Gingrich Either Ignorant Or A Chinese Ally: Dem Rep

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First Posted: 05-13-09 11:10 AM   |   Updated: 05-13-09 06:13 PM

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Bill Delahunt ripped into former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Tuesday, arguing that his recent comments about Chinese Uyghurs held at Guantanamo Bay show that he is either ignorant of international law or bizarrely allying himself with communist China -- or both.

Gingrich, who condemned torture in China in 1997, told Fox News' Chris Wallace that a group of Uyghurs [pronounced wee-gers] deemed innocent by the Bush administration but still looking for a third country to take them should simply be sent to China.

"Why is that our problem?" Gingrich wondered. "Why are we protecting these guys? Why does it become an American problem?"

The answer is simple, said Delahunt, a top Democrat on the House foreign affairs committee. We own the problem because we bought it.

"Well, in this particular case, we bought it," he said. "We bought it literally because these detainees were a victim of some half-cocked initiative, put out by Cheney et. al, where they were purchased for $5,000."

In one of the least-well-thought-out projects the Bush administration engaged in following Sept. 11th, the U.S. paid bounty hunters to collect Al Qaeda associates. Unsurprisingly, those characters picked up whatever innocent people they could find and sold them to the U.S., which shipped them to Guantanamo, where they could be tortured into confessing some false connection to global terrorism.

Now that the U.S. has realized its error, Gingrich says that it "verges on insanity" to think the nation has any moral or legal obligation to the Uyghurs it imprisoned. It is universally understood that they would be persecuted if returned to China. Ironically, Chinese Muslim Uighurs represent a pro-Western dissident movement within the country.

In fact, there is a vibrant Uyghur community in Northern Virginia that has volunteered to take the detainees in. The leader of that community, Rebiya Kadeer, has met with President Bush, who praised her as a human rights leader.

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Kadeer is the author of the new book Dragon Fighter: One Woman's Epic Struggle for Peace with China.

"Send them to China," said Gingrich. "If a third country wants to receive them, send them to a third country. But setting this precedent that if you get picked up by Americans -- I mean, the Somalian who was recently brought here who's a pirate -- I mean, if you get picked up by the Americans, you show up in the United States, a lawyer files an amicus brief on your behalf for free, a year later you have citizenship because, after all, how can we not give you citizenship since you're now here, and in between our taxpayers pay for you -- this is, I think -- verges on insanity."

Delahunt said he found it surprising Gingrich would ally himself with China. "I guess he is unaware of the [United Nations] Convention Against Torture which obligates us not to return them to China because it's clear they would be persecuted and undoubtedly subjected to torture, incarceration and all sorts of degradation, given the history of the red, godless Chinese communist government," he said, using the terminology for China more often relied on by conservatives such as Gingrich.

"What I find particularly ironic is, here's the former Speaker allying himself with the Chinese communists. Quite an interesting development. I guess his fervent anti-communism has abated somewhat."

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America

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Bill Delahunt ripped into former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Tuesday, arguing that his recent comments about Chinese Uyghurs held at Guantanamo Bay show that he is either ignorant of international law...
Bill Delahunt ripped into former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Tuesday, arguing that his recent comments about Chinese Uyghurs held at Guantanamo Bay show that he is either ignorant of international law...
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- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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The "weegurs" you mention are not absolutely innocent. They are only innocent of plotting to commit terror acts against the US. They are members of a violent group of Muslims in China, who have executed violent attacks and planned and executed terrorist acts in China, including blowing up a bus in Shanghai. They went to Afghanistan, where they lived in terror training camps, and were trained by al Q, for the specific purpose of returning to China to comit more terror attacks. They were picked up in Pakistan, where they fled after we bombed the terror camps in Afghanistan.

So, they are not innocent of being terrorists, they are not innocent of ploting to commit acts of terror.

Their defence was, "We are not planing terror acts against the US, we are planing them against China. China is a communkist country. We thought the US would be sympathetic to us, and our plans to commit acts of terror in China.

Gee. haven't you seen the written and youtube videos of these terrorists? or do you youself believe we should support terrorism directed against China?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/18/2009
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It's the Start of the 2012 Republican Nomination Process. Only this time it's not your Father's Republican Nomination. This one will be based on who is the most ignorant and who can say the dumbest things on national tv. There sure is some stiff competition already lining up and being taken seriously on the right while the rest of the country thinks, WHAT?

Well may the biggest idiot win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/16/2009
- The Ghost I'm a Fan of The Ghost 47 fans permalink
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This guy used to have half a brain. WHAT HAPPENED?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/14/2009
- Chip W I'm a Fan of Chip W 18 fans permalink

"the U.S. paid bounty hunters to collect Al Qaeda associates."
I haven't heard this before.
Anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 05/14/2009
- The Ghost I'm a Fan of The Ghost 47 fans permalink
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You were not paying attention, it was common in the first six months of the Afghanistan campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 05/14/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 172 fans permalink
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Verified, and I got all my news from network TV at that time so it's safe to classify the payments to Afghan warlords for "al Qaida members" as "common knowledge." Donald Rumsfeld couldn't be shut up about what a great "idea" it was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/15/2009
- Tonelook I'm a Fan of Tonelook 11 fans permalink

Gingrich was vilifying Pres Bill Clinton about his affair, while having an affair himself; while his wife suffered of cancer; who he later left. Sounds like typical Republican morals to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 05/14/2009
- nirek I'm a Fan of nirek 109 fans permalink
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Republicans seem to have a problem with practicing what they preach, don't they?
Who wants to be told what to do or how to act by someone who doesn't follow their own advice?
Nirek

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 05/14/2009
- Phxflyer I'm a Fan of Phxflyer 78 fans permalink
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Or both.

I pick both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 05/14/2009
- PepperzMom I'm a Fan of PepperzMom 7 fans permalink
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Obviously, his conversion to Catholicism didn't take.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 05/14/2009

Newt and his GOP counterparts has no morals. They are angry, mean, hateful, racists,and I assume they have and are capable of any crime imaginable. Where does Newt, and the rest of his cohorts come from. I guess this is what power does to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 05/13/2009
- The Ghost I'm a Fan of The Ghost 47 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/14/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/13/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 410 fans permalink
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All I saw was "Gingrich.........Ignorant"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/13/2009
- wrightj I'm a Fan of wrightj 4 fans permalink

GOP = hypocriscy and duplicity They have alost all moral compass completely!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/13/2009
- dax49 I'm a Fan of dax49 18 fans permalink

why do you think the only network that will have him is faux. did he ever pay back the loan that kept him out of jail- i bet the do1es could use that money now, with both of them out of a job

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/13/2009
- navalvet I'm a Fan of navalvet 6 fans permalink

Gingrich has always been full of hot air, far more show than substance and intellectually negligent. His enthusiasms carried him farther than either his abilities or his mental capacities. His latest ambitions are to head the religious right and to run for president; neither of which is likely to be achieved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 05/13/2009
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Newtie's a Catholic now. He has seen the light.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/13/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 64 fans permalink
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That is as dark as Falwell's @ss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/13/2009
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I theorized that Newt was subjected to water boarding and that water entered his cranium washing out the two cells there, but alas, I was wrong, the water came out dirty, but with no gray matter at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/13/2009
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