Military Companies Vying For Billions Of Dollars In Cyberwarfare Defense Contracts

New York Times:

The government's urgent push into cyberwarfare has set off a rush among the biggest military companies for billions of dollars in new defense contracts.

Read the whole story: New York Times

Comments

[hotbytes]

02:21 AM on 05/31/2009

There's a difference between capitalizing on peanuts and capitalizing (and profiteering) from fears and war. Lockheed Martin and others in the military-industrial complex par.asites are nothing but a group of high-tech scammers. They justify for their existence and luxurious lifestyle by first instilling fear among us (scaring to submission), then coerce us (through lobbying the corrupt congress) into coughing out our hard-earn money so they could charge us a ten-thousand-dollar wrench.

The stench in the military-industrial complex is waking up even the de.ad.

[psnyder]

10:00 PM on 05/30/2009

We already live in a welfare state for engineers and military contractors. What's different here?

[Bitsko]

10:06 PM on 05/30/2009

Yep. Isn't this the kind of thing Bush shoulda been doing years ago? But that would have meant no bid cocntracts.

[DLBSR]

10:17 PM on 05/30/2009

Hello psnyder
Please........expound upon your welfare state for engineers comment. I am a professional engineer (mechanical) and have never heard this comment espoused by anyone until now. Honestly, I am not being confrontational, just curious.

[zepfan81]

09:55 PM on 05/30/2009

I don't see the problem here really. We live in a capitalist country and a lot of these companies stand to lose a lot of money since a number of old weapons programs are being canceled, so why wouldn't they want to act in their best interest? I'm sure in a few years once marijuana is legal the tobacco companies will make a quick switch.

[Christian]

09:32 PM on 05/30/2009

Ah, you watch, it will get outsourced to India.

[jillsond]

09:34 PM on 05/30/2009

LOL!!

[whatthel]

09:45 PM on 05/30/2009

It will be as American as Mumbai and apple pie.

[Bitsko]

09:30 PM on 05/30/2009

The cinematography in Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde is incredible! This scene in the park -- wow!

[jillsond]

09:40 PM on 05/30/2009

Which version??

[Bitsko]

10:05 PM on 05/30/2009

1941 Victor Fleming version, with Spencer Tracy, Ingrid Bergman and a very young Lana Turner. Cinematography by Joseph Ruttenberg. imdb.com is so handy!

[whatthel]

09:43 PM on 05/30/2009

They've got Spencer done up nice for 1941.

[jillsond]

09:15 PM on 05/30/2009

What's the prob here? More jobs for geeks. It's a good thing.

[brynnrose thorn]

09:18 PM on 05/30/2009

It seems that a LOT of people just love scaring themselves to de.ath. :)

[jillsond]

09:20 PM on 05/30/2009

Ha ha! Thank you.

[zius]

09:23 PM on 05/30/2009

well,maybe it's because some people just don't like geeks ..... lol

[jillsond]

09:26 PM on 05/30/2009

Ever been to a class reunion? The geeks always look better than the jo cks. LOL

[bubbuh]

09:08 PM on 05/30/2009

New main. That was quick.

[D-V-H]

09:10 PM on 05/30/2009

They saw we were having too much fun.

Kabbosh!!!

[Bitsko]

09:12 PM on 05/30/2009

Susan Boyle Kicks Rupurt Murdoch's Arse Up & Down Glasgow High Street?

[D-V-H]

09:15 PM on 05/30/2009

Soommmmmmewhere Ovvvvveeerrrrrrrr the Rainnnnnbowww.

[Bitsko]

09:07 PM on 05/30/2009

Jeebus gave us the internet so we could watch Snagglepuss cartoons at all times of the day or night.

[greatlardini]

09:12 PM on 05/30/2009

Heavens to Murgatroid! Exit, stage left! (nobody here wants to go right)

[whatthel]

09:22 PM on 05/30/2009

What a great phrase!

[Bitsko]

09:22 PM on 05/30/2009

LOL!

[HumeSkeptic]

08:55 PM on 05/30/2009

Make love, not war, in cyberspace.
.

[lornejl]

08:56 PM on 05/30/2009

War is ok in cyberspace,all wars should be fought here.

[D-V-H]

08:58 PM on 05/30/2009

Would.............you...............like..............to..............play...................a..............game?

[HumeSkeptic]

09:01 PM on 05/30/2009

You wish. Wait till it includes sh00ting down communication satellites, permanent weapon systems in space to protect our space "assets", armed with nukyular weapons, of course.

[Midnightrain]

08:58 PM on 05/30/2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6t-lXX-j5E&feature=related

[HumeSkeptic]

09:05 PM on 05/30/2009

You made me jump from Tschaikovsky to Chaka Khan.
You'll pay a heavy price for this.

Just kidding. I liked the song.

[HeIsTheOne]

09:09 PM on 05/30/2009

Did you read one of the comments listed below the youtube?

"Chaka is little chubby".

LOL, who isn't in their 50's?

One of the most amazing singers of the century.

[jillsond]

08:54 PM on 05/30/2009

Fun watching all the geeks here! Y'all are hot. I can barely check my email.

[Bitsko]

09:03 PM on 05/30/2009

Rightbackatcha!

[CAP6]

08:53 PM on 05/30/2009

After reading many of the posts on this thread I know most of you don't want to hear this but the cyber-warfare debate is old news, very old news. Concerns were raised about our infrastructure's vulnerability to cyber attack as early as 1995 and in 1998 it was President Clinton who issued a directive that set ambitious infrastructure-protection goals. “I intend that the United States will take all necessary measures to swiftly eliminate any significant vulnerability to both physical and cyber attacks on our critical infrastructures, including especially our cyber-systems,” Clinton wrote. Policy directives such as these over the last 10 years have not transformed into practical reality. The Bush administration largely ignored the potential vulnerabilities until 2007 when the Pentagon began a real effort to counter reportedly aggressive Chinese infiltration efforts. That effort has been expanded and continues as evidenced by this story.

[HeIsTheOne]

08:52 PM on 05/30/2009

I think I have a problem with this:

"Military experts said Northrop Grumman and General Dynamics, which have long been major players in the Pentagon’s security efforts, are leading the push into offensive cyberwarfare, along with the Raytheon unit. This involves finding vulnerabilities in other countries’ computer systems and developing software tools to exploit them, either to steal sensitive information or disable the networks. "

Now we are endeavoring to exploit other countries' computer systems? WTFis that?

[D-V-H]

08:54 PM on 05/30/2009

It's called the CIA, I'm sure you've heard of them. They do all sorts of ev.il things and we give em medals.

Or at least a star on a wall.

[adey]

08:57 PM on 05/30/2009

Dyslexia? Originally read it as "war on the stall." Still worked, somehow......

[HeIsTheOne]

09:00 PM on 05/30/2009

Crazzeee me. I thought we worked TOGETHER with other countries.

Maybe only the ones we like? (for the moment)

The others better watch out because we're aiming to turn their networks into sewage, after we download all their secrets.

Defense is one thing, but this seems offensive.

[bubbuh]

09:01 PM on 05/30/2009

Three letter agencies, CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA and a bunch of new ones I don't know are on our team. We have been nailed by Chinese (power grid), the Japenese (auto industry, why they bothered, I don't know), and DoD (North Korea and free lancers) so far this year. Of course, the "battles" are just the ones in the press.

Welcome to the new Cold War.

[lornejl]

08:52 PM on 05/30/2009

Lively thread..

[ladynaga]

08:54 PM on 05/30/2009

No tr0lls, so we're free to have conversation

[whatthel]

08:57 PM on 05/30/2009

They're still working on Thursday's threads.

[HeIsTheOne]

09:01 PM on 05/30/2009

Squidward.

You must have kids too.

[Midnightrain]

08:45 PM on 05/30/2009

Cyberwarfare? Isn't that what the MSM has been invested in for the past decade?

[whatthel]

08:48 PM on 05/30/2009

Trying to make you watch them instead of posting on HP.

[JustAHumanOnEarth]

08:42 PM on 05/30/2009

And now they are going to control the internet "for our own safety". How much freedom are we going to give away so that we "feel safe"?

[D-V-H]

08:44 PM on 05/30/2009

Better ask the pubs.
They are the ones that want da.ddy to keep em "safe".

As for me, openness is always the best option.

[Bitsko]

08:51 PM on 05/30/2009

What did Benjamin Franklin say? "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

[justsomeguywhocameby]

09:21 PM on 05/30/2009

I've repeated that so many times since nineelevan I thought I wore it out.