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Nathan Deal, Georgia Lawmaker, Wants To End "Birthright Citizenship"

First Posted: 06/26/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:25 PM ET

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AP -- U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal, a Republican candidate for governor of Georgia, has proposed changing the long-standing federal policy that automatically grants citizenship to any baby born on U.S. soil, a move opposed by immigrant rights advocates.

Supporters of Deal's proposal say "birthright citizenship" encourages illegal immigration and makes enforcement of immigration laws more difficult. Opponents say the proposed law wouldn't solve the illegal immigration problem and goes against this country's traditions of welcoming immigrants.

Automatic citizenship is enshrined in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which says: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." That provision, ratified in 1868, was drafted with freed slaves in mind.

Deal and his supporters say the 14th Amendment wording was never meant to automatically give citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants.

"This is a sensible, overdue measure that closes a clause that was never meant to be a loophole," said Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which seeks tighter immigration restrictions.

Under Deal's proposal, babies born in the U.S. would automatically have citizenship only if at least one of their parents is a U.S. citizen or national, a legal permanent resident of the U.S., or actively serving in the U.S. military.

Azadeh Shahshahani, director of the Immigrants Rights Project of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia, said the proposed law "is not cognizant with the American spirit."

"We would stand in strong opposition to this bill as it's in fundamental contradiction to our nation's long history of welcoming immigrants and bestowing inalienable rights" on all people born here, regardless of the circumstances of their birth, she said.

Supporters of the bill say automatic citizenship provides an incentive for women to risk coming to the country illegally. They call U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants "anchor babies" because, when they become adults, the children can sponsor their parents for legal permanent residency.

"Coming into the country for the express purpose of having a child in order to anchor that child and yourself is, in effect, gaming the system," Dane said.

Lisa Navarrete, vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group, said the proposed law wouldn't stem illegal immigration and would make the problem worse because not only would illegal immigrants be undocumented, their American-born children would be too.

"The worst part of it is you end up with potentially millions of children who are stateless, who were born here and have no ties to any other country, yet they're not considered citizens or part of the United States," she said.

Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, a group that favors restricting immigration, said the policy of granting automatic citizenship to people born here is "out of sync with the modern world." He and Deal said that the U.S. is one of the few wealthy industrialized nations that still allows birthright citizenship.

Deal, who has submitted his bill to the House Judiciary Committee, said he's not optimistic about it becoming law this year unless it is tacked onto another bill.

"I think the current makeup of the Congress is such that this will never get a hearing and will never be an issue that we get a chance to vote on," he said. "But I think it's important to keep the issues that are part of the immigration problem alive."

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08:09 PM on 05/30/2009
This bill is so silly! I am a proud Mexican-American, my mother was born in the USA and dad born in Mexico. Does that make me half "anchor baby." At the time I was born my dad already had his "green card" so I guess I'm ok? My mom's parents where born in Mexico but their parents brought them to California in around 1910-1912. Both my grandparent were babies. Is my mom an anchor baby? In reading the various posting regarding bill HR1868 it seems to be foucsed on Mexican's. Why is that? I don't have the stats but MANY people from all over the world come to the US illegaly. This bill seems to be part of the message of hate promoted by the republican party. This bill is a sad day for America.
08:40 AM on 06/02/2009
Anyone born to parents who are here ILLEGALLY, no matter which country they come from, should not get citizenship. PERIOD!
02:00 PM on 06/03/2009
No, because your mother was a legal citizen.
10:38 AM on 05/29/2009
This is a phony piece of legislation that will never in any way reduce illegal immigration. What WILL?? To make sure all employers who have hired illegal immigrants are charged with crimes and incarcerated, stripped of their citizenship, and stuck in a penal colony on some remote island, because those employers are TRAITORS of the United States. When they stop hiring illegals, illegals won't be coming in the first place. GREED, not humble immigrants, caused this problem.

Having said this, please refrain from calling me a bigot, because nothing is further from the truth. I have been very involved with illegal and legal immigrants for a very long time, and to some degree I speak for them, because they will tell you the same as I have: As long as there are jobs, they will keep coming!! No Birthright legislation is going to solve illegal immigration that WE invited to occur.

Furthermore, I am an "anchor baby", because my mama was an immigrant who remained a British subject until her death. And I'd be darn upset if this were the 1950s and I was about to become a woman without a country. Why punish innocent children for the crimes of their parents' employers??? this legislation being proposed is sheer hypocrisy.
05:47 PM on 05/27/2009
Exact text of HR 1868, for those who care to read it:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:1:./temp/~c111N1DHsR::
11:30 AM on 05/29/2009
No we can't afford it, but this proposal is a farce. It's a bandaid disguised as preventive medicine.

Have they really fooled you into believing this will in any way reduce illegal immigration? Sorry, but this is the wrong approach. The problem BEGAN on this side of the border and it has to be FIXED on this side of the border: Lock up all the employers who hire illegals, and I guarantee you, employers will stop doing it, and illegals will have not reason to come here without papers.

I called Nathan Deal's office today and had a lengthy conversation with his people. Vote NO on this unless you hate innocent children and want them to be citizens of NO COUNTRY.

What are these people thinking??!! Trying to pretend they are addressing the immigration issue, and fooling lots of people too. You don't put bandaids on a wound, you prevent the wound in the first place!!! You don't address the symptoms, you address the cause, and then you avoid the symptoms in the first place, just plain BASIC LOGIC!!
05:39 PM on 05/27/2009
We can't afford it anymore and that's the new economic reality.
Babies= healthcare = family reunification = more healthcare/foodstamps = massive debt.

To contact your Congressperson:

1) Find their email address. Enter your zipcode at http://www.house.gov/Welcome.shtml using the "Find Your Representative" box (in upper left).

2) "HR 1868 - Please vote YES" should be the subject line. (HR# is critical)

3) Be thoughtful, non-inflammatory, nonpartisan. Avoid "14th amendment", "slaves" and other marginalizing references. Stay on a finance/solvency track. (Just my opinion.)
05:35 PM on 05/27/2009
Millions of people from all over the world struggle to work within the system to come to this country legally, I've never voted Republican in my life, but I would vote for this amendment.

While I would be open to finding ways to make legal immigration easier, I don't , in any way, support any person that comes across our borders illegally.

The people that cross the border illegally, come to this country to work, they don't want to contribute the the mosaicv that is America, they just want a pay check. All of this illegal immigration is changing the fabric of the country (press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish), today, I saw my first commercial that was entirely in spanish on NBC no less.

Why is it OK for illegal immigrants to game our system, break our laws, march in our streets demanding rights and then have some of my fellow democrates (including our President), "Boo Hoo" the poor illegals and tell me that I have to understand and accept them.

Sorry, but this time I'm on the Repubs side, we should also lock up any employer that hires illegal immigrants, dry up the jobs and they will go home and maybe start working to clean up their country instead of causing a burder in ours.
11:20 AM on 05/29/2009
Ditto!! Funny how folks are so afraid of the scary brown people and their language. when are more AMERICANS going to learn a second language, like most of the world?? So many people in this world speak multiple languages, and there are many of these immigrants who speak a whole lot more English than people think they do!

I raised my kid (and now am tutoring my grandkids) to speak Spanish, after all, our closest neighbors are just across an imaginary border and I figure it's nice to be able to communicate with people who we will no doubt run into frequently. Americans are getting dumber every year, and it's by design. The powerful don't want us to have second languages or much knowledge of anything real. It's all about buying stuff. We are so dumb apparently that Gillette thinks we need videos to show us how to shave.

Go ahead people out there, keep putting down the Spanish, and see where you end up. Or get off your lazy butts and learn at least a second language, if not several. And no, I'm not Latino, I'm the product of an immigrant and an American (age: 53). I'm what now would be called an "anchor baby", and I guarantee you, I'm not giving up my birthright.
04:52 PM on 05/27/2009
You know I might be on board with this if it wasn't coming from a racist background..because when people start complaining about illegals or whoever only speaking Spanish and that they should learn English it just makes me completely ignore anything they have to say about immigration reform.
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You don't happen to make it. You make it happen.
03:52 PM on 05/27/2009
Taxation without representation !
02:29 PM on 05/27/2009
So much for give us your poor, your tired, the huddled masses. Sad.
04:40 PM on 05/27/2009
That was gone quite a while ago. It should read, "run for the border, squirt out a kid, and you're home free".
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foofoobunny
02:13 PM on 05/27/2009
I am so embarrassed to be a Georgia resident right now.
02:11 PM on 05/27/2009
If only the indigenous people of this land felt as these European Americans feel. Weren't the white folks who came to these shores illegals according to their definitions? They came to a land that was occupied by people who were doing just fine before the white invasion. Had their land taken from them, were murd.ered and captured. Now the few that are left are told they are the trespassers. Who are the real so called Americans? Conservatives and liberals have a lot to answer to. There is no good or bad side to both groups in this matter.
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ChazAtlas
01:29 PM on 05/27/2009
I am a 38yo, Black male from South Carolina who 99% of the time votes Democrat. I voted for Obama. I will vote for Obama again. I will vote against my GOP incumbent congressman again. WIth that being said, I wholeheartedly support the end of birthright citizenship.
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saldunn
02:55 PM on 05/27/2009
Also AA, how long do you think those racist old white men of the south will consider you an AA to be not american. If this wasn't from the south I would consider. But since we are talking about the south I would give it another thought. Look how they treat blacks now.. please brother think about what you say. I would suggest the people of the south start to rise up first.
11:48 AM on 05/27/2009
Although I rarely agree with a Rethug. I think this makes a lot of sense. I'm a first generation immigrant and my parents worked their asses off and suffered through the immigration process with green cards. I married a foreigner and it has taken me cumulatively over 4 years to get my naturalization and my family visas, which meant we lived apart for years which caused unbelievable amounts of personal pain and financial suffering, and it pisses me off to no end when I see folks take a short cut based on some loophole. So maybe it's just sour grapes on my part but considering the cost to our social nets which are already strained, I think requiring that at least one parent be a US citizen or legal alien seems like a fair enforcement of birthright citizenship.
10:56 AM on 05/27/2009
Why do you think California is broken? Since then Gov. Regan gave amnesty to 2 million plus illegal working immigrants, the state has been used as the illegal immigrant campground. Cross the border, have your baby and you get free healthcare and schooling for the rest of your life. Our hospitals had to close because they couldn't operate on the free caregiving system for the thousands of immigrants. Our public schools have deteriorated, instead of teaching in English we have to teach classes in another language. And unlike our ancestors before us, the common thread to becoming an American citizen was English. It has put a huge burden on our state and we are crumbling.

I have a lot of Latino friends. That is not the point. The practice of crossing the border, having your baby and then becoming a welfare case in the US has to stop. The social services set up to help Americans have been depleted. We have been giving to others so long, there is nothing left. Our system is broken.
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AverageJose007
04:26 PM on 05/27/2009
As a 4th generation Mexican American, I feel that it is time to amend the clause. As California is a exapmle, it is immigration gne viral. It has now become a cancer, the situation not the people.
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whatdoyasayjay
10:38 AM on 05/27/2009
If they actually get support, someone should convince them to make it retroactive. That way they'll have to boot us all out.

Not to mention that most of these politicians are old enough to be not that far removed from relatives that were immigrants. Making it retroactive would ensure these folks ARE NOT citizens

Seriously, there's bigger problems to Deal with, Mr. Nathan.
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mookworthjwilson
10:03 AM on 05/27/2009
I say everyone should have to take the citizenship test at 18 (unless of course if you have a mental disability). If you fail you lose your citizenship at 19 and are sent to Texas. I guarantee you most of these right wingers and rednecks couldn't pass the citizenship test if their life depended on it.
08:43 AM on 06/02/2009
As long as the test is in English only go for it.