David McKiernan Steps Down From Top Afghanistan Command Post

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PAULINE JELINEK and ANNE GEARAN | May 11, 2009 09:22 PM EST | AP

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Defense Secretary Robert Gates, left, accompanied by Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen, meets reporters at the Pentagon, Monday, May 11, 2009. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama fired the top U.S. general in Afghanistan on Monday, replacing him with a former special forces commander in a quest for a more agile, unconventional approach in a war that has gone quickly downhill. With the Taliban resurgent, Obama's switch from Gen. David McKiernan to Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal suggests the new commander in chief wants major changes in addition to the additional troops he's ordering into Afghanistan to shore up the war effort.

McKiernan, on the job for less than a year, has repeatedly pressed for more forces. Although Obama has approved more than 21,000 additional troops this year, he has warned that the war will not be won by military means.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates echoed that view at a grim Pentagon news conference announcing the leadership overhaul. "As I have said many times before, very few of these problems can be solved by military means alone," he said. "And yet, from the military perspective, we can and must do better."

"It's time for new leadership and fresh eyes."

A new team of commanders will now be charged with applying Obama's revamped strategy for challenging an increasingly brutal and resourceful insurgency. The strategy, still a work in progress, relies on the kind of special forces and counterinsurgency tactics McChrystal knows well, as well as nonmilitary approaches to confronting the Taliban. It would hinge success in the seven-year-old war to political and other conditions across the border in Pakistan.

McKiernan, named to his post by former President George W. Bush, had expected to serve into next year but was told he was out during Gates' visit to Afghanistan last week.

Gates said he asked for McKiernan's resignation "with the approval of the president." The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, and McKiernan's military boss, Gen. David Petraeus, both said they supported the switch.

The White House said the recommended change came from the Pentagon.

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"The president agreed with the recommendation of the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that the implementation of a new strategy in Afghanistan called for new military leadership," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said in a statement.

McChrystal is a former special forces chief credited with nabbing one of the most-wanted fugitives in Iraq. Taking a newly created No. 2 slot under his command will be Lt. Gen. David Rodriguez, a veteran of the Afghanistan fight who has been Gates' military shadow, the top uniformed aide who travels with him everywhere.

By year's end, the United States will have more than 68,000 troops in the sprawling country _ about double the total at the end of Bush's presidency but still far fewer than the 130,000 still in Iraq.

McKiernan and other U.S. commanders have said resources they need in Afghanistan are tied up in Iraq.

Although Obama had pledged to add forces in Afghanistan while shutting down the Iraq war, his new administration has sought firmer control over the pace and scope of any new deployments. Gates and Mullen have both warned Obama that a very large influx of U.S. troops would be self-defeating.

Asked if McKiernan's resignation would end his military career, Gates said, "Probably." But he praised the general's long service, and when pressed to name anything McKiernan had failed to do, Gates demurred.

"Nothing went wrong, and there was nothing specific," he said.

Gates, too, was appointed to his position by former President George W. Bush. He noted that the Afghan campaign has long lacked people and money in favor of the Bush administration's focus since 2003 on the Iraq war.

"But I believe, resources or no, that our mission there requires new thinking and new approaches from our military leaders," he said. "Today we have a new policy set by our new president. We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador. I believe that new military leadership also is needed."

McKiernan issued a short statement in Kabul.

"All of us, in any future capacity, must remain committed to the great people of Afghanistan," McKiernan said. "They deserve security, government that meets their expectations, and a better future than the last 30 years of conflict have witnessed."

In June 2006 Bush congratulated McChrystal for his role in the operation that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq. As head of the special operations command, McChrystal's forces included the Army's clandestine counterterrorism unit, Delta Force.

He drew criticism for his role in the military's handling of the friendly fire shooting of Army Ranger Pat Tillman _ a former NFL star _ in Afghanistan. An investigation at the time found that McChrystal was "accountable for the inaccurate and misleading assertions" contained in papers recommending that Tillman get a Silver Star award.

McChrystal acknowledged he had suspected several days before approving the Silver Star citation that Tillman might have died by fratricide, rather than enemy fire. He sent a memo to military leaders warning them of that, even as they were approving Tillman's Silver Star. Still, he told investigators he believed Tillman deserved the award.

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Associated Press writers Pauline Jelinek in Washington and Jason Straziuso in Kabul contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama fired the top U.S. general in Afghanistan on Monday, replacing him with a former special forces commander in a quest for a more agile, unconventional approach...
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama fired the top U.S. general in Afghanistan on Monday, replacing him with a former special forces commander in a quest for a more agile, unconventional approach...
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- PSM42 I'm a Fan of PSM42 20 fans permalink
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WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT, ALFIE?

Pepe Escobar - REBRANDING THE LONG WAR, Part 1
Obama does his Bush impression - http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE08Df02.html

Part 2 - Balochistan is the ultimate prize - Asia Times - http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/Escobar.html

Real News - search for 'Pepe', _not_ complete - http://therealnews.com/t/index.php

ALFIE - Michael Caine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48oLsDImC5A

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 05/12/2009
- Manx I'm a Fan of Manx 19 fans permalink

It is hard to believe that Gates would choose General McChrystal, who was a key figure in the Pat Tillman scandal. He lied about Corporal Tillman's qualifications for a Silver Star because he knew all the time that Tillman had been killed by his fellow soldiers. Obama okayed the replacement of McKiernan with McChrystal, even though he knew about McChrytal's involvement in the Tillman scandal. Obama wants to look forward, not backward, when it serves his purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 05/12/2009
- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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Well, who was it that wrote the cover-up of the MaiLai massacre?

I think the purpose is just what they say it is, he brings the specific skill set to the challenges that need to be addressed, in a very dangerous, volitile situation.

Let's hope he is successful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 05/12/2009

"Today we have a new policy set by our new president. We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador."

Mr Gates, please be specific about the new strategy and the new mission. Key word is specific. You won't and never will.

Truth be told, which far left folks refuse to believe, Afghan is a disaster - nothing more than expanding the (dying) empire. We want that real estate and by g*d, we are going to get it. Innocent casualties be d*mned.

B*stfurd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 05/12/2009
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 16 fans permalink

This guy wouldn't have succeeded anyway. Nobody will "succeed" without a well-defined morally sound mission from the top.

We should have rebuilt the infrastructure of Afghanistan and gotten them on track quickly, then left the country. We should have just focused on them and left. But, instead, geniuses decided to attack Iraq and let Afghanistan rot, at least until that Trans-Siberian oil pipeline got started just recently. All just to benefit the U.S. oil companies, like Iraq. And oilmen ran our country at that time. Hmmmm...

The current Pres of Pak is saying Osama is dead, and General Petreus said al-Queda is not in Afghanistan. Just why are we there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 05/12/2009
- iridium53 I'm a Fan of iridium53 55 fans permalink

it appears that McChrystal long ago abandoned the ideals of the USMA honor code - as proved by his actions in the Tillman incident.

With McChrystal in charge, we'll now have even less reason to believe the reports from Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 05/11/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 65 fans permalink

A man who has tortured and lied will be the new commander in Afghanistan.

Some change, President Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 05/11/2009

It doesn't matter how many troops are sent into a "cultural" war. Those people have an agenda.

Also, why can't they find a qualified commander of color? Someone else needs to get a chance of being in charge of one of these regions too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 05/11/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 65 fans permalink

McChrystal also has no problem ordering his people to use torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 05/11/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

Ask Russia how to lose this war.
Putin likely reads "NATO"- Afghanistan news
from time to time for a good laugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/11/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 65 fans permalink

No doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 05/11/2009
- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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We won't be fighting against the US, as was the Soviet Union. This is no longer a proxie war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 05/12/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

Good point, if true.
So no one is supplying the Taliban. Al Qeada or the extremists in Pakistan?
Where do they get their resources?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 05/14/2009
- Matt7 I'm a Fan of Matt7 242 fans permalink

What was McKiernan up to?

Generals just don't get canned like this, at this level.

His "eyes" must have been pretty "stale."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/11/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 73 fans permalink
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Do you want a list of all the 'high level generals' canned since the invasion of Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/11/2009
- magic3400 I'm a Fan of magic3400 9 fans permalink
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I don't have any background on this, I my military hunch is that Gen. McChrystal is a Special Ops guy and Gen. McKiernan is a big stick regular Army type.

Gen. McKiernan wanted way more troops than the President is sending, Gen. McChrystal will be looking to do more with less, asking Spec. Ops. Command to carry more of the load.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/11/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

Agreed.

Yet the Afghan tribal mountain war is all 'special ops...
But they have the home court advantage...
while we're trying to train our troops the care, feeding, and packing of mules!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/11/2009
- David Dial I'm a Fan of David Dial 5 fans permalink
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What? Your knowledge of the history of Generals is pretty weak buddy. Brush up on the Civil War and the Korean War. If you still think generals don't get the boot, get back to me and I'll give you more examples.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/11/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 73 fans permalink
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http://washingtonindependent.com/42441/the-dark-mcchrystal
Obama appoints a torture promoter: re. General McChrystal,
"The problem is, along the way they faced accusations of running a secret camp that tortured prisoners, and they were implicated in at least two detainee deaths during torture sessions. Their camp, called Camp Nama, became something of a lightning rod after a “computer malfunction” destroyed upwards of 70% of their records and an investigation into their conduct stalled out"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/11/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 31 fans permalink

Sheez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/11/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

I don't know, maybe I was absent from school the day they went over the chapter or something.
I've never heard of a war that has neither won, lost or stalemated.
Military wars are either won ( WW 2 ), lost ( Nam ) or stalemated ( Korea ).
This business of sending additional troops to a place and a war that you KNOW you CAN'T win stinks to high heaven; NAM REDUX.
Barack is falling into the same trap Jack Kennedy fell into; the Brass is selling him a bill of goods and he's going along with them; not because he thinks it's the right and smart thing to do ( I've got to believe that a man as smart as Barack can recognize the obvious ), but because he's a young President without any military experience and doesn't want to piss off the Brass.
The Great Sun Tzu said thus : ' When you do battle, even if you are winning, if you continue for a long time it will dull your forces and blunt your edge ........ ' ; ' It is NEVER beneficial to a nation to have military operations continue for a long time '.
Beware of those who oversell their points of view and do not offer balanced advise, they are the ones who stear nations on the wrong path; as we have witnessed over the years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/11/2009
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...this conflict is not intended to be won by our military.. just fought. The battlefield will slowly shift south down the east coast of Africa.. Somalia perhaps

Guess who the real "winner$" are?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/11/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Except, that wars without a clear winner that clearly benefits financially over the long term are a net loss for the nation that fights them. They debilitate the nation from within and from without ( maybe that's why Clemenceau said that wars are too important to be left to the Generals ).
We've been in 4 wars now that fit that description ( Korea, Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan ).
Look at our National Debt as a percentage of GDP; it has clearly gotten way out of hand.
We have clearly reached an age where Empires are no longer beneficial nor possible ( folks are not as docile as they once were - nobody likes to be taken advantage of and be be told how to live their lives ).
That lesson hasn't set in yet at our highest levels, we still hold to a middle 20th. Century mentality that we can march in and takeover wherever and whenever we want, those days are gone ; maybe at some point the lesson will set in.
I just hope we won't go flat broke before that day arrives, wars can't be fought on the cheap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 05/12/2009
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 177 fans permalink
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If the Soviet Union couldn't take down Afghanistan then quite frankly we're not going to be able to, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/11/2009
- magic3400 I'm a Fan of magic3400 9 fans permalink
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Yeah, you're right, Poland, Hungary, France, they couldn't beat Germany, who would ever think America could.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 05/11/2009
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What exactly is the mission in Afghanistan? We have to have an objective, and do not tell me "spreading democracy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/11/2009
- johnbatist I'm a Fan of johnbatist 3 fans permalink

amazing how ILLITRATE you are . soviet union to a much greater extent defeated the nazi regime. that doesn't fit the propaganda you and millions of others have pumped full of. when the empire finally collapases all of you walking zambies will be sweped away in a BLINK of eye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/11/2009
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couldnt have done it with out Russia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/11/2009
- TheImpaler I'm a Fan of TheImpaler 7 fans permalink
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US did "participate" in victory over Germany; "participate" is the key word here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 05/12/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

No one has going back to Genghis Khan and Alexander The Great.
There's always those who want to measure themselves against the greatest warriors the world has ever known, someone else always supplies the blood for their chimera.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 05/11/2009
- TheImpaler I'm a Fan of TheImpaler 7 fans permalink
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You know, it not about taking down Afghanistan. Soviets could do it to, despite the fact that we were arming the Afghans, it just wasn'’t worth the lives and treasury. Is it in our best interest to have stable Afghanistan? Yes! But at what price? Any? Are we accomplishing that by killing civilians? No! This shake up at the top may have something to do with that. We will see?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 05/12/2009
- magic3400 I'm a Fan of magic3400 9 fans permalink
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WOW, hurry let's get the stimulus money to the schools, they are failing!!!

Tell that to millions of Americans that fought WWII, they'll be glad know so many Russians died on the beaches of France.

Were do you people live, I can't be here in the states.

PS - People will never know how ignorant you are if you never open your mouth...take that advice!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 05/13/2009
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McChrystal's Zarqawi unit, Task Force 6-26, became notorious for its interrogation methods, particularly at Camp Nama, where it was accused of abusing detainees. After the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal became public in April 2004, 34 members of the task force were disciplined; five Army Rangers were ultimately convicted of prisoner abuse at Camp Nama.[7][8]

McChrystal was also criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death by friendly fire of Ranger and former professional football player Pat Tillman. The day after approving a posthumous Silver Star citation for Tillman that included the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire," McChrystal sent an urgent memo warning senior government officials not to quote the citation in public speeches because it "might cause public embarrassment" if Tillman had in fact been killed by friendly fire, as McChrystal suspected. McChrystal was one of eight officers recommended for discipline by a subsequent Pentagon investigation but the Army declined to take action against him.[9][10]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/11/2009
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You didn't read the article did you. They addressed Tillman's death.

I'm not saying whether or not he's a good guy or bad guy. I don't know. I'm just glad that Obama's not afraid to fire folks and happy that he's not patting incompetence on the back and giving them the medal of freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 05/11/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 65 fans permalink

afternoon is exactly correct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 05/11/2009
- EDHvoice I'm a Fan of EDHvoice 2 fans permalink

I am surprised that the relief of GEN Mckiernan was handled in so public a manner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 05/11/2009
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