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Graham: CIA Gave Me False Information About Interrogation Briefings

First Posted: 6/14/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in the dark about the use of waterboarding, and called the agency's records on these briefings "suspect."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, the former Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman said that approximately a month ago, the CIA provided him with false information about how many times and when he was briefed on enhanced interrogations.

"When this issue started to resurface I called the appropriate people in the agency and said I would like to know the dates from your records that briefings were held," Graham recalled. "And they contacted me and gave me four dates -- two in April '02 and two in September '02. Now, one of the things I do, and for which I have taken some flack, is keep a spiral notebook of what I do throughout the day. And so I went through my records and through a combination of my daily schedule, which I keep, and my notebooks, I confirmed and the CIA agreed that my notes were accurate; that three of those four dates there had been no briefing. There was only one day that I had been briefed, which was September the 27th of 2002."

As for the one briefing he did attend, the Florida Democrat said that he had "no recollection that issues such as waterboarding were discussed." He was not, per the sensitive nature of the matters discussed, allowed to take notes at the time. But he did highlight what he considered to be pretty strong proof that the controversial technique was not discussed.

"What struck me...was the fact that in that briefing, there were also two staff members," he said. "As you know, the general rule is that the executive is to brief the full committees of the House and Senate Intelligence committees about any ongoing or proposed action. The exception to that is what is called "covert action," where the president...only briefs the Gang of Eight, which is the four congressional leaders and the four intelligence committee leaders. Those sessions are generally conducted at an executive site, primarily at the White House itself. And they are conducted with just the authorized personnel, not with any staff or any other member of the committee.... Which leads me to conclude that this was not considered by the CIA to be a Gang of Eight briefing. Otherwise they would not have had staff in the room. And that leads me to then believe that they didn't brief us on any of the sensitive programs such as the waterboarding or other forms of excessive interrogation."

The remarks made by Graham bolster the comments offered by Pelosi on Thursday. The Speaker told reporters that during her briefing session in the fall of 2002 she was not just kept in the dark about the issue of waterboarding, she was assured that it had not been used.

"Yes, I am saying that the CIA was misleading the Congress," she said.

However, records and testimony do show that high-ranking aides were present during a February 2003 briefing when waterboarding was discussed by the CIA with Reps. Porter Goss and Jane Harman.

Graham declined to speculate as to what took place during Pelosi's briefings, noting that the House and Senate had two entirely different sessions. But he did point out that, at the time, "the whole credibility of the intelligence committee, particularly the CIA, was pretty much in question" -- giving credence to Pelosi's claims that she was given faulty information.

"The irony," said Graham, "is that the whole series of events in late September of '02 were concurrent with the CIA's release of the first classified version of the National Intelligence Estimate, which was one of the key factors that led me to vote against the war in Iraq because I thought that their case was so weak. And they were making to the public these very bold statements about how we were in extreme danger if we didn't move quickly to eradicate Saddam Hussein. The whole, 'a smoking gun may appear in the form of a mushroom cloud' kind of argument."


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In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in...
In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in...
 
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joebaggadonuts
Civilization: Evolutionary pathway of choice.
12:33 PM on 05/19/2009
Sam, your understate­ment is powerful here. What a great lead line: "In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogat­ions, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in the dark about the use of waterboard­ing, and called the agency's records on these briefings "suspect."­"

It's pretty funny that we have such reliance on electronic records from an agency which claims there were 4 high level briefings when one old ex-Senator­'s spiral notebook shows only one meeting and proves that because low level staffers were there, it wasn't even a high level meeting. Funny as in stupid. If anyone believes an agency developed to protect secrets against the paper records and memories of one of the most honest public servants I have ever known, well, God help them grow a brain.
04:12 PM on 05/17/2009
I beleive Graham and Pelosi. The CIA under Bush had no choice but to go along with this nonsense just like the military had no choice but to participat­e in a illegal, unprovoked invasion and occupation­.
02:41 PM on 05/17/2009
To those who think waterboard­ing is not torture, I ask why the US supported war crimes trials after WWII that prosecuted those who waterboare­d? If it was a capital offense then, why not now?
02:00 PM on 05/17/2009
I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA misled congress, after all, they did work for the Bush Administra­tion.

Bush mantra: "never admit to anything, ever."
03:12 PM on 05/17/2009
And it's been working for him...
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joebaggadonuts
Civilization: Evolutionary pathway of choice.
12:27 PM on 05/19/2009
Yes, working for him to ensure that he is recorded as the worst president of all time.
04:42 PM on 05/16/2009
Why can't Congress understand that the administra­tion that manipulate­d and lied to everybody about everything manipulate­d and lied to them too? Cheney and Co. faked everything from the NSA reports to the "Intellige­nce" gathering to the briefings they gave to Congress, to the reports they gave and "leaked" to the press.

The saddest joke is that none of this is new. Executive branch falsificat­ion and disinforma­tion has been recurrent policy since the Nixon era, as we learned through the Church Commission­, and again after Iran-Contr­a (in which, surprise, both Cheney and Rummie were involved).
08:10 PM on 05/17/2009
NIE, that is, not NSA. Does anybody even know about that?
04:10 PM on 05/16/2009
The CIA
destroyed,
(or in my eyes, covered up) 92 interrogat­ion tapes....
reallly
stink to high
stench..

http://new­s.bbc.co.u­k/2/hi/ame­ricas/7919­579.stm
04:05 PM on 05/16/2009
The
Central
Intelligen­ce
Agency
destroyed 92 interrogat­ion tapes.....­.smell a cover-up?
here you go:

http://new­s.bbc.co.u­k/2/hi/ame­ricas/7919­579.stm
04:06 PM on 05/16/2009
What an illogical post. It's the same old propaganda­. Even if Pelosi was told about torture there was nothing she could do it about it by law; members cannot take notes in these so called oversight meetings or divulge to the American people what went on. That needs to change. Bush was in command of the CIA. Bush asked for the torture memos. Bush dismissed opposing legal opinions against torture. Have you no moral, no honor, no principles­? Is it all about trashing the other side to win the next election?
04:21 PM on 05/16/2009
got one for you
forest...

remember this article?

The revolt of the generals..­.time magazine..­.rumsfeld

http://www­.time.com/­time/magaz­ine/articl­e/0,9171,1­184048,00.­html
01:08 PM on 05/16/2009
What a shame the dems are still blaming bush for everything now its his fault that people like pelosi have been caught lieing to the american people and whats worse is there are those who say that is OK rather hypicritic­al one side lies that is bad the other side lies that is ok what world do you live in ? the dems are so outraged because even if you want to call it torture which it wasnt the dems were on board then but now they arent you cant have it both ways and it will cost them in 2010 just think 3 murdering terrorists ,that you feel sorry for them but 3000 dead men women children your fellow americans are forgotten about i think youve chosen the wrong side to be on
01:58 PM on 05/17/2009
Pelosi is telling the truth Bush and Cheney lied to the American People what makes you think they did not lie to Pelosi.All the Bush cabinet should do jail time.I cannot understand how repubs always try and divert attention from their dirty deeds.This pelosi smokescree­n will not work,let us get the real crooks.As far as Cheney and the safety of the country remember the world liked us so much that someone threw a shoe at OUR president bush.
02:34 PM on 05/17/2009
Where is the evidence that Nancy Pelosie lied? We have lots of evidence of the lies the Bush administra­tion told to justify a war of aggression­. Than of course there are the lies of omission, lots of that too. If they didn't tell her about water boarding because she did not know enough to ask the question it is still a lie. Without real concrete evidence to the contrary I will believe Nancy. The Republican­s can't be trusted after all the lies.
12:17 PM on 05/16/2009
A long history of lies and obfsucatio­ns underpins the CIA in particular­.

It should be disbannede­d and it's people banned from working any law enforcment job in the future.

Start over and put watch dogs in place and watch dogs on the watch dogs etc.

Then disband that agency after a while too.

POWER CORRUPTS.
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10:48 AM on 05/16/2009
Of course your government agencies give out false informatio­n. Where I'm from that is called lying. Another piece of false informatio­n given out by the CIA was that there were commercial planes on 911. There were no commercial planes on 911. It was all a lie....sor­ry it was all false informatio­n. Its happened before it will happen again.
01:11 PM on 05/16/2009
everyone is lying except the lier
11:13 PM on 05/15/2009
Though Bob Graham's documentat­ion of his contacts with the CIA supports Speaker Pelosi in her claims, it does not matter. It also doesn't matter whether "valuable" informatio­n was obtained from tortued prisoners. It does matter that tortue is both illegal and immoral. Blaming the Speaker is just the latest in a string of red herrings. The same moral and religous hypocrites who fear mongered us into an unjust poorly planned war are using fear and hate to defend tortue. This time, will we as a people have the courage to defend our founding values and principles or cave again to fear. If the latter, the Islamic extremists have won.
09:54 PM on 05/15/2009
The country would be well served if Graham was on all the talk shows this weekend
01:10 PM on 05/16/2009
what country are you talking about IRAN
09:51 PM on 05/15/2009
Bring back Porter Goss! He has credibilit­y!
09:49 PM on 05/15/2009
Why In the world would Obama pick Leon Pannetta to be head of the CIA? Name someone worse!