Mousavi Vows To Back Women's Rights If Elected In Iran

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First Posted: 05-31-09 11:44 AM   |   Updated: 07- 1-09 05:12 AM

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Presidential candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi has vowed to review laws that discriminate against women in Iran if he wins an upcoming election.

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Presidential candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi has vowed to review laws that discriminate against women in Iran if he wins an upcoming election.
Presidential candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi has vowed to review laws that discriminate against women in Iran if he wins an upcoming election.
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Pardon me if slightly off topic but this a lot to do with democracy movement in IRI, or more precisely, how to utterly sabotage it. Here's Jane Harmon on youtube saber rattling for 6 minutes: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x314450

Rep. Jane Harman calls ethnic separation of Iran “a good strategy”

"The Persian population in Iran is not a majority, it is a plurality. There are many different, diverse, and disagreeing populations inside Iran and an obvious strategy, which I believe is a good strategy, is to separate those population­s."
- Rep. Jane Harman

[me again] The last thing we need is for some American official to call, openly no less, for the Balkanization of Iran. We need to get our war mongers on a leash and to let the Iranians work this out themselves. Not to benefit the rulers of IRI, but for the people who are struggling to change it. The good news is that Harmon was forced to retract her statement:
"I was not and am not calling for the creation of ethnic tensions or separation in Iran - nothing would be less productive," said Harman in a statement to NIAC. "Although my comments on Iran were taken out of context, I regret any concern they might have caused."

[me again] Listen to the 6 minute clip and see what you think of the context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 06/01/2009
- jeburr24 I'm a Fan of jeburr24 8 fans permalink

He sounds like a big improvement over Ahmadinejad. So I suspect he could be arrested and/or his candidacy invalidated sometime before the election. If by some miracle he does win, I think his influence will be seriously limited by the Powers That Be. I just don't see the mullahs ceding any of their power without a fight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 05/31/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 290 fans permalink
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Politics are complicated there. It often has to do with your cred and who you know. I suspect the latter. His revolutionary bona fides are beyond reproach. I would suspect he'd face the same challenges Khatami did with such reforms. However; at this point, I'm worrying that Ahmedinejad will win reelection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 05/31/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Sorry, this won't ever happen, sadly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 06/01/2009
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Finally. Lets hope for a good election result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 05/31/2009
- escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat 329 fans permalink
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I hope this guy wins. What a concept -- get rid of the "morality police." Gotta wonder who came up with that idea in the first place. Gee, I bet it was a man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 05/31/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 290 fans permalink
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Yup, I agree, and to add insult to injury they enlist the help of a lot of women: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1842911,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/31/2009
- popart I'm a Fan of popart 13 fans permalink
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only women can make this happen...o­nly the women of the world have the power to change the world for the better....­left to us ( men ) it will always be the same...or worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 05/31/2009

Congrats for your honesty. Really, men in general are such aggressive creatures. Always ready to tread on the weak. Women, in contrast, tend to protect the weak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 05/31/2009
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 206 fans permalink
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Believe it when I see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/31/2009

god love her, but I hope she has plenty of TRUSTWORTHY strong male bodyguards­-----prime candidate for assasination----to be ordered, of course, by Armenijad the dirt farmer or the ayatollehs, etc.------­this is why so many Iranian woman, if they can pull it off, come to or stay in U.S>------­-we get mad at the U.S. ------but.­..........­re: women it's head over heels better than so many countries-------

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 05/31/2009
- sysmgr1345 I'm a Fan of sysmgr1345 15 fans permalink
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Good luck with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 05/31/2009

If Mousavi somehow manages to get elected, he will be constrained much like Khatami was during his presidency. The Guardian Council will deem any progressive legislation as unconstitutional and in contradictory to the tenets of Islam.

Interestingly, Mousavi is playing it safe by "vowing" to fight for women's rights. He isn't promising any particular results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/31/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 290 fans permalink
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Precisely what I would have said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/31/2009
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It just seems the rigidity built in to the IRI form of governance works all to well to squash any real reform. Not that Khatami or Mousavi aren't sincere, but that they have no real power to create change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 06/01/2009
- futate01 I'm a Fan of futate01 38 fans permalink
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...but there is a third player in this game, US... Iran is itching to enter the world stage economically. It sees what's happening in China, and India, and Iran is being left out. I'm sure there is tremendous internal strife (soul searching) amongst the mullahs. With a progressive thinking President with Obama on his side, and Europe, even without political power he would have an energetic power to push the country into a new direction.­.. kinda what happened here with Marin Luther King. They need someone like MLK and things will change.

Remember the Iranians are not Arabs. Their history is far more similar to that of Europe than to anything Arabic. They are itching to join us their brothers on the world stage the way they always had in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 06/01/2009
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Anyone professing to change the laws to help women in Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan and for that matter anywhere else that is primarily Muslim, has a very good chance of getting killed before the election.

I wish them well, but I don't see such change being possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 05/31/2009

Just as anyone professing to create a more just and racially equal society in the Sixties was killed: John F. Kennedy, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert F. Kennedy...­.all "random acts" of "lone gunmen". And most Americans are still in denial about it; little wonder that, despite the election of Obama, many still don't believe real change is possible. The point, as always, is who are we to judge others?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 05/31/2009
- JerryLevy I'm a Fan of JerryLevy 54 fans permalink
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I know you are kidding, you cant be serious

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 05/31/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 114 fans permalink
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No need to bomb and "liberate" (occupy) them. They'll have their reforms on their own..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/31/2009
- NourCA I'm a Fan of NourCA 4 fans permalink

Bravo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/31/2009
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No need for US govt. to interfere at all really. But the Iranian people can only get to liberation by overthrowing the mullah-ocracy. They got rid of the Shah on their own, now they're in need of a second revolution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 05/31/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 114 fans permalink
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I think gradual change might be preferable. In any case, the current system will not stand forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 05/31/2009
- Mollabaji I'm a Fan of Mollabaji 17 fans permalink

Karroubi's wife also partricipating in her husband's campaign? Has anyone seen a report and photos of that? where are news reporters?

My question to Mr. Mousavi is: You were Prime Minister for 8 years. What legislation did you initiate and what laws did your government change about women's rights that you are promising now?

Apparently, the Western media reporters are in love with Mousavi and refer to him as a "reformist" whatever that is supposed to mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/31/2009
- Wozzeck I'm a Fan of Wozzeck 23 fans permalink
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"Karroubi's wife also partricipating in her husband's campaign? Has anyone seen a report and photos of that? where are news reporters?"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jDD9Q1xNs5VIqwgzYINkyU2y5Upg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 05/31/2009
- Wozzeck I'm a Fan of Wozzeck 23 fans permalink
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She's on this campaign video:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Karroubi+wife+campaign&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#q=Karroubi+&hl=en&emb=0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 05/31/2009
- Doomestic I'm a Fan of Doomestic 9 fans permalink

He was a primeminister during the Iraq-Iran war that killed hundreds of thousands on both sides, only days after the Iranian revolution. I doubt they managed to think much about social issues at the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 05/31/2009
- NourCA I'm a Fan of NourCA 4 fans permalink

Don't be so negative Mollabaji! Look at the positives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/31/2009
- sfirx I'm a Fan of sfirx 5 fans permalink

The entire world seems to be waking up. I just hope that women around the world don't think that like most women in the Western world, that liberation and freedom is judge by how sexually active you are and how skimpy you dress. One can be liberated and free and still be modestly dressed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/31/2009
- Mollabaji I'm a Fan of Mollabaji 17 fans permalink

sfirx, So true. "Liberation in the Ameican mind is in fact being a sex object. Just look at all the sickening and degrading advertising from cars to beer to groceries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 05/31/2009
- Doomestic I'm a Fan of Doomestic 9 fans permalink

Liberation is the freedom of the woman to do what she chooses to do. I doubt anyone held a gun to the women's head to put posters of them in skimpy or no clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 05/31/2009
- escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat 329 fans permalink
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At least we American women have the freedom to liberate ourselves from that program. We don't have to buy into it. We can live our lives the way we choose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 05/31/2009
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The key word is choice. A woman should be able to choose to wear whatever she wants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/31/2009

Absolutely! I live in Dubai, and on the one hand you see the women in their black abayas, hair covered, some even covering their faces. Living here, you are supposed to cover at least your shoulders, and your legs down to the knees. Most people do, but then you sometimes see the other extreme of people (mostly, but not only, women) dressing so skimpily that you cringe on their behalf. And the comment I often hear from locals about it? Seldom condemnation, but often a perplexed "Don't they respect themselves?" Or recently "She's so pretty, why does she feel she has to walk around naked for people to notice her?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 06/01/2009
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