Inside Higher Ed:
In many academic circles, being attacked by Bill O'Reilly might be a badge of honor. A Syracuse University professor, however, charges that he was denied tenure last week in part because of the fallout over his on-air disputes with the Fox television star, who has branded him "a new Ward Churchill."
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He didn't get tenure! Oh, poor baby! Name another job where you can't get fired no matter what you do or say. Tenure is a joke.
has any-one making comments actually seen williams slobbering over o'reilly's every utterance- it is both demeaning and embarassing to watch
Watkins again tried to play the race card - it works for some but didn't work for him. That's why he's pizzt
But this is the point of the right.
Lie, cheat, steal and smear to force their vile, outdated ideology down the throats of the majority.
I'm the father of a bi-racial son and I'm a Democrat. And there isn't enough space here for me to say how much I despise Bill O'Reilly. However, the story's slant -- and the professor's -- are untruthful with regard to O'Reilly's comments about Sylvia's Restaurant. Way back when that incident occurred, I Googled for a transcript of O'Reily's remarks. It was clear he was being ironic to make a point about white people who avoid traditionally black parts of town. If I remember right, he also was mocking how the media tends to focus on a limited aspect of black culture. We should go after O'Reilly for real issues, not invented ones.
I'm assuming you're white and your bi-racial son is part black...please forgive me if I'm wrong. Even though you have a bi-racial son you have yet to truely understand minorities if you cannot understand why a black person could be upset by this statement. But let me try to help you understand through the use of storytelling.
Currently I am a black lawyer. While in law school I was selected to give one of the commencement speeches for graduation. After my speech around 50% of the white people who came up to me said "You speak so well". And while I just smiled and said thank you, but in my head I said well how the #### did you think I was going to speak?!?!
Now these white people were not overtly racist, however; the problem with this statement, as well as Billos', is that many white people presuppose blacks to all be a certain way: Loud and ignorant. And when a black person exceeds this predetermined standard that white society has set up, the response is "Wow I didn't know you could do that". It's actually very demeaning...so while Bill might have been trying to say that Sylvia's was a great place to eat he should have left the racial commentary at home.
PS what you consider mocking, others consider playing to his audience...
Al Sharpton also supported O'Reilly on this as well as Juan Williams. The professor along with some competing networks attempted to make O'Reilly look like a bigot by putting words and thoughts in his mouth.....much of what they reported was out of context.
Bill O'Reilly's behavior is indefensible.
Even to the man himself.
All you need to do is look at many of his declarations, and then compare that to his behavior -much of the time he decries his own behavior if committed by other people - but when somebody points it out, he bizarrely claims he's the good in a battle of good against evil!
The man is absolutely delusional - which suits his audience to a T.
i watched the whole sorry episode and o'reilly was purposely being condecending and insulting
I would recommend waiting for actual evidence about what happened here, rather than immediately declaring this a matter of racism. All I can say is that Boyce Watkins' grand-standing and his broad accusations of racism against his colleagues make me suspicious of him. This doesn't mean that race didn't play a role here, but I don't see any sufficient evidence in the article that it did.
Any university official knows the firestorm that ensues when a faculty is denied tenure, especially if it's a minority faculty. Usually those decisions are not made lightly or on the basis of a TV interview. Tenure review deals with 5 years of academic accomplishment. That doesn't mean this was a good decision, but I personally will withhold judgment on the matter.
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It is great to see the success of BOR.
Ailles thinks more of GE than BOR., at least their money
GE ads are frequent of FAUX NOISE despite the BOR hate spin of GE.
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YOU GOT TO BE KIDDIN" ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND. LADY PLEASE!!!!!
I attended SU from 1999-2000. I graduated within a year of entry. I witnessed some of the most racist attitudes by white students and faculty. I was in a classroom one day and a black freshaman entered the room. She did not know her way around campus and asked three white girls if such and class was in that room. They said no. The african-American girl left. WOW the laughter which followed. I could not believe on a national university campus such behavior was ok.
Wake up.. SU has/had some real racial issues. Unless they wake up and face these issues-black face, racism, prejudice will rule on that hill.
I have lived in Syracuse all my life and graduated from SU (as did most of my family). I have never experienced any type of racism associated with the university.
I am also in the education field and I can positively state that people who don't get tenure are usually either totally incompetent or a complete obnoxious fool that an institution doesn't want to be stuck with.
After reading this article and Watkin's statement, I am pretty sure that he is "a blowhard". Unfortunately, tenure appointment is confidential and the university will not be able to tell us why he was really denied...unless he goes ahead and sues the school. I'd love to hear their side of the story.
So I guess since you didn't experience any racism it didn't happen right? I don't know if you're black or white or whatever, but you seem to have the reasoning of a 12 year old. I actually know white people who live in Syacuse and they tell me that northern NY is quite racist...it's admirable that you don't associate with racist people, but don't make comments when its clear you inhabit a fantasy world.
So I guess that since you have never experienced racism at Syracuse, 1) this didn't happen and 2) no one at Syracuse is racist. Your reasoning resembles that of a 12 year old. Its clear that Watkin's is not incompetent, and obnoxious fools are tenured every single day. The only 3 things that should be considered for tenure are research, teaching, and service to the university. Watkins published a lot, so the question is whether or not his teaching and service were up to par. It is clear that Watkin's got under the skin of some of his colleagues in the Finance department...why else would they be emailing each other behind his back. Also note that Finance is still very conservative and white male dominated so please don't act like what Watkins said is out of the realm of possibilities.
still trying the race card are we, treboi?
just keep this in mind when you see a diploma on the way from good old SU that they seem to feel that facts are changable, if you don't like them then make up your own like Billdo tries to do. Not exactly what I would want in a doctor...
DOH ..."on the wall"
"My colleagues are good people, but they ha.te me for being different," Watkins said.
Is this guy for real?
They might disagree with him. They might think he is harming their institution, or judging him for his "extracurricular" activities.
But to suggest that they ha.te him? That's the problem with race baiters like him. Always a big chip on his shoulder, and so quick to start judging and impugning people as ha.ters when things don't go his way.
You are an id iot! And a rac ist!
Wow, what an intelligent post. So impressive.
are you looking in the mirror, meah?
KFC, your views are one of the reasons this is still going on.
Hmmm judging and imugning people eh...Hey Pot your BLACK! And this statement comes after you read a couple articles about the situation...I guess you, the wise sage of know-it-all, is an expert on exactly what happened right? How about you save YOUR judgements. I know its probably hard for you as a privileged white person to understand that maybe the man was disliked by his colleages because he was outspoken and Black. I mean you can't deny the fact that the university did treat him differently than any other professor. I mean really you act like racism is dead in America....Just because Obama was elected doesn't mean white people get a pass now.
So he's in the center of the situation, yet there YOU sit on your throne, completely removed and entirely ignorant except for what Billo has thrown out - and there you sit, righteously calling HIM a race-baiter and quick to judge?
You seem like the perfect type of Bill O'Reilly viewer: no critical thinking, so self centered and righteous that you can't see the woods for the trees.
Aaah, the irony, and the righteous hypocrisy of a keen Fox subordinate.
It's with a mixture of humor and sadness that we see you folk destroying yourselves with your righteous, ignorant and bigoted ways..
Watkins is an obvious twit
Listen: If Watkins' perspective had been part of the public voice in newspapers they would not now be sinking and irrelevant. It is true that we need many perspectives expressed just as Professor Watkins does -- intelligently and without vitriol. It is too bad that the university quashed his tenure opportunity, rather than support him for the courage he displays when he presents a view that not too many people know or have heard before, but which the Black community discusses among themselves everyday.
This isn't really about O'Reilly. Watkins says things that make his colleagues uncomfortable. It's not racism or discrimination or censorship to want faculty members to reflect the tone of the institution.
In particular, calling for NCAA sudents to be paid is not really a wise career move for a non-tenured professor. It also reveals that Watkins doesn't understand how the world of business works-- not a good trait for a finance professor.
How is calling for NCAA students to be paid uncomfortable or not a wise career move? Is it because most of those athletes are black and that cuts into the money-machine of these colleges? These kids are practically indentured servants whose bodies are being chewed up for the benefit of those who've never taken a tackle or dunked a ball in their lives. So he should shut and be a good black boy and don't give the other blacks ideas? You're shading an underlying ra.cist and elitist viewpoint as "good business" as if black athletes are still slaves on a plantation. THIS is the kind of BS that is so incensing. And then pointing it out becomes "playing the race card"? You have the whole deck and you want blacks to shut up and take a bad hand.
You're doing it again, interpreting other people's motives rather than answering their points. It's a bad habit.
Then yo compare pampered college athletes (I am from a basketball university, I know what I am talking about: they get tutors, celebrity, chance of going professional, etc.) with indentured servants and slaves. Nice. You do realize that you are marginalizing the experience of slaves here, don't you? I bet you don't. I am just saying this because I am a white racist, blah, blah. It gets boring, you know?
Any college atheliet should not be payed.
most ncaa athletes are not black.
It's about time a university did the right thing when one of it's cretinous professors is caught being a cretin.
Wonder if Billo is growing for just the normal c0mb0ver or a Tump special?
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Posted: 05-18-09 09:00 AM