Democrats Accused Of Using Hate Crime Bill To Protect Pedophiles (VIDEO)

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05/ 6/09 06:57 PM

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The new, new thing in criticizing Hate Crimes legislation is to pretend that the Democrats have gone and given a whole bunch of special considerations or legal protections to pedophiles. That's the case that Representative Peter Steve King made to a suppliant Sean Hannity yesterday:

HANNITY: We're running out of time. Is it safe to say that Democrats were willing to protect pedophiles but not offer the same protection to servicemen and women? Is that an accurate statement?

KING: Sean, it is a matter of congressional record. Absolutely true -- beyond any doubt whatsoever. The recorded votes are there to prove just what you've said. They -- and on top of that, [Rep.] Alcee Hastings [D] from Florida, that spoke on the rules debate, and he read a list of about 30 different paraphilias -- proclivities, I call them -- including pedophiles, necrophilia, and a number of things that I wouldn't say on this program or any other. And he said I think all philias whatsoever should be protected by this law. That means every perversion that you can imagine would be special protected status under the Democrats' bill that passed off the -- floor of the House of Representatives.

Watch the video here.

OK, in the first place, Representative King needs to get his head examined, brusquely, by some sort of pneumatic hammer. Ryan Grim made note of Alcee Hastings' little bit of Congressional theater, which was done to demonstrate that "every perversion that you can imagine" WOULD NOT BE PROTECTED BY THE HATE CRIMES ACT.

But more to the point, this has nothing to do with pedophiles receiving special legal benefits. This has to do with King's attempt to assert an equivalency between homosexuality and "perversion." Really, this is entirely ancillary to the issue of hate crime legislation itself.

Let's take a look at the relevant Congressional testimony:

KING: This amendment goes to the end of the bill, and it simply says, since we have apparently waived the reading of it, which I do -- it's very short -- it says, "The term sexual orientation as used in this act or any amendments to this act does not include pedophilia." And we've gone through in this debate significant discussion about what sexual orientation means and does not mean. And yet I have not heard from the proponents of this bill into the record a definition of sexual orientation.

I would like to have defined sexual orientation precisely. I recognize, Mr. Chairman, it's unlikely that we will get that done in this committee given the reticence on the part of the majority party to consider any of the changes that we've offered here -- I think in a fashion that is determined to bring this bill out of this committee. And I'm frustrated that we're not able to add better definitions to the ambiguous terms to lock people up in penitentiaries if this bill becomes law.

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And, so, this amendment that I have addresses the issue of pedophiles. And under the term "sexual orientation," if it includes those types of proclivities, particularly the one that is most egregious of all -- and that is victimizing children for the sake of sexual activity with them -- the pedophiles should not be protected under this legislation if we're able to adopt this language that's in my amendment. So, my amendment does not specifically define sexual orientation, although I've tried to do that.

But what it does do is say it doesn't include pedophiles, because I think the intent of this committee is clearly that we don't want to provide a, let's just say, special-protected status, for pedophiles. There are others that I would put in that list as well, but this is the one that stands out to me. It should be beyond question that this committee should be able to take a look at this amendment and conclude that whatever we might think about proclivities, pedophiles is not one that should be included. And, so, that's what my -- I'd yield.

See, to King, "sexual orientation" lacks a legal definition, and so, barring specificity, how can anyone be sure that we're not accidentally cutting in pedophiles or necrophiles -- or corpophiles like King! -- in on some sweet, sweet, hate crime protection. The only problem here is that sexual orientation has heretofore been given a legal definition, and, appropriately, it's a very narrow one, enunciated with crystal clarity by Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin, moments later:

KING: And so I would urge adoption of my amendment that defines clearly that whatever sexual orientation is, it is not, and does not include pedophiles. And with that, Mr. Chairman, I'd urge adoption of my amendment, and I would yield back the balance of my time.


BALDWIN: Thank you Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the last word in opposition to this amendment, that, well -- the gentleman claims that we have not pinned down the definition for sexual orientation. And, indeed, in our earlier session, yet today, I drew his attention to the fact that there is a definition with regard to the Hate Crimes Statistics Act. During the break, I searched to just confirm that what I had articulated earlier today was indeed the definition and it is: "Sexual orientation is means consensual homosexuality or heterosexuality." That is the definition.

Now, as you've noted earlier, there's only one term defined in this legislation, and that's gender identity on page 14. And the reason for that is that that definition exists nowhere else in federal law. This is the first time it's occurring in federal law. But in every other case, gender disability, sexual orientation, race, national origin, color, and -- I'm missing one. The architecture of the hate crime statutes in the United States is those definitions do not lay within that architecture. They exist elsewhere in federal law, and we rely on them. So there is a clear, concise definition of sexual orientation.

Baldwin goes on to note:

Your amendment is unnecessary and, I would add, inflammatory in terms of insinuations, I would say. But given the definition of sexual orientation meaning "consensual homosexuality or heterosexuality," it is absolutely clear that that could not include pedophilia.

So there you have it! Either King is making nimrod-hash out of a serious issue because the vagaries of Congressional testimony are just obtuse enough to fool a clown like Sean Hannity, or King just doesn't understand plain English. Either way, no hate crimes protections have been extended to pedophiles, and the insinuation that pedophilia and homosexuality are somehow linked remains a quaint notion, unsupported by scientific research, the end.

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The new, new thing in criticizing Hate Crimes legislation is to pretend that the Democrats have gone and given a whole bunch of special considerations or legal protections to pedophiles. That's the c...
The new, new thing in criticizing Hate Crimes legislation is to pretend that the Democrats have gone and given a whole bunch of special considerations or legal protections to pedophiles. That's the c...
 
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You do have to wonder, though, why the Rules Committee defeated language that would have spelled out that this bill would not protect pedophiles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 05/28/2009
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It is troubling, however, that the commitee defeated language that would have specifically excluded pedophiles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/28/2009
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P.S. Examine his head? You might as well spelunk a black hole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 05/09/2009
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Whenever I hear anyone on Fox use the words 'beyond any doubt whatsoever' I know they're about to lie to me in the most shameless and extravagant way. With infotainment like this, who needs the dark ages?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 05/09/2009
- nivek I'm a Fan of nivek 4 fans permalink
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Pathetic, Steve King, just pathetic. Will someone please unseat this monster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 05/07/2009
- tierone I'm a Fan of tierone 44 fans permalink
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So. They want it to be okay to murder or beat up to the brink of death a pedophile?

That's the option? Either let them go free or assault them?

Don't we have an option of arresting and convicting?

Oh, wait, that's First World behavior. Hannity thinks medival behavior and mob rule is okay.

Nevermind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/07/2009
- ralph10 I'm a Fan of ralph10 22 fans permalink
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Saw the picture of King and that's as far as I needed to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/07/2009
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What does that mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 05/28/2009
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these, my friends, r the sounds of hysteria and desperation
or maybe of scraping the bottom of the barrel!
so ridiculous its almost funny

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 05/07/2009

I would think Republicans would want this protection, considering how many of them are hiding in the closet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/07/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 35 fans permalink
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on the 4 floor someone went over all the phillias, necro and the like so show examples of what is not protected in the bill,
this guy, slid into the pedophillia and drew a false connection to confuse the debate, their whole goal is to confuse the debate so nothing is done. so nothing is corrrected. everything remains the same unless they feel it is ok to switch
What i say is this, to target innocent people for violence, people who are going about their lives and not messing with yours, to seek out people for their differences and attack them SHOULD BE
singled out as something more than regular assault, to target anyone Jews, Italians, Irish, African Americans, Chinese, mexicans, gays, blondes, etc, should fall under special circumstances. there is a different immoral motivation behind these acts,
truthfully though the hate crimes bill is designed to keep people from targeting classes of people traditionally discriminated against in this country, AND THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A GOOD THING

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 05/07/2009
- bogues I'm a Fan of bogues 31 fans permalink

I continue to pray that the American people will reject the hate and fear that is served daily by the people at FOX NEWS. It is distrurbing at this point that Sean Hannity is going so far in his vicious lying and distorting of the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/07/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 35 fans permalink
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these peopel are the biggest lyers and truthtrwister i have ever seen andthey are just bolder n bolder with it, i mean it is so blatant, and to think peopel watch them allthe time, and without other refrences one would think the nation is completely crazy, when it is actually fox news and the whole RNC, that are the looney tunes,
paranoid, schitzo's w power and a tv camera,
can u say "fire in a crowded theatre"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/07/2009
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 9 fans permalink

It's an interesting philosophical (or legal) question that has nothing to do with these haters. That is, why isn't the state attaching a hate law enhancement to cases where a murderer murders someone because they are presumed to be a pedophile? This makes a lie to the argument that hate crime laws have nothing to do with speech. We push certain agendas as a state even as we refuse to recognize others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 05/07/2009
- bedfordny I'm a Fan of bedfordny 98 fans permalink

If they keep saying the same lie over and over I guess they are hoping that people will imagine they are hearing the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 05/07/2009
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yeah; both of them might still be gullible....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 05/07/2009

Are these people just liars or are they incapable of comprehending what they hear and read?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 05/07/2009
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