Analysis: NKorea widens threat, limits US options

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ROBERT BURNS | 05/25/09 10:46 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — North Korea's nuclear test makes it no likelier that the regime will actually launch a nuclear attack, but it adds a scary dimension to another threat: the defiant North as a facilitator of the atomic ambitions of others, potentially even terrorists.

It also presents another major security crisis for President Barack Obama, already saddled with wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a nuclear problem with Iran.

Obama spoke Monday night with the president of South Korea and the prime minister of Japan, assuring both leaders that the U.S. remains committed to the defense of their nations. The White House said in a statement that Obama and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak agreed that the test is "a reckless violation of international law that compels action in response."

It's far from clear what diplomatic or other action the world community will take. So far, nothing they've done has worked.

At an earlier juncture of the long-running struggle to put a lid on North Korea's nuclear ambitions, the administration of President Bill Clinton in the mid-1990s discussed with urgency the possibility of taking military action. That seems less likely now, with the North evidently nuclear armed and the international community focused first on continuing the search for a nonmilitary solution.

Meeting in emergency session in New York, the U.N. Security Council on Monday condemned North Korea's nuclear test as a clear violation of a previous U.N. resolution banning such testing. The council said it would begin work immediately on a new legally binding resolution.

The North's announcement that it conducted its second underground test of a nuclear device drew quick condemnation across the globe, including from its big neighbor and traditional ally, China. The Obama administration, which said the North's action invited stronger, unspecified international pressure, has consistently called for Korean denuclearization but seemed not to have anticipated a deepening nuclear crisis.

Just two weeks ago, the administration's special envoy for disarmament talks with North Korea, Stephen Bosworth, said during a visit to Asian capitals that "everyone is feeling relatively relaxed about where we are at this point in the process." If so, they are no longer.

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Obama, appearing Monday in the White House Rose Garden, condemned the nuclear test and North Korea's subsequent test-launch of short-range missiles. He called the actions reckless and said they endanger "the people of Northeast Asia."

North Korea conducted its first atomic test in 2006 and is thought to have enough plutonium to make at least a half-dozen nuclear bombs. It also is developing long-range ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads, in defiance of U.N. actions.

One of the first estimates of the size of Monday's nuclear explosion came from the Russian defense ministry, which put the yield at between 10 and 20 kilotons _ comparable to the U.S. bombs that flattened Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan in August 1945. But a senior U.S. administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it appeared the explosive yield was much smaller, perhaps a few kilotons. The official said more technical analysis would be done in coming days.

The administration official also disclosed that North Korea notified the State Department less than one hour before the explosion that it intended to conduct a nuclear test at an unspecified time. The U.S. then notified China, Russia, Japan and South Korea, the official said.

The United States could still try to resuscitate so-called six-party talks with the North as well as work with other members of the United Nations. North Korea has vowed not to resume participation in the six-party talks with the U.S., Japan, South Korea, China and Russia.

Reflecting his view that only unified international action will compel North Korea to change course, Obama said that Russia and China, as well as traditional U.S. allies Japan and South Korea, have come to the same conclusion: "North Korea will not find security and respect through threats and illegal weapons."

The Bush administration worked hard to get China, in particular, to press the North Koreans to denuclearize, and it seems likely that Obama will push equally hard with Beijing, which sided with the North Koreans against U.S. and United Nations forces during the 1950-53 Korean War. In recent years the Chinese have openly criticized the North Koreans for the nuclear arms program.

Two of the main worries about North Korea are left unsaid: Would it use a nuclear bomb to attack a neighbor or the United States? And might it continue an established pattern of selling nuclear wherewithal and missiles to foreign buyers?

Graham Allison, an assistant secretary of defense in the Clinton administration and now director of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University, said Monday that the international community regularly underestimates North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's willingness to do the unexpected.

"Could this guy believe he could sell a nuclear bomb to Osama bin Laden?" Allison asked in a phone interview. "Why not?"

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Robert Burns has covered national security affairs for The Associated Press since 1990.

(This version CORRECTS to show that Obama spoke with the president of South Korea and the prime minister of Japan.)

WASHINGTON — North Korea's nuclear test makes it no likelier that the regime will actually launch a nuclear attack, but it adds a scary dimension to another threat: the defiant North as a facili...
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China sides with the Burmese (Mayanmar) Miltary Junta.

China sides with the Maosts in Nepal.

The Chinese sides with the P0rky Army/ISI instead of the P0rki civilian govt.

China sides with every two bit d!ctators in Africa.

China sides with Sudan dicttat0rs.

China sides with Srilakan Army who just K!lled so many Tamils and vi0lated all kinds of Human rights.

China sides with Iran

China sides with all the nasties around the world.

And now China sides with N.Korea.

CHINA is the father of the Axis of EviI!

YET..you have Oshama and PeI0si sucking Ch!nese Sausage! ARSEHOLES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/27/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 400 fans permalink
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You're doing it wrong. When a Democrat (and only when a Democrat) is President you're supposed to call them "Chi-Coms". And then forget that the Bush administration spent just as much time sucking up to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 06/03/2009
- Logout I'm a Fan of Logout 3 fans permalink

Good on N.Korea. They are just following P0rkistan which is being rewarded with $30 Billion by John Kerry and Oshama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/26/2009
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

John Kerry?

Do you really want to sound that silly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 05/26/2009
- Logout I'm a Fan of Logout 3 fans permalink

Who is the silly one here?

John Kerry is headng the foreign relations committee. He is the godfather of funding P0rkistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 05/26/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 400 fans permalink
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And your option is what? Let the Taliban take over a nuclear-armed country?

I'm no great fan of the Pakistani government but if there ever was a lesser-of-two-evils I'd say they're it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 06/03/2009
- PCMinistry I'm a Fan of PCMinistry 27 fans permalink
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That pic with the two chicks in uniform is kinda hot. Just cut old kim jong out of it and Bam!, Hot Totalitarian chicas~!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 05/26/2009

Maybe North Korea is goading the South into a war, thinking China and Russia will side with them if the US intervenes. But why should it be only the US intervening? Shouldn't Romania step up to the plate for once?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 05/26/2009

A country the size of a postage stamp cannot be possible a grave threat to the US. There is no point for panic. It will be dealt with accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/26/2009

I suppose Egypt shouldn't worry about Israel then, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/26/2009
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

Camp David Accords

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/26/2009
- Kirby I'm a Fan of Kirby 21 fans permalink

Egypt is out of the picture in terms of worrying about Israel, and why should it have to worry about Israel? Egypt needs US money, and is not about to renig on its peace treaty with Israel. Egypt is out of the picture in any equation potential for posturing. Israel is thus given a free rein to pummel and decimate Palestinians all the more, thanks to the U. S. taxpayers' payoff on behalf of Israel. More importantly for Israel, it has been given a free rein to further enlarge itself in the West Bank and East Jerusalem which it has effectively done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/27/2009
- sb250guy I'm a Fan of sb250guy 28 fans permalink
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The picture on the front page of this article (Kim, with the two army women) deserves a caption contest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 05/26/2009
- jdlund I'm a Fan of jdlund 7 fans permalink

Look this is incredibly simple. Wack Kim Jong Ill. We have special forces, CIA assassains, and other black ops people who probably don't exist on paper. You take out Kim and make it look like one of his people did it to take over North Korea. Then you start a little conflict between the members of his executive committee, presumably by pinning the assassination on a well chosen member, and let them fight each other. We make deals with one of them to put an individual in power we reasonably trust in exchange for certain concessions and the whole thing dies down. It's easy.

We've done it before. This time I might even be in favor of it. It's the thing that was unforgiveable about George W. Al Qaeda would be a lot easier to fight through use of our intelligence agencies and special ops people. Bombing the crap out of Afghanistan only spread them around and made it worse. Iraq only liberated groups that would add to the overall chaos of the region and give them a common enemy-us.

But that was the thing with Georgie he wanted a surface war, he wanted the credit, he wanted to appear right rather than do right. You don't fight people who fight in the dark by turning the lights on. You fight in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 05/26/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 102 fans permalink
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No, Bush WANTED chaos, because in chaos they could steal. And they sure have, haven't they?

Gosh, I feel so much SAFER today; don't you all?

Bush let this madman get nukes. And he didn't care because there was no oil under their property.
THAT'S the simplicity­...we've been robbed in the name of "safety" of our economy AND of our "safety".

Tell me again what "National; Security" means?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 05/26/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 277 fans permalink

Chaos and war are good for business and fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 05/26/2009
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 4 fans permalink

china is the only nation that can stop nk. it has done nothing nor will it. the only way to get china motivated is for the west to give japan first strike nuclear capabilities. china & nk worst fears are a nuclear japan. this is one arms race nk will lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 05/26/2009
- OneTop I'm a Fan of OneTop 92 fans permalink
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Who is North Korea going to attack ?

What possible reason or advantage could they achieve by attacking any country ?

There really isn't any arms race, as North Korea is just trying to join the club. China, Russia and Japan (by proxy with the USA) have them surrounded with nuclear weapons.

So what's the issue ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 05/26/2009
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 4 fans permalink

they are not going to attack anyone exept to fire dummy warheads over japan's, sk's & our airspace to shake us down for more money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 05/26/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 400 fans permalink
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The danger is, they might decide "Hey we're going to starve anyway. Might as well go for it." and attack South Korea and/or Japan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/03/2009
- auegg I'm a Fan of auegg 5 fans permalink
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Kim Jong Il is a hottie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 AM on 05/26/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/26/2009
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 4 fans permalink

especially in his brand new elevator lifter shoes, all three feet of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 05/27/2009
- cloudmaker I'm a Fan of cloudmaker 65 fans permalink
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The scariest thing about North Korea is not that they have, or my soon have,
nuclear weapons. What's more frightening is that a little tiny shrimp of a man
with a weird haircut who looks like he could be crushed by a tennis racket
has millions of Koreans terrified and suffering under his regime. If that's
possible in Korea, it can happen anywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 AM on 05/26/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 102 fans permalink
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You got it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 05/26/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 400 fans permalink
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We don't even really know how much power he has, or if he's just a figurehead for the North Korean military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 06/03/2009
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-Mogamboguru: "Mourning the fallen this day (Memorial Day) is of the same value as crying crocodiles' tears."

-VegasBabe: "COSIGN!"
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American LEFTIST values

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 AM on 05/26/2009
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

With silly comments like that, you should be looking into a new sock.

Your old one has holes in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/26/2009
- Logout I'm a Fan of Logout 3 fans permalink

IiberaI Iefty Pel0si is in China sucking some Chinese sausage! She can do that to Kim of N.Korea as well during this trip1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/26/2009
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Pel0si is the one who is supposed to f!ght for Tibetens! What a sell out these Iefti Iiberals are eh?

They have absolutely no principles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 05/26/2009
- postman66 I'm a Fan of postman66 353 fans permalink
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Now you are talking to yourself. Put the drink down and go to bed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 05/26/2009

Give it a rest. I know Nancy's responsible for everything that's gone wrong in your universe since the beginning of time...but it might be time to move on to someone else to hate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 05/26/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 107 fans permalink
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Now she's responsible for the f/ght of Tibetens.
Oh good lawd! That's a new one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 05/26/2009
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

thanks for the laugh, CH's!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/26/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 102 fans permalink
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I'm sure the hate list goes on and on. Bush gave America permission to hate and all the totalitarian types ( like you) just jumped om the bandwagon.­..screamin­g 'Daddy! Keep us SAFE!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 05/26/2009

I know this is a simple concept, but no one seems to note the obvious. This is the world that the US created. We developed the bomb in response to a perceived threat from the Germans in WW2, and then used it on an otherwise beaten Japan. It is my opinion that those two events were intended to start a permanent state of war, later to be called The Cold War. The juxtaposition of the Soviets declaring war on Japan right in-between Hiroshima and Nagasaki is no coincidence. Nuclear weapons were an industrial bonanza without a reason to justify their existence.­..until the Cold War was invented.

America remains, hopefully forever, but likely not, the only country to use weapons of mass murder (Bush referred to them in this way multiple times) against entire cities. The fear we feel, is the fear of our own making...a nuclear Pandora's box that we are guilty of opening. Inevitably, someone, somewhere, sometime, is going to use one of these hideous weapons again, and it is because America saw a massive profit opportunity, the biggest in the 20th century as it turned out, and the rest is history.

Then look at the meddling in the affairs of sovereign countries this country has done since then, starting with Iran in 1953, and can anyone wonder why we are not the beloved "shining city on the hill" of fantasy? More like the blood soaked city on the hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 05/26/2009
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Weapons of mass murder. Yes, UK. Strategic bombing. Germany V-1, V-2. How about chemical warfare during WWI. Chlorine gas. Millions dead in the Iran-Iraq war, they used chemical weapons. Japanese used chemical warfare in China, think Unit 731. So yes, we are guilty but so is the rest of humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 05/26/2009

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Also, the US was demonstrably involved in extending the length of the Iran/Iraq war that took the lives of more than a million human beings. Reagan was at least partially responsible for that atrocity. If we'd stayed out of it, the war would have come to an end a lot sooner, and a lot fewer people would have died...but instead, we provided weaponry to both sides, among them chemical weaponry with our copyrights on them. Reagan took Iraq off the terrorist nations list, so that US (and other multi-nationals) could take advantage of the incredible profit potential of Saddam being flush with cash from oil production during his time in power. This was a win/win for US multi-nationals, profits as far as the eye could see, making the enemy of our enemy our friend (for the time being) and the possibility of retaking control of the Iranian oil fields if Saddam succeeded with western support.

And, if you want to go to Germany, now many US companies supported that butchery? A lot. IBM for one, Standard Oil for another.

The US has been complicit at some level in just about every example you state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 05/26/2009

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None you mentioned immolated a hundred thousand people in a moment.

I know a great deal about Shiro Ishii and Unit 731 as well, and he was a monster that this country embraced and protected after the war (he died peacefully in his home in 1959). Bad choice to use as comparison though, since he became a willing tool of the US after the war, in it's fledgling biological weapons development. For that matter, they might consider renaming Fort Detrick, Fort Ishii...an­d that's no joke. He helped to move that facility into serious bio-weapons development that has threatened the world ever since.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/26/2009

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I just have to add, although it's unlikely you'll read this, that "the rest of humanity" is a pretty broad stroke in this regard. I'm not blaming the aboriginal people's the world over, or the people of Jamaica, or Botswana, or say, Finland. There's a small club of WMD users, but the king hell master of this regime is the United States. We still have the largest arsenal of nukes, and refuse to adhere to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that Iran has been demonstrably in compliance with (at least until proven otherwise). We threaten Iran every single day, while casting a blind eye to the known nukes in Israel. And the reality of Iran is this, we interfered in their internal affairs in 1953, in a way that has driven us to the future we now inhabit. If we had left that nation alone, and allowed it to move in the democratic direction it had already embraced, this world would have been a very different place, and millions who died would never have died.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/26/2009

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The US has been cancerous since the end of WW2. The reasons can be debated, but the reality of this countries nefarious and insidious nation crushing and nation building can't be debated. This country has driven democratically elected governments out of power, and replaced them with US corporate friendly hard-line dictators again and again and again...to this very day. It's ALL about profits over lives...an­d that is a sickness that the world has to find a vaccine for. I don't know what that is, but the time is short, and the world is nearing a tipping point into chaos. I hope I'm wrong...bu­t I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/26/2009
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No doubt - we are a mean, nasty, violent, selfish, greedy, abominable, detestable, execrable, odious, unlovableabhorrent, abominable, accursed, awful, bitter, blasted, catty, confounded, cursed, cussed, damnable, damned, despicable, despiteful, detestable, disgusting, evil, execrable, forbidding, foul, gross, heinous, horrid, infamous, invidious, loathsome, malevolent, malign, mean, odious, offensive, ornery, pesky, pestiferous, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, resentful, revolting, shuddersome, spiteful, uncool, undesirable, vicious, vile country. I'm sure there are a bunch more synonyms that I couldn't come up with. It is quite obvious that all the people that are begging to get in this country are unaware and will be in for the shock of their lives right after they take the oath of citizenship. The very least that they could do would be to join the HP and back up your views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 05/26/2009

You are a simpleton. There's a whole lot more going on around you than you will ever know.

Have a nice day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/26/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 102 fans permalink
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Well, they have a justification in the wondrously "safe, cheap and clean" nuclear power plants....­which can also be used to make bombs to end the life of the planet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 05/26/2009
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"The Kim Jong-il administration has learned the hard way that there is no point in negotiating with the United States government. Pyongyang's Plan B envisages the country going it alone as a fully fledged nuclear weapon-armed state, with a military-first policy, and then growing into a mighty and prosperous country."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/26/2009
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You meant " mighty hungry country"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/26/2009
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I suppose a preemptive attack to remove the nuclear capability is off the table, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 05/26/2009
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You wouldn;t do it to P0rkistan. Now, why would you do that to N.Korea?

Where did you get the courage all of a sudden?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 05/26/2009
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North Korea has the means to retaliate against South Korea and Japan. And they might, depending on what the "preemptive attack" looked like. Millions could die. Also, if it gets hairy, China's not going to take too kindly to it, either. Not saying this is good or right, but it's reality. This one isn't that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/26/2009
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N.Korea is China's creation. And you don't even know this basic thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 05/26/2009
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