Nancy Pelosi: CIA Lied To Me

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DAVID ESPO | May 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST | AP

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. is seen on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, May 14, 2009. Earlier Thursday, under strong attack from Republicans, Pelosi accused the CIA and Bush Administration of misleading her about waterboarding detainees in the war on terror and sharply rebutted claims she was complicit in the method's use. (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi bluntly accused the CIA on Thursday of misleading her and other lawmakers about its use of waterboarding during the Bush administration, escalating a controversy grown to include both political parties, the spy agency and the White House.

"It is not the policy of this agency to mislead the United States Congress," responded CIA spokesman George Little, although he refused to answer directly when asked whether Pelosi's accusation was accurate.

But the House's top Democrat, speaking at a news conference in the Capitol, was unequivocal about a CIA briefing she received in the fall of 2002.

"We were told that waterboarding was not being used," the speaker said. "That's the only mention, that they were not using it. And we now know that earlier they were." She suggested the CIA release the briefing material.

Pelosi also vehemently disputed Republican charges that she was complicit in the use of waterboarding, and she suggested the GOP was trying to shift the focus of public attention away from the Bush administration's use of techniques that she and President Barack Obama have described as torture.

Coincidentally, Pelosi spoke as the CIA rejected former Vice President Dick Cheney's request to release secret memos judging whether waterboarding and other harsh techniques had succeeded in securing valuable intelligence information.

CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said the request was turned down because the documents are the subject of pending litigation, which makes them not subject to declassification.

Pelosi has been the target of a campaign orchestrated in recent days by the House Republican leadership, which is eager to undercut her statements as well as stick Democrats with partial responsibility for the use of waterboarding _ a kind of simulated drowning _ in the Bush administration.

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GOP officials secured the release of an unclassified chart by the CIA that describes a total of 40 briefings for lawmakers over a period of several years. Pelosi's name appears once, as having attended a session on Sept. 4, 2002, when she was the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Former Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., who at the time was the chairman of the committee and later became CIA director, also was present.

The notation says the briefing was on "enhanced interrogation techniques on Abu Zubaydah ... and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed."

Little, responding to Pelosi for the CIA, said the chart "is true to the language in the agency's records." But he did not say whether the information was accurate.

Instead, he pointed to a recent letter from CIA Director Leon Panetta to lawmakers saying it would be up to Congress to determine whether notes made by agency personnel at the time they briefed lawmakers were accurate.

The CIA has said it could allow congressional staff to review the notes made by briefers who spoke with lawmakers.

The chart specifically notes a discussion of waterboarding in 13 briefings between February 2003 and March 2009, most attended by Democrats as well as Republicans. Two Democrats, Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and former Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, have challenged the accuracy of some of the CIA's chart.

Pelosi's decision to respond to her critics was something of a surprise, since most polls show Obama and his policies are popular, and Republicans have exhibited virtually nonstop political disarray in the six months since last fall's elections.

Pelosi renewed her call for a so-called truth commission to investigate the events in the Bush administration that led to the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques. While President Barack Obama has banned waterboarding, calling it torture, he has been notably cool toward an independent inquiry that might distract attention from his domestic agenda.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., also has expressed opposition, as have congressional Republicans.

Pelosi was unusually harsh in describing the CIA.

"They mislead us all the time," she said. Asked whether the agency had lied, Pelosi said yes.

Pelosi contended that Democrats did what they could to stop the use of waterboarding. The senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, who received the 2003 briefing on the practice, sent the CIA a formal letter of protest, she said. That was a reference to Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.

But Pelosi said her focus at the time was on winning control of Congress from the Republicans so her party could change course.

"No letter could change the policy. It was clear we had to change the leadership in Congress and in the White House. That was my job _ the Congress part," Pelosi said.

Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, said during the day that Democrats "want to have it both ways" on waterboarding by claiming they did not oppose it even though they criticize it.

Boehner also asked Obama in a recent White House meeting to release the CIA memos that describe the information gained through the use of waterboarding.

Cheney says the documents show that the tactics prevented terrorist attacks and saved lives.

In an embarrassment for the administration, the director of national intelligence, Dennis Blair, told employees in a recent memo that interrogations that included waterboarding had secured useful intelligence. He later issued a public statement that said it was not known whether the same information could have been obtained without harsh techniques _ the same position Obama has taken.

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Associated Press writers Julie Davis and Ann Sanner contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi bluntly accused the CIA on Thursday of misleading her and other lawmakers about its use of waterboarding during the Bush administration, escalating a cont...
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Bye Bye Nancy!!! LOL! Bush Lied!! the CIA lied!!! Too funny

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 05/18/2009

It'll be nice to see that old lying bag go.....she should do infomercials for "The scooter store"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 06/03/2009
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Here's what Boehner said Sunday about Pelosi: "If the speaker is accusing the CIA and other intelligence officials of lying or misleading the Congress, then she should come forward with evidence...." So Boehner is doing his best to make it look like Pelosi is either hiding evidence of her complicity, or at the least has no proof.

However, the day before his remark (see above), Pelosi demanded her CIA briefing transcripts be released. So that Boehner can catch up to yesterday, let's be clear: the CIA has the records that Boehner wants Pelosi to produce. Pelosi already asked the CIA to release them. OK?

Millions of Americans are furious that Obama is trying to ignore this entire issue. Boehner is a bonehead to keep this in the public spotlight by throwing out mistatements and obfuscations just to see if anything sticks. I'm a Democrat, but I'm pretty sure that if I were a Republican I'd still be pulling my hair out at his behavior. I genuinely have no doubt that if Boehner would be quiet, this would go away.

I hope Boehner's blatant misrepresentation of Pelosi comes back to kick him in the butt. I, for one, would like to see everyone who broke all those laws and violated those international agreements prosecuted. So Boehner, thanks for revisiting this issue, and now please join Pelosi in asking the CIA to release the evidence you seek.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 05/17/2009
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From madkane.com: The “We Did Nothing Wrong, & Nancy Should Have Stopped Us” Song
Republicans are truly gifted at changing the subject, and the media falls for it every time. Take CIA torture, for instance. Is the media focusing on who in the Bush administration broke the law and ordered torture? Of course not! Instead, the topic’s morphed into whether Nancy Pelosi is lying when she says the CIA misled Congress about torture.

Following Republican logic is never an easy task. But from what I can gather, here’s the Republican position: Bush’s CIA did nothing wrong, & Pelosi could have and should have stopped them.

In honor of the Republicans tortured position on torture, I’ve written them a theme song to the tune of Stephen Foster’s Camptown Races:

The CIA did nothing wrong.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
Pelosi knew and went along.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Torture is always right.
Torture can make our day.
And Nancy’s nothing but a lying nag.
She could have got in the way.

Interrogation must be tough.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
Pelosi knew we got too rough.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Never did break no laws.
Torture? Who, us? No way!
Pelosi’s nothing but a lying hag.
Nancy would lead you astray.

The CIA protects us all.
Doo-da, Doo-da.
It’s time Pelosi took the fall.
Oh, de doo-da day.

Torture was never done.
Torture is lots of fun.
And Nancy’s nothing but a lying nag.
Nancy Pelosi should pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 05/17/2009
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Lies are the currency in which the CIA operates. With all the to do over whether they lied to Speaker Pelosi, it's extraordinary no one appears to have raised the specter of poor Colin Powell shaming himself at the UN regurgitating CIA whoppers non-stop while the Director sat behind him relishing the slam dunk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 05/17/2009
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pelosi wouldnt know the truth id oboma slapped her in the face with it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/16/2009

Michael Tomasky of Guardian,UK wrote on Friday about Pelosi problem: “It's clear to me that some of you are, misinformed about how this stuff works. ( The Pelosi case )..

Pelosi was in 2002 and 2003 the ranking member (meaning highest ranking member of the minority party, then the Democrats) on the House Intel Committee. As such she was entitled to be briefed by the CIA. Actually, the law says that all members of the intel committee are supposed to be briefed on sensitive matters, but the Bush administration took to briefing only the so-called "gang of four" - the chair and ranking member of both chambers' committees. This itself was, as I say, against the law, but nobody raised a stink, and I'm not sure that anything would have happened even if they did.

Gang of four members are under absolutely strict instructions not to relate or repeat anything they hear in these briefings. So you have a situation where these four people know really great stuff that they can't tell their colleagues… .

So the idea that this makes Pelosi as bad as Cheney, is utterly childish.

I would guess that she is telling the truth and didn't know. Remember, three people now - she and Jay Rockefeller and Bob Graham -- all say the CIA didn't tell them what they say they told them. Read Greg Sargent for more on that.” ( Guardian , London 5/15/09)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 05/16/2009

Yes, the CIA was lying to her, and continues to lie today when they indicate that she was informed of Abu Zayed's waterboarding. The CIA needs an inside an out investigation, and the people there with a anti-Pelosi agenda need to be rooted out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/17/2009
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If the CIA is indeed lying, why is Ponneta defending them? He has nothing to gain, he wasn't the director back when this stuff was going on so why not just say he doesn't know either way or admit the CIA lied? What does he have to gain by stating that Pelosi is lying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/26/2009

The CIA destroyed 21 tapes of interrogations and they should be believed. Only by Republicans as no one with a lick of common sense would believe anything any Republican said and as a matter of fact if a Republican says good day to you my advice would be to run to a window and look out just to make sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 05/16/2009

I know I am going to get blasted for this one, but here goes. I do want things to get better in this country, but I am trouble understanding all this. First Pelosi says that the Bush administration is the dumbest one in the history of the country, a group of baboons that can't do anything right. Then she says that they sure fooled her, the misled her and others. Wouldn't that mean that these baboons were smarter than she was because they were able to mislead and fool her and the rest of Congress? If she is no smarter than that, she should not hold the number 3 position in this country.

In my opinion, she is a politician which means she lies to cover which way she feels the wind is blowing. The White House was in Republican hands, but the Congress was under her party's control. I think she has made a major mistake which I doubt she will be able to fully recover from. There is plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 05/16/2009
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The final word on Pelosi

For years during the Bush administration, I had gotten letters from Nancy Pelosi urging support against the covert actions of his regime. They withheld information from congress, the public, Cheney even withheld information from the President. Cheney in his unsurpassed arrogance never felt he had to report anything to anyone.

It makes no sense, given history and the nature of Pelosi’s reputation that she will speak her mind and rally the troops –and- that she viewed by the Bush regime as a ‘problem’, that they would have disclosed this information to her.
A. she’s a woman. B. she’s a whistle blower.

Why does the press not do the math?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 05/16/2009
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Cable media has no news other than American politics. The ratings President Obama gave them since his declaration to run for office broke records every month and MSM is hungry for more they will avoid talking about anything else. They'll exploit gossip, rumors, schoolyard brawls instead of acting professional with real journalism and current events worldwide. If they think it will give them higher ratings, they will sell their souls to be patted on the back by their boss. The media is sickening. I never thought The Enquirer would have more class than cable news but it's been happening since January. Why? There was a president it was all over. Leeches is what they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 05/15/2009
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This whole matter stinks, just look at the history of the CIA.
Bush and his family have roots in the CIA. This looks like a well planed
mess. When our Justice system is in conflic with the International Court people need to wake up.
When our tactics line up with the Third World and we are not in line with France, Spain ,and Italy.
We have a problem this is our roots, Europe is the base for our legal system.
England is along for the ride, without the people. None of the people of this world wanted a war in Iraq.
Remember when Cheney said he did not care how the people feel.
That should have been a wake up for the American people. We should have gotten a new Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 05/15/2009
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Ah, thanks... it's Bush's fault... he called his Dad, who made a few phone calls and wha-la!

Could it not be possible that Nancy is lying? I think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/15/2009
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Pelosi never authorized any torture, nor did she support it. Try as you might, the crime is Bush and Cheney's not Pelosi. Bush and Cheney are worst than Nixon ever was and they used American soldier's for their personal wargame. Repugs should be ashamed of themselves for supporting torture! CIA lies!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 05/15/2009
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This is just another stunt by the Rethuglicans.They think they have something that will hurt the Dems. credibility and they are running with it.Wake up people!!!!!!!!! Everyone in their right mind knows that the Rethuglicans lied about everything when they were in control.She is telling they truth and Cheny is running scared!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 05/15/2009

The Dems started and wanted it investigat­ed,Remembe­r!but it seems to be back firing(like everything else they do).Bush could not authorize anything without thier approval.Both Hilary and Pelosi said YES invade Irag.If ever i've seen someone lie it was on Thursday's conference with Pelosi.I think instead of waterboarding they could just show Pelosi video's (that would make anyone break).What on Earth makes you think anyone elected tells the truth!I don't care what party they are.Come on get real.By the way,whatever Cheney wants,Cheney gets.Just look at all the reversals in the last few weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/15/2009
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I'm not going to defend Pelosi, because I don't know what she knew, but the history of the CIA doesn't give them much credibility either.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/29/1067233244563.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/25/60minutes/main2728375.shtml

Remember Iran-Contra anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 05/15/2009
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While I think Ms. Pelosi is being honest, that indeed the CIA had deceived her and others on the use of torture (Bush denied it was going on for years after all) I also believe Democrats deserve some of this for buying into the reactionary revenge tactics the Republicans had manipulated into a public groundswell.
Giving Bush the power to invade any nation without good, verifiable evidence was a ploy to keep their (and Republicans) "phony baloney jobs" (thanks Mel!).
We the public abdicated our right to govern ourselves as soon as fear and revenge became the primary motivator for our existence. Ms. Pelosi was at one time one of those calming voices. Later, as the midterm elections loomed she acted on her need to stay in power as did other Democrats by speaking of national defense and the war on terror, and the Republicans became a bunch of whiners, claiming that fear and aggression were the only ways to deal with terrorism (funny, since terrorism has been used by human beings for thousands of years and now suddenly it would end civilization as we know it.?... yeah, right).
Where are our spines?
Do we have them back yet?
That any Republican who still defends Bush is still listened to makes that doubtful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 05/15/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 54 fans permalink
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Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 05/15/2009
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You said it well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/15/2009

Bush isn't in office. You guys have spent every dime of the US Govt since Jan. 2007. Like Ron Paul said, stop digging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/15/2009
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I really truly hope and pray the Republican strategy works and they take out Pelosi. Look at who she really is, after all - one of them masquerading in a different label, which is the underlying reason they hate her (much like Hildabeast, who was originally a Goldwater Gal after all). "La Pelosi" is a super-rich white lady from the Bay Area with multiple plastic surgeries who went along every inch with Bush. She is certainly no genuine progressive much less a democrat either with a big or small "D". So if she loses her seat, there are plenty of people well to the left of her ready to step right up and step right in. You lose again, conservatives. The knot of justice is finally tightening around your criminal necks at last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 05/15/2009
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