendment to the constitution to take their god loving guns away. The NRA needs to back off those lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/28/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 63 fans permalink
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Maybe it would help if Obama said he no longer supports renewing the AWB, banning concealed carry, limiting handgun purchases, requiring licensing and registration, or banning the mythical "ammunition for assault weapons".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 04/29/2009
- yoshi99 I'm a Fan of yoshi99 4 fans permalink
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I think my bigger concern is this guy's ability to obtain firearms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 04/28/2009
- fiorastar I'm a Fan of fiorastar 63 fans permalink
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Call your local crisis line and ask for help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/28/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

My biggest concern is TV Channels like Faux Noise, promoting self immolation and gun culture to create violence.

These psycho personalities like Beck and InShannity are sacrificing young misguided youth to destruction so they can make their millions. And they call themselves patriotic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 04/29/2009
- jdw1981 I'm a Fan of jdw1981 44 fans permalink
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Just another NRA member doing what comes naturally to him.

Quick, Holder, they need more guns!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/28/2009
- 700rpm I'm a Fan of 700rpm 6 fans permalink

Do you KNOW he was an NRA member? Or is this just a biased knee-JERK reaction?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 04/28/2009
- yoshi99 I'm a Fan of yoshi99 4 fans permalink
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Well, we know the NRA has lobbied vigorously for his right to have immediate access to firearms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 04/28/2009
- jaslyn I'm a Fan of jaslyn 23 fans permalink

So this is the mind set of the Repub fan base? Crazies who get upset over Clearasil and go out and shoot people? o...kaaaaay

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/28/2009

The Bush government was after me and I didn't do anything like that. Us ant-rightists use things like stinging repartee, nice smiles, and blogging under made-up names to fight back.
Hard Right is a scary place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 04/28/2009
- djkrlsn I'm a Fan of djkrlsn 23 fans permalink

so is the less than progressive "progressive" movement

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 04/30/2009
- 24kgold I'm a Fan of 24kgold 58 fans permalink
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Why are the attacking the police and killing their families? I feel sorry for the police they are walking on thin ice, they are gonna start shooting first and asking questions later. Something need to be done like yesterday. I find myself asking my coworkers hey are you okay today, how is life treating you? I be on the look out when someone get fired at work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/28/2009

that is smart and kind. compassion such as that can fuel a turnaround for individuals who are on the edge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 04/28/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 569 fans permalink
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When you have the media fostering this kind of paranoia (Faux mostly, but even CNN and other outlets, just to make a quick buck by scaring people...) and millions of poorly-educated, low-IQ "I don't wanna pay taxes!" wIngnuts, this is what you get...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 04/28/2009
- goldnchyl I'm a Fan of goldnchyl 9 fans permalink
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... and that is it in a nutshell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/28/2009
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You're right , Amanda. Those type of people don't want anything to do with our President for whatever reason, and they refuse to listen to the facts. At least they could go on their own fact-finding missions without the aide of any tv media. Go to the library, research and read! But they are so consumed by hatred, they won't listen to reason!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 04/28/2009
- OdinsEye I'm a Fan of OdinsEye 63 fans permalink
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"and they refuse to listen to the facts. "

You mean like the fact that Obama's campaign webiste, his Whitehouse website, and the DNC's website all called for renewing the AWB?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/29/2009
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Obviously disturbed. It would almost be funny except for the 2 dead police officers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/28/2009
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