Netanyahu Tells Obama: Palestinians Must Accept Israel's Right To Exist

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STEVEN R. HURST | 05/18/09 11:44 PM | AP

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President Barack Obama answers a reporter's question as he meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, Monday, May 18, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Monday opened his deepest foray into the Middle East quagmire, telling Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu he must stop Jewish settlements and should grasp a "historic opportunity" to make peace with the Palestinians.

Obama also had pointed words for Iran on a second major Mideast dispute, warning the Iranians they had until year's end to get serious about talks with the world community on curbing their nuclear ambitions. "We're not going to have talks forever," the president said.

Obama and Netanyahu spoke highly of their hopes for progress in the Mideast after a lengthy private meeting in the Israeli's first visit to the White House since Obama became president and Netanyahu began his second stint as prime minister. Yet the new president was firm in insisting the Israelis move toward peace with the Palestinians, and Netanyahu stuck to his stance that Israel cannot negotiate with people who deny its right to exist.

The two leaders found fruitful grounds for agreement on Iran.

Israel is deeply concerned about Iran's perceived attempts to build a nuclear weapon, believing the virulently anti-Israeli regime might naturally target the Jewish state the lies in easy range of Tehran's missile technology.

Beyond that, the Iranians have been a key sponsor of anti-Israeli Islamic militants who refuse _ as does Tehran _ to accept Israel's existence. Most dangerously, the Iranian-funded and armed Hamas organization currently runs the Gaza Strip, while Hezbollah, the other Iranian proxy, has historically harassed Israel with rocket attacks from Lebanon on the north.

The Bush administration diplomatically bludgeoned Iran over its nuclear efforts but refused to formally engage the Islamic government in Tehran. Obama, deeply concerned that a nuclear-armed Iran could spark an arms race in the Middle East and deepen the threat to Israeli security, has changed course and seeks to engage the Iranians in direct talks.

So far there has been no positive Iranian response. Obama said he assumed the country's leadership was distracted with its presidential election campaign but thought he would be able to gauge Iranian seriousness in the coming months.

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"We should have a fairly good sense by the end of the year as to whether they are moving in the right direction and whether the parties involved are making progress and that there's a good-faith effort to resolve differences," the president said.

Iran insists its nuclear program is intended solely for civilian electricity generation.

With Netanyahu at his side, Obama said he had told the new Israeli leader during more than two-hours of talks that his government must move quickly to resume peace talks with the Palestinians and had insisted negotiations start from a previous agreement on the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"We have seen progress stalled on this front, and I suggested to the prime minister that he has a historic opportunity to get a serious movement on this issue during his tenure," Obama said. "That means that all the parties involved have to take seriously obligations that they have previously agreed to."

Obama told reporters that serious negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians would be possible only if Netanyahu ordered an end to the expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank, land that would make up the Palestinian state along with the Gaza Strip.

"There is a clear understanding that we have to make progress on settlements; that settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward," Obama said, referring to past negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians.

Netanyahu said he was ready to resume peace talks with the Palestinians immediately but he also said any agreement depended on their acceptance of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. It was not immediately clear in the way he phrased the response whether Netanyahu was demanding that as a precondition for talks.

"There's never been a time when Arabs and Israelis see a common threat the way we see it today," Netanyahu said, speaking of a sense of urgency felt throughout the Arab world about Iran's nuclear program.

The Israeli leader did not respond publicly to Obama's demand on an end to the expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and refused again to say he was ready to negotiate a so-called two-state solution to the nearly 60-year dispute with the Palestinians. The plan, endorsed by the United States and other parties pushing for peace between the historic foes, calls for establishment of a Palestinian state side by side with Israel.

Palestinians offered praise for Obama but expressed disappointment with Netanyahu's remarks.

Netanyahu "did not mention a commitment to a two-state solution, and we need to see American action against this policy," said Nabil Abu Rdeneh, an aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who visits the White House on May 28.

Saeb Erekat, the top Palestinian negotiator, issue a similar assessment:

"Mr. Netanyahu failed to mention the two-state solution, signed agreements and the commitment to stop settlement activity. He said he wants the Palestinians to govern themselves. The question to Mr. Netanyahu is, 'How can I govern myself while your occupation continues everywhere in the West Bank and Gaza, and how can I govern myself under your wall, roadblocks and settlement activities?'"

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AP writers Amy Teibel, traveling with Netanyahu, Mohammed Daraghmeh in Ramallah, the West Bank, and Diaa Hadid in Jerusalem contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS spelling of Nabil Abu Rdeneh and scheduled date of Abbas visit to May 28.))

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Monday opened his deepest foray into the Middle East quagmire, telling Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu he must stop Jewish settlements and should grasp a...
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- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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anybody on this post read the latest National Geographic article on christian arabs in the region? very interesting and germain to how regional players treat minority populations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 05/20/2009
- petera63 I'm a Fan of petera63 14 fans permalink
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O is too green to lecture Netanyahu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/19/2009
- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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N is too arrogant to listen to his superiors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/20/2009
- FebM I'm a Fan of FebM 37 fans permalink

Netanyahu wants the Palestinians to acknowledge that Israel is a "Jewish state." I don't understand this demand. Israel is not a Jewish state, it is a multi-cultural state, with about half a million non-Jewish Russians and Ukrainians and 20% of its population is Arab. If "Jewish" is meant religiously, then observant Jews are actually a minority of the population in Israel. If "Jewish" is meant racially, then it is a particularly shameful demand. It is like demanding either that the US be recognized as a "Christian" country or as a "white" country. Obama was ill-advised to use the diction, himself.Ju­an Cole

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/19/2009
- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Interesting thought ... much the same as Iran as a Muslim state... or the vatican as a christian state.

Except Israel continues to claim secular governance and democracy.­..and the other 2 make no such pretense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 05/20/2009
- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Does each individual Palestinian need to make the declaration before they will negotiate? How high is the hoop that they must jump through? What a pathetic joke... and a pathetic US populace that falls for that crap. Is it also a pathetic administration that panders to these kooks? Time will tell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 05/19/2009
- betz55 I'm a Fan of betz55 39 fans permalink

Oh come on. We give Israel 10 million dollars a day. Think of what that money could do for us here in the US.

If Bibi wants a timeline for Iran then there better be a timeline for the withdrawal of those illegal settlers.

Israel's modus operandi is to delay peace and and any talk of truce for as long as it takes to colonize the occupied territories. First is was the PLO, then it was the Palestinians not agreeing to those BS pre-conditions, then it was Hezbollah, then Hamas, now Iran.

No aid until the Israeli leave all illegal settlements and they are bulldozed to the ground.

No aid until the Israeli leave East Jeruselem and stop their 'natural growth' excuses.

No aid until the wall is removed.

No aid until all Palestinian prisoners are released.

No aid until the Palestinians are given full right of return.

No aid until the Palestinians can live in security and not be subjected to apartheid, terrorist treatment from the Israeli's.

No truce aiduntil the Golan Heights and Shabaa Farms are returned to their rightful owners, not the Israelis.

No aid until Israel signs the NNPT and allows IAEA inspections.

No aid until Israel is held to the same standards as the rest of the Middle Eastern countries in all respects, especially nuclear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 05/19/2009
- petera63 I'm a Fan of petera63 14 fans permalink
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These $10M a day stay in the US and go towards work places in US companies. This money never goes to Israel - that's reqired by US law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 05/20/2009
- Bramble8 I'm a Fan of Bramble8 4 fans permalink

The gig is up... Israel must stop building settlement­s... The right- wingers in Israel need to be reigned in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 05/19/2009
- sixx I'm a Fan of sixx 11 fans permalink
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Kabuki Dance? Netanyahu was elected not to negotiate, not to end annexation, not to accept two party state. Her opponent Livni ran with these ideas and was defeated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 05/19/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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And "moderate" Livni is just as bloody as the rest of them -- bombing civilians in Gaza a thousand times over and not even lifting a finger to arrest colonization of the West Bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 05/19/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

Hamas, the ruling party in Gaza, attacks Israel on a regular basis and you attack ISrael for responding.
You attack israel for allowing settlements on the West Bank, claiming it as Palestinian territory. As I recall when the West Bank was taken during the 1967 war it was lost by Jordan. No Palestinian state, but lost by Jordan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 05/19/2009
- Confused1 I'm a Fan of Confused1 3 fans permalink

Think what you want, but Netanyahu will not be licking Obama's boots anytime soon. Netanyahu cannot be bullied or intimidated by Obama. The best Obama could expect is that Israel will sit down at the table for discussions. Building new settlements will not stop, regardless of what Obama wants. Israel is fighting for it's survival and wil not let their guard down to appease the US or anyone else. They may as well start planning the bombing of Iran now as there will be no progress with the Iranians by years end. Iran is determined to eliminate Israel and will not stop their nuclear military agenda. I don't think this administration has the backbone to do what will eventually have to be done to Iran to stop them. It is not a good situation anyway you look at it and neither the Palestinians nor the Iranians are really interested in living amicably with the Israelis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 05/19/2009
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No. Typical short-sighted thinking/reacting.

Israel's actions have always been against their own best interests.

Thinking they can invade and steal another country without long term consequences is delusional.
Thinking they can improve their security situation by attacking others "pre-emptively" is just as delusional.

Israel knows this, which is why they have such a huge investment in the propaganda of fear and revisionism. Israel feels if they can keep the fear level high enough and keep repeating a revisionist history, they can keep what they have and eliminate the other guy....bef­ore the Zombies finally are able to hear the voices of fairness and reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 05/19/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

Your posting includes several allegations that are patently false.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 05/19/2009

OliveTreeNews has extensive analysis of a potential Israeli strike on Iran featured on their website. I found it to be very informative and useful in gaining a broader perspective in relation to the expansiveness and risks associated with such an operation. You definately should check out their coverage to gain the necessary knowledge - OliveTreeNews

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 05/19/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Very interesting study.

Key finding: it is questionable whether Israel has the military capability to destroy Iran's nuclear program, or even to delay it for several years. Therefore . . . it is likely that Iran will possess nuclear weapons in a relatively short time.

The report goes on to say that Iran has no suicide wish and will not use nuclear weapons to attack Israel.

I would add, why should they, when the Israelis are doing so well undermining their own future?

Who wants to live in a state in a perpetual state of war? Young, talented people can live very nicely in the US or Western Europe, make a good living and never worry about a rocket attack, or have to live behind a reverse-ghetto wall.

That's the real threat to israel, and it can't be solved with nuclear weapons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 05/19/2009
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Exactly.
Israel is their own worst enemy and always has been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 05/19/2009
- balrog221 I'm a Fan of balrog221 21 fans permalink
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Israel and internal religious elements supporting Israel have become significant special interest groups in our political system. To criticize these groups or more specifically their influence and ideas, is to bring on accusations of anti-semitism or in the case of christian fundementa­lists...un­americanis­m. Analysis of how to conduct our diplomacy should be absent these religious agendas to the extent possible. Agree bad nations may at times be neccesary allies, but they should not have undue influence in our internal decision making as does Tel Aviv.

Extremism is the culprit, but we only have the will to deal with Islamic radicals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 05/19/2009
- philoffal I'm a Fan of philoffal 3 fans permalink

Avigdor Lieberman named to U.S.-Israe­li gov't post

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/10/Lieberman-named-to-US-Israeli-govt-post/UPI-36371241984266/

The appointment means Lieberman will become Israel's point person on the 10-year-old strategic dialogue effort, which serves as a multi-agency, high-level framework for discussions of U.S.-Israe­li strategic concerns, The Jerusalem Post reported.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 05/19/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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I doubt that the Israelis will ever agree to dismantle the settlements or agree to a really viable Palestinian state. Here's a map of "Palestine" with the Israeli settlements and "Jews only" roads woven inside - - -

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/270-palestines-island-paradise-now-with-a-word-from-its-creator/

One democratic state with equal rights for all, not just Jewish residents, is the only answer.

But that's unlikely without another series of wars and dangerous confrontations. Israel has too much influence in the US, it's going to take a monumental foreign policy disaster to change that. It's logical for Iran to develop nuclear weapons, in response to Israel's nukes, and a "preventive" attack on Iran would trigger unthinkable consequences. Plus, the Iranians would then certainly develop and deploy nukes. If they're smart, they already have secret projects going in impregnable mountain sites.

One thing is certain, the US' Israel-uber-alles policy will collapse. We can't possibly "police" a world that increasingly turning against our insane policy. Afghanistan is tottering, Pakistan may be destabilized in a few years. Muslim fundamentalists are about to take control of Somalia -- a somewhat more convenient route for Iranian arms to reach Gaza. Oh yes, those intrepid blue-eyed Israeli pilots will bomb, but they can't cut off the flow of arms.

Brace yourselves for more war, more death, possible stratospheric oil prices on top of a global recession.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 AM on 05/19/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

Dude Obama, foreign policy you can play with in your next term. Fix the economy first and ensure your re-election. Keep the evil republicans out of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 05/19/2009
- SSF I'm a Fan of SSF 31 fans permalink
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The only thing President Obama has to do is remind "Bibi" about who's paying the bills. Which countries' military and economic aid keeps Israel afloat from one month to the next....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 05/19/2009

Well the President is certainly giving a green light to Israel and a warning to Iran, talking won't last forever. If Iran fails to stop uranium enrichment the President will let Israel do what it needs to do or help in the process. With that possibility neutralized many other muslim countries will breathe a sigh of relief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 05/19/2009
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