Obama Administration Cites Secret Statements By Petraeus In Asking Judge To Block Abuse Photos

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DEVLIN BARRETT | May 28, 2009 06:02 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration asked a federal appeals court Thursday to halt the release of disturbing images of detainee abuse, saying the photos could incite violence in Pakistan as well as in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The court papers filed in New York cite two partially secret statements from two top U.S. generals, David Petraeus and Ray Odierno.

Such arguments failed to sway the court in the past. In the new filings, Petraeus, who oversees U.S. military operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, said the images could also lead to more violence in Pakistan because it deals with Taliban attacks.

The filings underscore just how worried U.S. officials are about the increasing violence in Pakistan. While past arguments about the photos referred generally to the Middle East, Petraeus' statement spends several pages discussing Pakistan's recent struggles against terrorism.

The administration had planned to release the photos until President Barack Obama reversed the decision this month, saying their release would endanger U.S. troops serving in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Disseminating the photos poses "a clear and grave risk of inciting violence and riots against American and coalition forces, as well as civilian personnel, serving in Iraq and Afghanistan," according to the motion filed with the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court.

Meanwhile, the Defense Department on Thursday denied a British newspaper report that some of the images showed U.S. personnel sexually assaulting detainees. The Daily Telegraph had reported that a former U.S. general said graphic images of rape and torture are among the pictures.

The photos were ordered released as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.

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The Bush administration had also fought their release, and lost.

ACLU lawyer Amrit Singh said the new filing by the Obama administration "has no new arguments" and will be opposed. She also criticized the Obama administration for redacting parts of the generals' arguments about the safety threats posed by the photos.

"It's troubling to us that not only is the government withholding the photographs, but it's also withholding its arguments for withholding the photographs," said Singh.

The court ruled in September 2008 that general concerns about public safety were not specific enough to merit blocking the release of the photos.

The motion filed Thursday also notes that the government plans to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court.

Congress is also considering stepping in to block the photos' release.

Odierno, who commands the troops in Iraq, said in his statement to the court that the 2004 release of photos of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison "likely contributed to a spike in violence in Iraq" that year. He also said he has been told by senior political officials in Iraq that release of the photos would upset the democratic process in Iraq before national elections.

The pleas by Odierno and Petraeus echo those in 2005 by Gen. Richard Myers, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration asked a federal appeals court Thursday to halt the release of disturbing images of detainee abuse, saying the photos could incite violence in Pakistan as we...
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration asked a federal appeals court Thursday to halt the release of disturbing images of detainee abuse, saying the photos could incite violence in Pakistan as we...
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- Acidic I'm a Fan of Acidic 6 fans permalink

I'm convinced that there nothing left in this country but sado-masochists. I think we all have a general idea of what is in those photos. They are not needed to get the outcome you fringe freaks desire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 AM on 05/31/2009
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After hearing that these photos contain images of r a p e and other types of heinous abuse, I agree that they should not be released to anyone other than the jury that should determine whether the people who perpetuated the abuse should rot in prison for the rest of their lives.

After these revelations, I really don't understand how President Obama can fail to prosecute the people who are responsible for this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 05/29/2009

Obama is very good at covering things up. I suspect the courts will listen to Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/29/2009
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I'm betting they won't. And when they demand he release the photos, he will not have to take the flack from the Republics for doing so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 05/29/2009
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The US Constitution 1787 - 2009 R.I.P.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 05/29/2009
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What part of the constitution involves the release of these photos?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 05/29/2009
- GalenL I'm a Fan of GalenL 2 fans permalink

1787 - 2001 ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 05/29/2009
- Acidic I'm a Fan of Acidic 6 fans permalink

1787-1787...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 AM on 05/31/2009
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 46 fans permalink
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Sooner or later the truth will out, just ask the catholic church!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 05/29/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 104 fans permalink
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Bush Chnney made us the ev/l-doers.
Bush Chnny and Friends are the axis of ev/l.
Bush Chenny started a mushr00m cloud of terrer.
Bush Chnney are the WMD'S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 AM on 05/29/2009

And Obama is their Get-Out-Of­-Jail-Free card.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 05/29/2009
- DrDemon I'm a Fan of DrDemon 7 fans permalink
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****W****T****F****


HALT $HIT!!!


IT HAPPENED SO RELEASE THEM! COVERING UP THIS $HIT WOULD BE REALLY PHUKK'D UP!


I swear....this country is soooOOOOO HYPOCRITICAL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 05/29/2009
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That photo with the naked inmate being threatened by German Shepards is so sickening, it is right out of the Nazi Torture handbook. When did this country lose it's moral compass?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 05/29/2009
- Emerald1943 I'm a Fan of Emerald1943 286 fans permalink
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When Dick Cheney was crowned!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/29/2009
- Manx I'm a Fan of Manx 19 fans permalink

It's very sad to see Obama become a co-conspirator with Bush in the coverup of the torture scandal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 05/29/2009
- jrmarsh I'm a Fan of jrmarsh 52 fans permalink
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Cover up? EVERYBODY KNOWS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 05/29/2009

What we know now is just a drop in the bucket, I'm sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/29/2009
- CJWebber I'm a Fan of CJWebber 22 fans permalink

Every country in the world is aware of this. And have been for a long time. They are waiting to see if the U.S. will show some integrity or if they will try to sweep this under the rug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/29/2009
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How is it a coverup. Everyone knows the photos are there and most people now know what they show. What's the problem. Are you resentful that you won't be able to salivate over pictures of children being r a p e d? Do you really NEED to see those pictures. If so, why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 05/29/2009
- Acidic I'm a Fan of Acidic 6 fans permalink

Thank You missmolly, at least somebody understands. It is truly despicable but I'm not about to renounce my citizenship over the issue and move to Montana and start an anti-gov cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 05/31/2009
- CJWebber I'm a Fan of CJWebber 22 fans permalink

The fall of the American Empire is happening before our very eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 05/29/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 82 fans permalink


Of course, it would NOT make things worse if the perps were all facing prosecution at the time of release. That way we could rightfully say, "we make mistakes too, sometimes big ones, but we fix them."
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 05/29/2009
- JanSP1971 I'm a Fan of JanSP1971 43 fans permalink

Agreed 100%. This is the only way President Obama can allow the release of these photos if they are what many think they are. EVERYONE involved in this has to be charged and charged FIRST. The problem is the republicans will allow the president to charge the little guys the ones they have already pushed under the bus but they will never allow the REAL people in charge to be prosecuted. Right now we all know who is the one that said our country had to do ANYTHING to get the answers he needed, Cheney. President Obama and Vice President Biden are in a damned if you do damned if you don't spot. I do believe if pictures of American troops raping childen or men or women will cost our country many lives in the Middle East. What has Cheney and his boys done to our country? Why were they allowed to get away with this for so many years? I do believe President Obama can start to fix this mess but at what cost? Think about it people if he releases the pictures and all hell breaks over seas who will be blamed? I think we all know. If he doesn't release the pictures who is called a co-conspirator to torture? Again, we all know. I think Cheney HAS set our new President up, he knows damn good and well what is in those pictures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 05/29/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 82 fans permalink


Well, he has no choice, then; prosecute Cheney and Junior, et al.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 05/29/2009
- jrmarsh I'm a Fan of jrmarsh 52 fans permalink
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Now I know what Bush really meant by "No child left behind"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 05/29/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 104 fans permalink
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Ha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 05/29/2009
- conniedogs I'm a Fan of conniedogs 13 fans permalink

"Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character."

Margaret Chase Smith

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/29/2009

That's what happens when you let hillbillies run wild even if they are wearing uniforms. Guess it's one of the side effects of inbreeding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 05/29/2009
- HiGhBrowse I'm a Fan of HiGhBrowse 27 fans permalink
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This is tragic. oh look out for the woo woos...the woo woos are the only ones making a sound about this...and that is even more tragic. This should outrage conservati­ves...libe­rals...mid­dle of the roader's..­.unfortuna­tely everyone is in "cya" mode now...is there any one who wants justice? is there anyone who wants truth? Mr President I cast the first ballot I ever cast...for you...I believed you to want those things also. Plz dont let me down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 05/29/2009
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Hey now! I don't believe in reptilian aliens ... yet. Beware the chem trails!!!!!!!!

And ^%#&*^ torture ain't cool!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 05/29/2009
- HiGhBrowse I'm a Fan of HiGhBrowse 27 fans permalink
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It "ain't" legal either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 05/29/2009
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