Green Day Vs. Wal-Mart

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NEKESA MUMBI MOODY | May 21, 2009 01:03 PM EST | AP

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Green Day members, from left, Mike Dirnt, Billie Joe Armstrong and Tre Cool pose at the Mercer Hotel in New York, on May 15, 2009. (AP Photo/Bruce Gilbert)

NEW YORK — Green Day has the most popular CD in the country, but you won't be able to find it at your local Wal-Mart.

The band says the giant superstore chain refused to stock its latest CD, "21st Century Breakdown," because Wal-Mart wanted the album edited for language and content, and they refused.

"Wal-Mart's become the biggest retail outlet in the country, but they won't carry our record because they wanted us to censor it," frontman Billie Joe Armstrong said in a recent interview.

While Wal-Mart sells CDs from acts known for raunchy content, including Eminem's latest, they offer customers the "clean" version of those CDs, which are edited for content that may be objectionable. But in Armstrong's view, "There's nothing dirty about our record."

"They want artists to censor their records in order to be carried in there," he said. "We just said no. We've never done it before. You feel like you're in 1953 or something."

"21st Century Breakdown" contains curses and some references considered adult.

Wal-Mart said that it's the company's long-standing policy not to stock any CD with a parental advisory sticker.

"As with all music, it is up to the artist or label to decide if they want to market different variations of an album to sell, including a version that would remove a PA rating," Wal-Mart spokeswoman Melissa O'Brien said. "The label and artist in this case have decided not to do so, so we unfortunately can not offer the CD."

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But bassist Mike Dirnt said: "As the biggest record store in the America, they should probably have an obligation to sell people the correct art."

Not being sold at Wal-Mart didn't stop the band _ which kicks off a U.S. tour summer tour in Seattle on July 3 _ from landing at the top of the album charts this week. "21st Century Breakdown" sold about 215,000 copies since it's debut on Friday.

The album is the follow-up to their multiplatinum, Grammy-winning CD "American Idiot," and like that album, deals with weighty topics. While "American Idiot" spoke to the frustration over the presidency of George W. Bush and the Iraq War, this CD speaks to the loss of innocence and confusion in today's society.

While Armstrong, Dirnt and drummer Tre Cool are still top-sellers without Wal-Mart, Armstrong said the store's policy is disappointing, considering it has become the dominant seller of CDs with the decline of traditional music stores.

"If you think about bands that are struggling or smaller than Green Day ... to think that to get your record out in places like that, but they won't carry it because of the content and you have to censor yourself," he said. "I mean, what does that say to a young kid who's trying to speak his mind making a record for the first time? It's like a game that you have to play. You have to refuse to play it."

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NEW YORK — Green Day has the most popular CD in the country, but you won't be able to find it at your local Wal-Mart. The band says the giant superstore chain refused to stock its latest CD, "2...
NEW YORK — Green Day has the most popular CD in the country, but you won't be able to find it at your local Wal-Mart. The band says the giant superstore chain refused to stock its latest CD, "2...
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By banning Green Day 's new album, you have just placed yourself amongst the other poor decision makers of American Industry! On this Memorial day weekend, you have just kicked soldiers,s­ailors,air­men and marines squarely in the face and marginalized their great sacrifice! How? they fight AND die so you have the right to choose Is Walmart saying that Americans cannot decide on their own what is safe for their consumption, and that Mighty Walmart must carry the Moral Torch and make that decision for all American consumers?How dare (Walmart) decide for me and an entire nation what to buy and what to purchase! If I deem the lyrics of their album offensive then I as a parent should make that decision NOT YOU! Those soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines are working somewhere in the world today to keep YOU safe or have they too lost that right? I served in the military and was able to visit the old East Germany before the wall came down, it was similar to what's going on here now, on the surface some freedoms but when something, book, album, TV show, newpaper article came out the Kremlin did not agree with they simply MADE THE DECISION TO REMOVE OR RESTRICT IT, kinda like what Walmart just did!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 05/24/2009
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...and yet, a quick check of walwart's website confirms that they sell all of the torture-tainment "saw" movies in glorious blueray high definition (in their "horror > slasher" section, no less).

if there's one thing i hate worse than a fascist, it's a fascist hypocrite.

good for green day. best rock band in the world today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 05/23/2009

Here's a simple way to protest this kind of censorship. Go to Walmart and load your basket with goods that will equal a nice sale for them. After the cashier checks the items through and asks for your payment, ask him or her if they have the newest Green Day CD. They will probably not know if the store carries it or not. The next step is to ask for the manager. Ask him or her the same question. They will probably be aware of the situation and tell you "No, we are not carrying it" to which you reply "then I'm not doing business with you". You then walk out of the store leaving the unpaid goods sitting on the counter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 05/23/2009
- learntofly I'm a Fan of learntofly 195 fans permalink
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Only problem is that you'll wait in line to check out for half a day, with their crack store security team checking out the pores on your skin the whole time, with no customer service or no manager coming to the cashier area - period, and when you've had enough & go out to your car - you find it has been gang smashed by 100 shopping carts.

You know it's true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 05/23/2009
- probo I'm a Fan of probo 207 fans permalink
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Get a bunch of your friends to do the same thing , sounds like a nice peaceful protest to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 05/23/2009

Spread the word! Lets make a news story out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 05/23/2009
- ibivi I'm a Fan of ibivi 12 fans permalink
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To do as you advise is harassment of the workers at WalMart. They have enough to do without wasting their time with your gesture. If you want to do something about their policy write to their corporate headquarters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 05/23/2009
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I agree with ibivi. Being mean to the workers proves nothing. And, I hate wal-mart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 05/23/2009

What is this concept of ..buying..music? You realize you're all posting on the internet and it's readily available for free all over the place if you cared to look? I'm not advocating pirating Greenday's CD but in the case of other CD's you might've bought at Walmart, by all means download them instead of giving Walmart more of your money, they don't deserve it for the horrible way they treat their employees. Can't work there if you are in any need of health insurance or benefits, because a company that mainly buys from China instead of the US to make an extra buck, sure as hell isn't looking after their slaves--I mean employees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 05/23/2009
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Not only don't they hire people that need insurance, but none of the cashiers or stockers are technically "full time", so they don't have to offer hardly any of them insurance to begin with. I know three people that work at our local WalMart, and they keep them at 36 hours a week, and then force them to restock after they punch out if it takes them longer than their allotted hours in a shift to finish the job. And if they don't do the restock off the clock, they get fired, because our town has such a high unemployment rate that there is a long line of people waiting to take their job. That's if you can get past the rah-rah cheer they make you do before a shift. Bunch of whackos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 05/23/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 247 fans permalink
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Does anyone have a list of all the artists they've done this to? F--- fascists. Some funny family values they practice anyway.

Seeing Green Day back reminds me of my (very) early teen years. Remember when Green Day was totally lame -- and how now they're like the edgiest thing out there? A testament to the sad state the music industry finds itself. On the plus side, was it just me or was Billie lookin' a little Robert Smith minus the makeup on Colbert? ...probably just me. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 05/22/2009

I hate Greenday and love Wal-Mart. This is music to my ears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 05/22/2009
- kitten645 I'm a Fan of kitten645 4 fans permalink

If you love walmart, try working there...talk about an American Idiot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/22/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 247 fans permalink
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I'm willfully interpreting that comment as sarcastic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 05/22/2009
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figures...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/23/2009
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token must be tokin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/23/2009
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I've been boycotting the evil empire for the past 6 years. Viva la Target! I'll gladly pay the $1.50 extra or whatever it is. My principles are worth something to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 05/22/2009
- learntofly I'm a Fan of learntofly 195 fans permalink
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You sound exactly like me. I've been boycotting them for about as long (should have started earlier). While I'd rather not spend money, it does give me great pride in knowing that Wal-Mart has not gotten thousands of my dollars. Target all the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 05/22/2009
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I will not spend a single penny with this vile organization. They are determined to impose their values on me and others and they are bad for local economies in general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/23/2009
- probo I'm a Fan of probo 207 fans permalink
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Never would I ever step foot in that place, they will ruin every other business if we continue to support them. I dont need anything they sell, and Im not just talking merchandise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/23/2009
- SaintZak I'm a Fan of SaintZak 20 fans permalink

Good for Green Day! I hope others follow their lead and not-sold-at-Walmart become the cool badge of honor.

I've never spent a dime at Walmart, and don't intend to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/22/2009
- Madmac I'm a Fan of Madmac 17 fans permalink
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Do you know the enemy?
Do you know your enemy?
Well, gotta know the enemy wah hey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 05/22/2009

If that is their policy, who cares. I agree with Wal-Mart on this. They use the fact that parents, grandparents can walk into their store buy their kids, any CD and it won't be parental advisory. If a band chooses not to change their CD, good for them, but they can't complain, they knew the deal going in.

I personally think that censoring music is silly, we don't have PG versions of R movies for sale (not counting cable TV) so we should only have one version of a CD, but that Green Day knew Wal-Mart wouldn't sell it, Eminem (who had a CD come out on the 19th) knew, and he made a clean version, he chose to, they didn't. They had a choice, Wal-Mart had a policy, live with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 05/22/2009
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That was the whole purpose on putting the stupid PA stickers on them in the first place. So i diotic parents and grandparents that don't know any better could tell if there was objectionable content in them, when buying their precious little closeted children CDs for Christmas. WalMart just wants to censor music. It was bad enough when bands were forced to put the PA sticker on in the first place. Now a Chinese rip-off retail chain is demanding that they change their music in order for it to go on their shelves? I guess WalMart doesn't just get it's stock from China - it THINKS it IS China, and that it is OK to censor art.

I don't see them taking all the "F" words out of their R rated movies. Or the sex. Where does WalMart get off thinking that censoring music is fine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/23/2009
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Here's what I don't understand about the policy: They don't want to sell anything with a PA sticker, so instead they insist on "clean" versions. (Safe to assume I wouldn't be able to pick up Lily Allen's song "F*** You" there, hm? GREAT song, btw! Check it out.) Now, knowing that anyone who would willingly shop at Wal-Mart must be an idiot, let's imagine this scenario:

Grandma goes to Wal-Mart and buys little Jimmy Eminem's latest CD for Christmas. Jimmy really likes it, so the next time Eminem puts out a CD, he bugs his mom to get it for him. But Mom goes to Target, Amazon.com, anywhere other than Wal-Mart, to buy that CD. She's heard the CD Grandma bought, so figures the artist must be okay.

And suddenly Jimmy learns exactly what a potty-mouth Eminem is.

Possible?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 06/09/2009
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I'm rooting for Walmart

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 05/22/2009
- drumz I'm a Fan of drumz 53 fans permalink
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Why? To be funny I hope...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/22/2009
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Seems like your name is accurate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/23/2009
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yup -doltish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/23/2009

This just reinforces my decision to move away from the bright shiny lights of Wal-Mart/Sam's Club to those who are more deserving of my money. Glad I left you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 05/22/2009
- rmonroe I'm a Fan of rmonroe 6 fans permalink
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Screw Walmart. I think I will stop shopping there. They act like they are the moral authority on everything and that they rule the world. When are people going to wake up and boycott those idiots. Everyone just make sure when you buy the new Greenday CD you do it while doing ALL your shopping somewhere else but WALMART!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 05/22/2009
- drumz I'm a Fan of drumz 53 fans permalink
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I have only walked into a walmart just to see what the fuss was about. I took about 10 steps in and made a U-turn. That smell of plastic and popcorn and the tons of obese men, women and children was disgusting.

I will never step in one again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 05/22/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 316 fans permalink
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Had Green Day titled the CD "Made In China", Wally World would have jumped on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 05/21/2009
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Say it loud!!! Say it clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 05/23/2009
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Cheers! Anyone who shops at that place is a wrong in so many ways. They have no respect for their workers rights whatsoever. They sell crap from China that is constantly putting US workers out of jobs and they are raking it in from the poor and middle class who could care less about where their stretch jeans and tube tops come from. These people wonder why the country is going down. Every purchase you make from this place sells our country out. I am truly glad they are not in the city I live in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 05/21/2009
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