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ERICA WERNER | May 11, 2009 07:30 PM EST | AP

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President Barack Obama, accompanied by American Medical Association President J. James Rohack, speaks about health care reform, Monday, May 11, 2009, in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama praised the health care industry's promise to cut $2 trillion in costs over 10 years Monday, taking a sharply different course than President Bill Clinton did 16 years ago in an opening bid to overhaul the U.S. health system.

Drawing skepticism from lawmakers, Obama summoned representatives of the insurance industry, doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and labor groups to the White House for what he called "a watershed event in the long and elusive quest for health care reform."

It was a gathering of strange bedfellows. More than a decade ago, then-President Bill Clinton and his wife, now-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, designed a health care plan in secret, fought industry leaders over it and lost _ setting back the Democratic Party's cause for years.

If Obama succeeds in lowering costs and increasing access to health care, the meeting will be remembered as pivotal. If not, it will be just another Washington photo-op.

Indeed, the industry's proposal was short on specifics. And it appeared to do little to change minds in Congress as lawmakers attempt to write legislation to implement Obama's goal of extending health care to some 50 million uninsured Americans.

Within moments of Obama's appearance with the industry leaders, lawmakers praised the effort but suggested it didn't go to the heart of the health care debate.

Several lawmakers made clear that the industry proposal would do nothing to stave off the outcome that health insurers and others are trying to avoid _ a new government insurance plan that would be available to middle-income Americans. Health insurers say such a plan would drive them out of business.

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., cautiously welcomed the industry's offer while saying, "I am not about to take the fox's word that the hen house is safe." He said the industry's promises need to be given the weight of law.

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The industry groups said they would slow the growth of health care costs by 1.5 percent a year by coordinating care, reducing administrative costs and focusing on quality, efficiency and standardization. Health care costs would still grow faster than the economy as a whole, but not as fast as they otherwise would.

The specifics, industry officials said, would come later.

Obama has spoken often of the exorbitant costs in the nation's health care system, but slowing the rate price increases doesn't translate directly to paying the estimated $1.5 trillion cost of covering the uninsured. Money saved by the private sector doesn't flow directly to the federal treasury.

The top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, called the announcement a "move in the right direction," but said it would be more significant if the Congressional Budget Office, Washington's arbiter of what costs or saves money for the government, determined it saved money.

"When the White House and the industry put concrete proposals on paper and get a score from the Congressional Budget Office, then we'll know if the suggestions really achieve that kind of savings, and it'll be big news," Grassley said. "For health care budgeting purposes, CBO's word is the only one that counts."

Karen Ignagni, president of America's Health Insurance Plans, contended that the voluntary cost-containment effort would help lawmakers who are aiming to craft health overhaul legislation by August.

"They need help from the stakeholder community on cost containment and what you're hearing from all of us is we intend to help and that I think is the story today," Ignagni said.

The groups who signed onto Monday's effort were the American Medical Association, America's Health Insurance Plans, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the Service Employees International Union, the American Hospital Association and the Advanced Medical Technology Association.

Officials said they could bring costs down even while continuing to stay profitable _ noting that if health care legislation passes they'd be able to tap into a huge pool of currently uninsured people.

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Associated Press writers Henry C. Jackson and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama praised the health care industry's promise to cut $2 trillion in costs over 10 years Monday, taking a sharply different course than President Bill Clinton did 16 years ...
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama praised the health care industry's promise to cut $2 trillion in costs over 10 years Monday, taking a sharply different course than President Bill Clinton did 16 years ...
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- notwaff I'm a Fan of notwaff 5 fans permalink

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THE DISASTER YET TO COME
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My suspicion is that, based on the counsel of Rahm Emmanuel to "never waste a good disaster," that Obama is still orchestrating a national disaster across all our capitalist systems, and to leverage the disaster for Obama to total control and implement his socialism

He's already blackmailing the healthcare into finding saving or face legislation that will take their profitability. He's firing CEOs. He's closing Chrysler dealerships.

Why else would Obama propose a budget that is taking the US into a $10t deficit and then say today's deficit is unsustainable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 05/16/2009
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Nancy Pelosi receives campaign funding on par with what Senators do from Health Care Related Sources!

She received $1,687,350 from Health Care related sources and $4,027,127 from banking related sources many of whom own large interests in Heath Care. [Source: opensecret.org]

Pelosi said "SINGLE-PAYER" is off the table and that is unacceptable to Americans!

Health $794,300
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Other $459,125

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 AM on 05/14/2009
- TrueSense I'm a Fan of TrueSense 11 fans permalink

Ha ! Ha ! American people played for fools again. It has been reported and I have noticed that when asked the hard questions, they have no answers. Schultz asked Orgzaz what does the analysis show of single payer and other plans compared to this. All Petey said was this will hold down cost. That's no real answer and big deal ?

I guess the US has no attention span and can be easily fooled. It too bad. US deserves better. I had some many hopes for US to do something grand and we are punking out and getting punked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 05/12/2009
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 41 fans permalink

UNLESS President Obama holds their feet to the file and blow-torches them with shame if they
default on their "promise", those same HEALTH CARE PLAYERS simply got some 'free publicity'
and WILL CONTINUE GREEDY PROFITEERING and CONTINUE CREATING UNAFFORDABLE
insanely expensive health care in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 05/12/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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"setting back the Democratic Party's cause for years"

Yea a healthcare "Give a way" No thanks Dems!!!!
Healthcare isnt a Right

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 05/12/2009
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 41 fans permalink

No, for you ONLY NO-HEALTH-CARE is a "good right".

Let's TAKE AWAY YOUR JOB, your BIG$$$$$$$­$$$$$$$$$, YOUR PENSION, YOUR FREE INSURANCE (yours and "dick" CHENEY'S) a.s.a.p. and then see "if healthcare is a right".

95% of MIDDLE AND WORKING Americans' tax money is GIVEN AWAY TO
YOUR RICH CORPORATIONS mostly in no-bid contracts and corrupt arrangements (like dick Cheney's with Halliburton Corp. costing us bizillions)

They and you don't mind crashing America's Economy daily with continuing, rabid greed and profiteering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 05/12/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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yea and your messiahs GE and Acorn.....­.....LMAO!­!!!!!
Get a life buddy boy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/12/2009
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** ... health insurers and others are trying to avoid _ a new government insurance plan that would be available to middle-income Americans. Health insurers say such a plan would drive them out of business. **

And that's a bad thing, how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/12/2009
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 41 fans permalink

Health insurers say such a plan would drive them out of business?
Do you even know how much $$$$$$$$$$­$$$$$$$$$$­$$
PROFITEERING they do on those will illness?

HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY IS A PREDATOR
on Americans. Profit-motive in America HAS GONE CRAZY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 05/12/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

Big Pharma is laughing all the way to the bank. Obama either does not seem to understand that these interests are not going to just surrender their trillions in profits or he is complicit. They have achieved their goal of insuring that no real reforms will be implemented. Probably isn't an accident that Merc[k] is short for Mercenary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 05/12/2009
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I'm still waiting to hear what any of you people are going to say to the familiees of the millions of new deaths every year, when UHC is implemented, and people like myself are dying at basically the same rate, only for a different reason, because nobody cared enough to actually make improvements in real care, ensuring that we will all be paying for the same medicine technology and treatments that are killing those of us who have insurance now, and will kill more people when they have access to medications that cause liver kidney or heart failure or suicidal tendencies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 05/11/2009
- NABNYC I'm a Fan of NABNYC 99 fans permalink

They just raised my premiums 13%. You know why? Because they can. I have no claim, no medical condition thank God, no reason at all except that they can and do gouge me, so they do.

We must have the option available to all Americans to become a part of a single-payer Medicare system. Let the government with its power set the rates to be paid to hospitals, doctors, and drug pushers. These doctors, hospitals, and drug pushers have become rich beyond our imagination while forcing more Americans to die on our streets without care because they raise their prices so high. None of them are in the business of providing healthcare. They are in the business of maximizing profit.

Of course they will make promises, junkies always do: we'll be good, just don't cut us off from the unending stream of money we steal from the citizens of this country. The industry must love the U.S. Government, one of the last that actually lets their own cancer-stricken people die in the gutter without treatment because they have turned health "care" over to be run by the Medical Mafia that will break people's knees if they don't pay $50 for a flu shot, and will take their house if somebody needs a little toe surgery. These people are worse than the Mafia, and our government takes bribes from them then sits back and watched the citizens die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 05/11/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 98 fans permalink
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they don't need us anymore, they have slaves in foreign countries who produce the cr*p we buy, or used to buy. The American citizen is irrelevant.
who needs quality merchandise when we can throw all the broken stuff in the ocean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 05/11/2009

. . . and the landfills are filled to overflowing with stuff as we choke on our garbage !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 05/11/2009
- American50 I'm a Fan of American50 7 fans permalink
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Yea socialized medicine will be great.
Waiting rooms will be full accrossed our nation
and YOU all will be paying more.
Can you say a i d s? You all pay for it.... wow
ABE Lincoln... Indeed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 05/11/2009

You must have the wrong subject area, we are discussing the broken healthcare system, not the decimated education system. That subject is accrossed the street !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 05/11/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 05/12/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 287 fans permalink
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US Healthcare ranks 37th in the world and spends twice as much as every other nation. Yea cuz capitalistic medicine works soooooooo well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/11/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

Fair Capitalism does work, but thats not what we have. We have congressman that claim that we can't drive to Canada for drugs because Canadian drugs aren't safe. Lobbyists and politicians use legal complexity to hide their true agendas, and even now as most Americans are starting to understand how screwed up things are we also seem to be powerless to stop the hemorage. We bleat meekly as Wallstreet drains our treasury bailing out failed business that are of little benefit to the economy, but very important to the super rich that bet on them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 05/12/2009

A growing, productive and engaged organization makes possible an effective, efficient health-care system for all our citizens. Additionally, leadership applied over a period of time affects the mental and physical health of the organization's membership. Modern leadership instills self-confidence, self-esteem and inner-stability toward a healthier membership. Traditional leadership engenders unwarranted faith, misplaced pride and unnatural fusion indicating small or failing accomplishment and mild, prolonged stress. The first leads to healthy members; The second results in mental and physical breakdown. Leadership affects membership health over a period of time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 05/11/2009
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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It's a good gesture. But don't be fooled, we must stay vigilant for a public option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 05/11/2009
- SFSierra I'm a Fan of SFSierra 2 fans permalink

Fox guarding the hen house indeed!

We'll never get the costs down until profit is taking out of the system. Other developed countries who have more effective and efficient health care than ours figured that out some time ago. As long as Republican-think controls the mindset on this issue, we'll just end up with some cobbled together nightmare that adds cost and frustrates the consumer even more. It's time to finally be bold and really overhaul the system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 05/11/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 98 fans permalink
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If this doesn't work, what's the back-up plan? Alot of companies/­corporatio­ns have gone out of business during this time. What's so special about these insurance companies.
I know some insurance execs and they have made themselves millionaires off US over the years.
So, if we "trust these "people" and they screw US again, will we have this mess for the forseeable future???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 05/11/2009

We don't need a back up plan, we have Obama for the next 20 years as president. Get over it, you lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 05/11/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 98 fans permalink
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No sh*t......­....we all "lost"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/11/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 13 fans permalink

Did you listen to his speech? Currently, healthcare costs are spiraling out of control. Businesses can't keep up with the high cost and can't invest their funding into their businesses for improvements. This is a current reduction in their rate to help the economy. This is a piece of healthcare reform. We need to still push for the single payer method. Check out 1payer.nett" for petitions to complete. They are e-faxed to key congressmen and the whitehouse. There is also a short video my Mike Farrell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/11/2009

Thanks for your effort but Faxes and Emails to Congress are totally useless, most Fax machines in the Capital sit next to the trash cans. Letters are even worse, the typical reply is a form document duplicated a thousand times. A group of my friends and I tried that a while back and we all got the same form letter sent by a two dollar an hour staffer in reply to individual request letters.
Calling is difficult because you have to talk to an unknown staffer but it makes the biggest difference, and that's still not a lot. It's hard to stay energized in such a corrupt system that is weighted against average citizens !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/11/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 98 fans permalink
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The petitions don't seem to be working. I suppose it's better than nothing, but not by much. This isn't a democracy anymore...­.......pro­lly for a long time. We're just the sheep to be sheared...­.and then eaten.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/11/2009
- BarryS I'm a Fan of BarryS 26 fans permalink
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sstep 1: donate 1 million dollars
step 2.: congressperson's least senior staff member will deign to talk to you
step 3. staff members spend the next 10 lunchtimes telling your story to each other with sustained laughter.

they are already totally bought. the money petitions and calls are a waste of natural resources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 05/12/2009
- Buffyboy I'm a Fan of Buffyboy 13 fans permalink

I hope Obama is just saying what he has to say. He couldn't possibly put any credence into this. The only thing these medical and pharma execs want is to save their golden goose by driving a stake into the heart of single-payer healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 05/11/2009
- liberalbug I'm a Fan of liberalbug 46 fans permalink
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That's why you are seeing them offer up all these "cuts"---they are terrified of having to compete against the government. If the cuts are there to be made--a couple TRILLION over a mere decade, does that tell you something about how much money these companies are making? How much actually goes into patient care, and how much goes to line the pockets of executives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 05/11/2009

Tonight, the PBS News Hour faithfully followed the path blazed by the rest of the Main Stream Media and caved in to the demands of the Corporate Oligarchy that are the real leaders of this government. One of these on screen round table discussions among hand picked personalities, you know, gives the appearance of a good old family discussion around the dinner table. The only difference is that these family members are all shills for the business elite who pull the strings of their puppets masquerading as elected leaders of our country.

Once again Single Payer was announced dead on arrival as the pity party continue for the Insurance and drug industries who are being forced down to their last 100 Billion Dollars by having to cut costs. They have been robbing the American people blind for decades and Obama is going to take their word they will lower costs. As many people have pointed out, corporate enities like these people are obligated by U.S. Law to make a profit for their share holders. It appears that the lives of many Americans will continue to be at the mercy of a pay or die system of healthcare­.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 05/11/2009
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