Mancow Waterboarded (VIDEO): Conservative Radio Host Say It's Torture

Erich "Mancow" Muller, a Chicago-based conservative radio host, recently decided to silence critics of waterboarding once and for all. He would undergo the procedure himself, and then he would be able to confidently convince others that it is not, in fact, torture.

Or so he thought. Instead, Muller came out convinced.

"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow said. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back... It was instantaneous... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face... I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "

Here's video of Muller getting waterboarded:

And here's his conclusion:

Christopher Hitchens underwent nearly the same experiment last year. He, too, concluded that waterboarding is torture.

Comments

[JohnHKennedy]

re: lib2dbone
"Sean would have to takeoff his lipstick & eyeshadow first. Just saying ..."

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[DCX2]

Playboy journalist gets waterboarded

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/playboy-journo-bets-he-ca_n_189280.html

[Tony581]

Has anyone noticed that the waterboard­ing/tortur­e issue really comes down to CIA versus FBI versus the US Army. The FBI was against waterboarding and other forms of torture from the beginning of the stupidly-named "War on Terror." When the CIA insisted on torturing captives, the FBI withdrew from questioning captured terrorists. The Army was also against torture, but CIA operatives insisted on using torture and on telling army prison guards ways in which they should abuse their prisoners (at Abu Gharaib and at other prisons).
Conservatives have firmly supported the CIA over the FBI and the army. Why? Because Dick Cheney and his corrupt minions orchestrated the torture program from the start and issued marching orders to the CIA. The CIA was the tool of the Cheney administration (not sure what George W was doing). The conservatives are not acting from patriotism, but from self-preservation.

[AnthonyVolpe]

We didn't need Hitchens or Mancow to tell us waterboarding is torture. We already have LAWS that tell us it's torture and we've had them for over a century.

[ENOS]

I'm pretty sure that the prisoners we've water boarded got a much fuller experience.

[harriettubman]

Plus, some of the soldiers say they had to burn cigarettes on the men too. WTH was going on there?

[slaxx]

that was quick. but i guess when the water goes up your nose, it automatically goes into your lungs?

i gotta say though, the guy looked like he was acting.

[RTIII]

Apparently you're next in line - ready? If not Shuddap.
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[Gover]

Yeah it does work that fast. That's why it's an effective torture.

Would this torture have really worked for 600 years if it wasn't that bad?

[PC Contrarian]

To be on point, "Mancow" also mentioned that the experience reminded him of when he almost drowned as a youngster. I suppose that his physiological memory of that trauma enhanced his experience.

That's not to say that someone else like Gov. Ventura didn't also consider waterboarding torture.
However, for someone who has not been waterboarded; it's reasonable that they may issue a legal opinion that it's not torture. They could be sincere that it went up to the defintion of torture, if they hadn't experienced it and they felt an urgent need to get information.

Perhaps waterboarding did not produce any new or valuable intelligence, or perhaps it did. It's premature to decide that, given what we know.

Not every decision that has negative consequences has a sinister origin. There's such a thing as "unintended consequence".

[slaxx]

unintended consequences? such as false information? death?

[RTIII]

Howabout the unintended consequences of making is very much less safe by providing a recruiting tool against us, by providing cover for people to torture OUR service-people, and by literally giving away our "moral authority" in the world?
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[EFCaiden]

Or even using torture to get false information about Saddam Hussein having WMDs leading to a War in which 1.3 million people we killed?

[babina]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathaniel-frank/fear-you-can-believe-in_b_207311.html

[NHGranite]

Just because your minions give you an opinion to the contrary doesn't make torture into EIT. The only person I know who has been water boarded for sure besides this guy is Jesse Ventura, and 2 out of 2 say it's torture. Our laws and conventions of war say it's torture. We have soldiers fighting overseas to preserve the rule of law. I guess that doesn't mean much in this country anymore, but you cannot fight a moral war against those who would use barbaric practices if you torture.

I suspect they don't hate us for our freedoms alone. They hate us for the things we have done while we espouse something else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms

[phlashba]

What the He$$ is a "moral" war?

[OC4Obama4Pres]

WWII

[LeftRight]

It's a war that we don't start. Such as WW2, where we didn't start fighting until we were already attacked.

[phlashba]

"our"? Really?

[Aristophanes Smith]

Here are a couple more cases of people who were waterboarded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448717

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1579920046?bctid=20047560001

[Chad53916]

The second link is the most disturbing, even though there is no video. I had no idea it was that bad.

[JohnHKennedy]

Please stop calling IT waterboarding.

IT is Torture. Torture is a Federal Capital Crime.
Prosecute all those who ordered Torture or conspired to violate our laws.

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[ENOS]

It should be called Water Boarding becuase that's what it is. Don't be so extreme to expect something different than reality.

[SARGE1]

CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE
and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading
Treatment or Punishment

http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html

Torture Is Against The Law

-Sarge

[RRG64]

Excellent link Sarge....

"No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture."

[SARGE1]

Thank You

Dick Cheney and his minions are Sociopaths they feel they are above the rule of law. The truth and fact mean nothing to them, week minded people they strike fear in and the Chicken-hawks beat war drum they will never march to.

-Sarge

[gohuskies]

waterboarding video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj8tCtsFags

[JohnWoods]

Waterboarding is a euphemism. Let's call this what it is: pouring water up a person's nose so he or she cannot breathe and immediately feels life is in danger, which it might be. It is very painful. It is very dangerous, and it is very scary. If that's not a definition of torture, I don't know what is.

[Moshe]

They use terms like "enhanced interogations" because the term "torture" actually appears in criminal statutes and "waterboarding" etc., does not.

Of course that is like calling a serious criminal assault "enhanced confrontation" or bankrobbery a "direct monetary transfer" but so far even these thin smoke and mirrors have been enough to confuse the issues and keep the war crimes prosecutions at bay.

That and it's pretty easy to sell to people what they already want to hear, and there are millions of Americans, many of them in high government positions, who want to believe that when other nations do this it's torture, but when the U.S. does it after 9/11 it's just "enhanced interogation."

[jamessch]

You know world governement's do worse than waterboarding.
I'm not too concerned with the issue.
Look up the emirates video.

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[PC Contrarian]

Of course you're not concerned with this issue.
What could be more important than making sure gays immigrate to our country?

[kappa08]

no worries...nobody of literate value will immigrate to this country. Look around, do you know anybody from France, Germany or England planting roots here? Let me answer that for you. NO. Why would they come to a country ranked 13 in quality of life, the worst violent criminals in the world and that includes our government not to mention 37th in health care behind heavyweights like Colombia and Peru....
Sorry America you are no longer number 1 especially after what has been grown from the past 20 years of Republican hate bating, fear mongering and the literal insecurity of an electorate that thinks a deity will "guide them"....

[TreadingWater]

So, if other governments do worse, we're okay? Man, that leaves us a lot of wriggle room. I mean, we could still kill about 5.9 million people in Iraq, but at least we're better than Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot. In my personal life, I don't steal, kill, cheat on my taxes (which is another form of stealing), but under your moral guidelines, as long as I'm not Charlie Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer I'm doing okay? That gives me a lot of room to enrich myself at other's expense, because no matter how much I steal I will never steal as much as Cheney's buddies at Haliburton.