GOP Base Rejects Pro-Choice Republicans: "We Would Never Bend On That"

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First Posted: 05-15-09 06:07 PM   |   Updated: 05-16-09 12:53 AM

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House Republicans, in search of an identity, are playing with fire.

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), in charge of recruiting Republican candidates for the House, told Bloomberg that the party is searching for people who are "ethnically diverse, female, less partisan and even supportive of abortion rights."

Pro-life organizations have another word for such candidates -- pro-abortion -- and they're not happy to have them in the GOP tent. The Huffington Post didn't have to look far to find conservative groups threatening revolt over the move.

"I think it's dumb," said Joseph M. Scheidler, founder and head of the Pro-Life Action League. "If they start supporting pro-choice -- or pro-abortion -- candidates, they're going to really rile up their conservative base. We don't want pro-choice Republicans or Democrats, because we're issue-oriented, not party-oriented. We'd just as well have our own party."

That party's new branding offshoot, the National Council for a New America, isn't the kind of thing Scheidler has in mind. Bloomberg asked Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the NCNA's willingness to listen to moderate voices, some of which are pro-choice, in policy debates.

"The essence of being a Republican is the belief in free markets, the belief in individual responsibility, the belief in the faith of the individual," he said. "This is what our party is about."

The best thing for the pro-life movement, Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring told the Huffington Post, would be for Republicans to retake the majority.

"Mr. Cantor believes in life, is proud of his pro-life record, and believes that the most effective way for the pro-life movement to achieve its goals is for Republicans to win back the majority," he said in an e-mail. "He believes that effective and continued conversation about our values and principles inspires people to reconsider their opinions -- evidenced by the Gallup poll out today revealing that for the first time ever, the majority of Americans identify themselves as being pro-life, which he was extremely heartened by."

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Michele Combs, a spokeswoman for the Christian Coalition, said she understood the idea of supporting candidates who don't agree with the GOP base on everything. But compromising on abortion? "You can agree with someone less than a hundred present of the time, but the life issue, we would never bend on that issue," she said. "We always support pro-life candidates."

Pro-life groups are in no mood to retreat, having celebrated the Gallup poll Cantor referred to, showing that 51 percent of Americans consider themselves "pro-life" while only 42 percent identify as "pro-choice." (Pro-choice advocates pushed deeper into the survey's data and noted that 76 percent of respondents said they think abortion should be legal in all or some circumstances, while only 22 percent thought it should be illegal. In other words, people said they generally opposed abortion but supported the right of a woman to choose to have one.)

The abortion issue has flared up this week as conservative groups protest President Obama's speech scheduled for Sunday at the University of Notre Dame.

That, said Scheidler, is the issue that drives the base. "They're going to lose their Republican constituency and they're not going to pick up the Democrat constituency, because Democrats for the most part don't vote on issues," he said.

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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- jwredd I'm a Fan of jwredd 53 fans permalink

"We don't want pro-choice Republicans or Democrats, because we're issue-oriented, not party-oriented. We'd just as well have our own party."

Message to republicans: That's your base? You actually admit that that is your base? A group of people who dogmatically cling to a couple hard core principals and only affiliate with any political party because it will be sympathetic to their cause? That is really desperate, shallow, and quite precarious. Good luck with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 05/17/2009
- Bobrobert I'm a Fan of Bobrobert 9 fans permalink

:-)

Satan and his minions in the religious right have done more for the democrats in these last 4 years than the economy has!!!

Dobson and his wife has proven to be satanic backed politicians willing to destroy everything they have to bring down the republican party.

Since all the christians are opening their eyes the devil and his minions are about to implode - thank you GOD!!!

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 05/17/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

Looks like the GOP has lot of training from the Taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 05/17/2009
- jjgg5 I'm a Fan of jjgg5 33 fans permalink

When will Eric Cantor be irrelevant? The clock must be ticking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/17/2009
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The saddest part of the GOP's marriage to the religious right is that most of these GOP politicians could care less about an abortion stance. They know that being "pro-life" will get them the votes of Republicans so they take that stance. The religious right are being used. It drives me nuts that they refuse to see they damage done to this country by the GOP because their pastor says they will go to hell if they vote for a candidate that is pro-choice. Voting on a single issue such as this has always been a huge pet peeve of mine. Fear of "hell" keeps them in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 05/16/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 293 fans permalink

The GOP are ANYTHING BUT PRO_LIFE.

They kill millions for oil.

They are ANTI_CHOICE.

and Anti-life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/16/2009
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Life begins at the moment of conception, and ends at birth...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 05/17/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 293 fans permalink

:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 05/18/2009
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I remember immediately after Bristol Palin's pregnancy became news, Sarah, her mother, explained how proud she was that her daughter had "chosen" to give life. I never heard her say it again. Evidently, she was persuaded from making further similar comments because it was giving credibility to the opposition - the "Pro-Choicer's".

This is a "be careful what you ask for" moment in the conservative movement, because, if Roe v. Wade were reversed, the choice to give life could be reduced from something to truly be proud of, into a mere civic duty. As such, Sarah Palin's decision to give birth to Trig, her child with Down's Syndrome, would be nothing that she could take pride in; the birth would be mandated by law.

Social conservatives have yet to grasp the concept that it is possible to be both pro-life AND pro-choice, as Frank Schaefer so elegantly explains (1). And they couldn’t care less that abortion rates can be reduced by teaching comprehensive sex education, which stresses both abstinence AND teaches effective birth control methods (2), because they are too caught up in ideology. And I for one believe that they will pay very dearly for their rigidness, and rejection of moderates.

(1) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/frank-as-a-former-pro-lif_b_119435.html
(2) http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1886558-3,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/16/2009

Earlier k607 said: "There are more pro-life democrats than there are pro-choice republicans."

A. Where do you get your statistics?
B. If there are more pro-life Democrats why does the Democrat continue nominating tax and spend liberals for President who could never support a ban on partial birth abortion, (which in defense of your party several of the rank and file have said they're in favor of.)
http://theclosetconservative.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/16/2009
- Idea1013 I'm a Fan of Idea1013 86 fans permalink
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Unfortunately, I doubt k607 has any stats to back up the statement made- more likely it was simple an observation made by watching tv and meeting people. Regardless of who is on what side of the issue in which political party- this simply should not be a political debate. A woman's body is her own. Just as I don't believe the government should force me to wear a seatbelt (my loss if I'm in an accident) I also don't believe that it should be able to force me to carry a child to term against my will. I would rather that the option is out there legally; otherwise we're back to back alley abortions and more little girls dumping unwanted babies in trash cans to die. Those are actions that horrify me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/16/2009
- EndTheEcho I'm a Fan of EndTheEcho 9 fans permalink
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Hey in the Closet,

Where are you going with throwing in the "tax and spend liberals" into the abortion debate? That doesn't seem to fit into questioning about "pro-life/anti-choice" party members.

I am pro-choice who does see government spending on social safety net, family planning, and comprehensive sex-ed at doing more to reduce the abortions of unintended pregnancies than a rigid stance of no abortion any time anywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/17/2009
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"We'd just as well have our own party" .. HA HA HA ...go for it pal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/16/2009
- fuelrod I'm a Fan of fuelrod 3 fans permalink

The party does not need pro choice canidates, just a few more pro life blue dogs,,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/16/2009
- aurora57 I'm a Fan of aurora57 5 fans permalink
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Get rid of the pro-life filter and form a party that is truly small government, fiscally conservative and socially libertarian. I would expect healthy debate democrats on the fundamental role of federal government.

I'd love to see moderate republicans break away and bring together their own base. It would be healthy for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 05/16/2009
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aurora ... yeah, you are right ... trouble is ... THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/16/2009
- aurora57 I'm a Fan of aurora57 5 fans permalink
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I was having such a nice dream... you didn't need to yell to wake me up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/16/2009
- Ohioan730 I'm a Fan of Ohioan730 134 fans permalink
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So now they've narrowed it to pro-life v pro-choice as the way to polarize all Americans and turn away the much needed support of pro-choice con serv ative and indy voters. What are they down to now? 15%?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/16/2009

So conservatives are polarizing. But the left who tries to force their beliefs on us by way of the courts that which they could never win at the ballot box is enlightened?
15%. Where did that number come from? Or did you just make it up? http://theclosetconservative.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 05/16/2009

Why be polarizing? This is America, we were founded on being unified, hell it's even on our currency! Driving wedges is easy, its building a strong nation that's difficult. Btw, a strong nation is one that follows the laws it drafts, which would be why a court can't legislate anything that isn't in either the State or the US Constitution, or any of our laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 05/16/2009
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Some things (like a ban on gay marriage) shouldn't be up to the people to vote on - because when the people do vote on it, they vote against the minority. Homosexuals are an extreme minority right now, and sadly, socially-conservative Christians outnumber them by quite a bit.

The Founders NEVER intended for a majority to have blanket authority over a minority - if they did, they'd have crafted the Legislative Branch without a bicameral legislature. Tyranny by majority is a very real concept that should be avoided, and the gay marriage "debate" is a perfect example of that.

I'd probably get slightly miffed if you held to the belief that gay marriage is immoral, but you have the right to say and feel that way. I don't think you have a right to actually enforce that opinion in law, because that's contrary to America's promise of freedom and equality for all - and as long as I don't think you have a right to it, I will go to a court to defend the rights of homosexuals, regardless of what the population voted for.

The religio-fascists are the ones killing conservatism in America. Apart from making the word "conservative" unpopular, they make conservatives look like ignoramii, bigots, and idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/16/2009
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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There are more pro-life democrats than there are pro-choice republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/16/2009
- Idea1013 I'm a Fan of Idea1013 86 fans permalink
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I'm sorry but no. Religious activists are the ones trying to force their beliefs onto others. Liberals generally take the position that I'll live my life, you live yours. Unfortunately some people in this country believe that if you do not follow their religious beliefs, they are evil. Do you know how many times so-called peace loving followers of Jesus have told me that I don't deserve to vote or even live in this country because I'm an atheist? Yet I am not the one trying to change people's religions, control their bodies, or tell them who they can marry. So who's forcing their beliefs down people's throats again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 05/16/2009
- jwredd I'm a Fan of jwredd 53 fans permalink

"But the left who tries to force their beliefs on us by way of the courts that which they could never win at the ballot box is enlightened?"

Funny, it felt like W was forced on us by the courts. The republican "base" as noted in this article are completely driven by religious ideology and enter into the political spectrum only to advance legislation that will support their beliefs. With that in mind, you're actually claiming that the left are the ones forcing their beliefs on everybody else?

If you really want to stand behind that comment then could you please provide a couple of examples that show liberal "beliefs" being forced on anybody through the courts? And court decisions that prevent religious beliefs (yours, mine, or anybody's) from infringing on anybody's freedoms and rights (roe v. wade) would NOT support your claim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 05/17/2009
- Vere15 I'm a Fan of Vere15 26 fans permalink
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For most of these people, prolife ends at birth and doesn't resume again until rigor mortis sets in. Please, Please, Please call a spade a spade - these people are the ANTI-LIFE party

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/16/2009
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vere

Allow me:

"THEY" come in 2 phases.
phase 1 - fetus - they are AntiCHOICE
phase 2 - outside womb - bye bye

the AntiCHOICE crowd can't stand the born babies, they call them: trash, welfare slugs etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/16/2009

What's really interesting is that the Democrats haven't been running ads saying, "Pro-choice, allowing you the freedom to choose how your life unfolds by getting the government out of it!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/16/2009
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Republicans, take your poor, bigoted, racist, uneducated states, and fly away. Go sit in the corner, suck your thumb. Or, drop dead. Take you pick.

If you worried as much about Living People, soldiers, orphans, the hungry and the abused....it would make a lot more sense. But you dont.

Your ISSUE is now and will always be the Bible and what YOU think it says. Why do you think separation of Church and State is SOOOOOO important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 05/16/2009
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