Stimulus Blunted By State Budget Shortfalls: Study

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A new report finds that a keystone of the Obama administration's effort to end the recession -- the $787 billion stimulus package -- will be significantly hampered by budget shortfalls in state and local governments, and that another round of stimulus spending might be necessary to counteract the housing crash.

The report (PDF) by the Center for Economic and Policy Research says that state and local budget deficits to the tune of $100 billion a year will offset the stimulative effect of the president's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Stimulus dollars used to cover deficits will have no stimulative effect, and the benefit of stimulus money well-spent will be offset if states increase taxes or decrease spending to close budget gaps, the report says.

State budget shortfalls "are bigger than anticipated because the downturn's steeper," said the report's author, Dean Baker, in an interview with the Huffington Post. "The downdraft is greater so the net effect of the stimulus ends up being less."

According to the report, the "net impact of government actions on the economy will be limited and will be a full magnitude of order smaller than the size of the $2.1 trillion demand shortfall created by the collapse of the housing bubble. The falloff in demand could be as much as 15 times the net average annual stimulus implied by ARRA and could leave the U.S. with a net impact as low as 1.1 to 0.7 percent of GDP for 2009 and 2010 respectively."

In March, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the stimulus bill would increase GDP
"between 1.4 percent and 3.8 percent by the fourth quarter of 2009" and "between 1.1 percent
and 3.4 percent by the fourth quarter of 2010."

Baker said that considering the political difficulty of securing a bigger stimulus package, he doesn't necessarily fault the Obama administration for the size of the ARRA. But he doesn't understand why officials are trying to hearten Americans with talk of economic "green shoots."

"The best thing you can say is the rate of decline is going to slow," Baker said. "If you add up the fall-off of consumption, the fall off of construction in the residential and non residential sectors, that sum is almost ten times as large as the sum coming from the government."

Economists and even businesses have long argued that the stimulus is too small.

"We've been in I-told-you-so territory for a long time," Baker said, adding that the nation will likely take another firm step into ITYST when the Department of Labor releases its unemployment statistics for the month of April.

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A new report finds that a keystone of the Obama administration's effort to end the recession -- the $787 billion stimulus package -- will be significantly hampered by budget shortfalls in state and lo...
A new report finds that a keystone of the Obama administration's effort to end the recession -- the $787 billion stimulus package -- will be significantly hampered by budget shortfalls in state and lo...
 
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- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 172 fans permalink
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Stimulus money is good if it generates demand followed by real recovery. Our biggest problem is with what follows down the road. Judging by reactions of large American companies they are making any real recovery either weak or delayed. Laying people off, exporting American jobs and other corporate measures may be good for those corporations but they are not good for the "economy". When are we Americans going to realize that the problem in which we find ourselves is caused exactly by corporations doing what is their best interest? What is the in the interest of capitalist classes is not necessarily in the interest of American commonweal. The interests have been rapidly diverging in the age of capital hypermobility; there is hardly any overlap left. But our whole system still runs under a mistaken belief that what is the in the interest of Business is in the interest of the rest of us. This was never true, least of all now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 05/05/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 97 fans permalink
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I think most of the folks here realized this about the time Reagan took office and invited Uncle Milty to be his economics guru.
combine these voodoo economics, destruction of the biosphere and selling off/out all the resources in this country and we're are facing back to the Dark ages times.

The problem, Oh sposton, is not in the stars or in ourselves, it is in our congress critters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/05/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 172 fans permalink
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Why are Americans suckered into voting for democrats and republicans while expecting different results than we are getting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 05/05/2009
- jerrypl I'm a Fan of jerrypl 53 fans permalink
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The states must have a balanced budget. With growing un-underemployment, consumers tightening their spending belt, and businesses closing down states are not getting the revenues they had in the past. Therefore, states will have to decrease their budgets, or raise taxes. This will create even further hardships. The stimulus may have some positive short term effects until it dries up. This economic downturn will likely get worse and will definitely be the beginning of a New American Paradigm changing the way of life in America.

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 05/05/2009

But Paul Volcker said, just last week, that another stimulus would probably not be needed. I find the economic double-speak and head-in-the-sand optimism coming from DC and Wall Street less than candid, to say the least, and if I weren't wary of conspiracy theory, I'd be tempted to call it a deliberate "baffle them with bullshit" strategy meant to continually kick the can down the road, just one step ahead of public comprehension. It won't work. The natives are getting very restless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/05/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 97 fans permalink
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Well, THEY aren't suffering and they couldn't give a sh*t about us.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/05/2009

Without the stimulus bill the contraction in the economy would be even greater. It is too small to offset the decline in non-government sectors, but it is better than nothing.

This country is in a depression and the federal government needs to be much more aggressive or we will stay in a depression.

http://wwwesacapethenewgreatdepression.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 05/04/2009

I live in North Dakota and we have a budget surplus this year and our state is underfunding our budget and taking that cash and giving tax breaks to home owners then making up the under budgeting by using the cash the fed is giving us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/04/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 75 fans permalink
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It's a lot easier when you have a population of less than 700k and largely rural.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 05/04/2009
- swo68 I'm a Fan of swo68 14 fans permalink

Since they're a lot more responsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 05/05/2009
- bayroad22 I'm a Fan of bayroad22 2 fans permalink

Obama was lucky to get any stimulus money from the Rep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 05/04/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 405 fans permalink
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Seriously, he barely got the $787 Billion passed, not to mention the Repubs watered down the bill for tax cuts that should have been put towards more infrastructure projects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/04/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 75 fans permalink
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They still maintain that there should have been no stimulus. They are nothing but mindless windbags.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/04/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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The stimulus is not creating and saving jobs in MN. More teachers getting axed! No big construction projects scheduled! A hand full of road surface jobs by low bidders is all! The higher education system gets tons of money to create new classes yet K-12 teachers getting axed left and right. A few cops got saved. State and municiple and property taxes increasing tenfold compared to the Obama tax cuts!!!! They refuse to cut back on all departments in the state level so they are socking it to us everyway they can. Commissioners take raises, Atty General buys 2- $14,000 doors and office remodel and courthouses gets remodels. Rat labor and court fees also just took a HUGE hike.

No the stimulus is proving to not work as intended. See all the mortgage modification fraud going on also! It is not saving homes or jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 05/04/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 405 fans permalink
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The stimulus passed when, the end of February? You sure expect alot in two months time, not to mention it was never supposed to fix all of your State's problems. You need to be talking to your Governor about what he is doing with the Stimulus funds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/04/2009
- catbutt I'm a Fan of catbutt 2 fans permalink

It's nice that you are so upset with how the money is being spent in your state. I agree... IT"S EASY to sit and type about problems.

HOW many times this year have you protested or sent a letter to your congressman?

The only way anything gets done in Washington is IF we hold our elected officials accountable.

Our countrymen will loose if we have career politicians running this country, from either side.

AND

To all those nice republicans who read this stuff........

Democrats LOVE lower taxes...... We just know it has to end sometime. If we didn't pay any taxes, the US would be no more.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/04/2009

"Democrats LOVE lower taxes......"

That's the funniest things I've read in 6 months.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 05/05/2009
- notAMoron I'm a Fan of notAMoron 5 fans permalink

On the one hand you are upset about the awarding contracts to the lowest bidder (I am sure if they didn't go to the lowest bidder we would be hearing about how they are padding some politician's cousin's pocket).

On the other hand you are upset that the court house was remodeled, which I am sure created jobs for a carpenter, maybe an electrician, and maybe a plumber.

You just can't win with some people?

P.S. What is "rat labor?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/05/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 54 fans permalink
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I have to disagree with this group. The provisions in the stimulus package as well as the committee reviewing the states, have specific areas where the money can be used. For instance, VA. the Gov. wanted to use the money to pay down the debt and he was told no.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/04/2009
- Tahut I'm a Fan of Tahut 7 fans permalink
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Odd isn't it, those repuglican gov's don't understand with every person working at a job that pays close to union wages means tons of money in the state treasury to keep the state solvent. Too bad they don't get it because if they continue to appease business interest over the public's need for jobs with adequate wages and benefits, they'll have the same problem next year - not enough cash to pay for services and to pay off their debts. And there may not be enough interest by Congress or the White House to give them an audience to plead their case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 05/05/2009
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 30 fans permalink
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Old news

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 05/04/2009
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 27 fans permalink

NC put all teachers and state employees on furlough..­...basical­ly the state took the money that Obama gave us.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 05/04/2009

welcome to big government... Bev already robbed the lottery fund and the reserve funds...no surprise there

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/04/2009
- Tahut I'm a Fan of Tahut 7 fans permalink
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If you read The Shock Doctrine you'll see were the repuglican Congress took advantage of New Orleans just after Katrina hit and undercut the city's effort to re-establish their school system. They either allowed or mandatedCharter Schools so they could get their foot in the door without a fight using a voucher system. They only hired a few of the young teachers from the old school system, but at substantially reduced salaries. The net result was a corporate school system using voucher system to provide educational instruction in a city that was trying to drag itself out of the muck. Of course they were forcing parent to hand over extra money because the vouchers never do cover the entire costs. Welcome to the land repuglicans call Merica!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 05/05/2009
- sammy cole I'm a Fan of sammy cole 2 fans permalink

Im nervous as can be about all this borrowing and debt, there has been no stimulus for the populus because of the enormous tax increases (California), everyone is falling further behind...the fed govt gives us 8 bucks a week and the states takes back 10. Im no longer sure what it means when the Fed Govt talks about 'stimulus'. Stimulus for WHOM? For WHAT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 05/04/2009

and we get to pay back the 8 bucks too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 05/04/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 54 fans permalink
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At least you are getting something back, stop complaining life could be alot worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 05/04/2009
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