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INAM UR-REHMAN | May 31, 2009 01:23 PM EST | AP

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A Pakistani walks past the destruction caused by fighting between Pakistani security forces and Taliban militants in Mingora, the main town of Pakistan's troubled Swat Valley, Sunday, May 31, 2009. Pakistan says it is close to beating the Taliban in the Swat Valley, but battlefield success alone does not equal victory, with militant commanders still on the run, local governments and police forces have been decimated and some millions of residents are displaced from their homes. (AP Photo)

MINGORA, Pakistan — People trapped at home for weeks emerged in search of food at barren shops while corpses lay exposed in the Swat Valley's main city Sunday, as a Pakistani official suggested the army offensive against the Taliban in the region could end in days.

Elsewhere along the Afghan border area, dozens of militants died in clashes with soldiers in a tribal region, fighting that could nudge the military to expand its offensive beyond Swat.

An Associated Press reporter who visited Mingora a day after the army declared it was secured saw many damaged buildings. Two decomposing bodies, apparently those of insurgents, lay unburied in a cemetery; a third, charred corpse lay near a shopping mall.

The smell of explosives hung in the air.

"We have been starving for many days. We have been cooking tree leaves to keep ourselves alive. Thank God it is over," said Afzal Khan. "We need food. We need help. We want peace."

Pakistan launched an offensive against militants in Swat and surrounding districts last month after they violated the terms of a cease-fire and advanced into a region close to the capital, Islamabad.

Speaking in Singapore, Pakistan's defense secretary predicted the army would clear remaining militant strongholds in the valley in "two to three days." Pakistan's military spokesman said that assessment was overly optimistic.

The Swat offensive has earned U.S. praise as troops have regained large swaths of the region from an estimated 4,000 militants. The fighting has forced up to 3 million people to evacuate.

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In South Waziristan tribal region, meanwhile, insurgent attacks on an army convoy and checkpoint Saturday night sparked clashes that left scores scores dead. About 50 militants and two soldiers were killed, according to two intelligence officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to media.

A military statement Sunday said at least 25 militants and seven soldiers died in South Waziristan, the main stronghold of Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud. Qari Husain Ahmed, a Taliban commander in South Waziristan, disputed both accounts, telling AP via phone that only two militants died.

The differences could not immediately be reconciled.

Most of Mingora's at least 375,000 residents fled before or during the offensive. The military briefly lifted a curfew Sunday, allowing some of the 20,000 or so who remained to buy provisions in the few shops that were open.

Ali Rehman said he had not left his house for 25 days.

"I never knew who was fighting and who was being killed," he said, clutching two bags of flour. "I need help to keep my family alive because I do not have any source of income anymore."

Officials from the International Committee of the Red Cross visiting other parts of the valley Saturday were "alarmed."

"People have been blocked for weeks," team leader Daniel O'Malley said in a statement released Sunday.

"There is no running water, no electricity, and food is scarce. There is no fuel left for generators and most medical facilities in the district are no longer functioning. Phone lines are down, so people have been cut off from the outside world and are anxious for contact with relatives who fled the area."

The military said relief work was proceeding in Mingora but it will be at least two weeks before power is restored there, so refugees are not being encouraged to return home yet.

More than 1,200 militants have been killed in the Swat offensive, according to the military _ a figure that cannot be independently verified. The military has not released civilian casualty numbers and it is unclear how it distinguishes militants from noncombatants.

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Associated Press writers Ishtiaq Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan and Vijay Joshi contributed to this report from Singapore.

MINGORA, Pakistan — People trapped at home for weeks emerged in search of food at barren shops while corpses lay exposed in the Swat Valley's main city Sunday, as a Pakistani official suggested ...
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- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 549 fans permalink
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GW Bush would have benefitted greatly, and saved the world a great deal of misery, if when he was young could have heard the words of Ali Rehman, the man who "said he had not left his house for 25 days."

"I never knew who was fighting and who was being killed," he said, clutching two bags of flour. "I need help to keep my family alive because I do not have any source of income anymore."had listened

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 06/01/2009
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You are right-this is all GW's fault.

At what point will you start placing blame on those who deserve it? When will you come to realize that the US is not the bad guy in the world. That we have saved millions of people and the only piece of ground we have asked for is enough to bury our dead.

Islamic militants want to kill you-not because of GW, not because you are an American, not because you are black, white, or Hispanic. They want to kill you because you are an infidel. You have two choices-convert to Islam or be killed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 06/01/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 304 fans permalink
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That was awfully Manichaean. Well, in the case of Islamists, ain't no good there. But hate to break it to you, we aren't the immaculate white knight you think we are. We don't always live up to our ideals or implement policies in our long-term best interests. And yes, it's been this way since before GW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 06/02/2009
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 23 fans permalink

"War on Terror" = War on People of the World

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 05/31/2009
- messy I'm a Fan of messy 38 fans permalink
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So you must agree with the Taliban on the rights of women as you support them against Pakistani democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 06/01/2009
- messy I'm a Fan of messy 38 fans permalink
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You don't get it, aboutttime, Pakistan GAVE peace a chance and the Talibam stomped it flat!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 06/01/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

Give peace a chance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 05/31/2009
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I suggest you deliver this message to Taliban. Personally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 06/01/2009
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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The Taliban are living in the past, they need to get their heads out where the sun shines and discover that doing what was done eight hundred years ago has no place in civilized society.

This war has to be fought, their fanatical and tailored interpretation of the Koran cannot be permitted to rule the lives of native people, or they will remain the slaves they have always been.

What if these mad dogs got their hands on nuclear weapons, would not the loss of life on all sides be unimaginable. This war is the lesser of two evils!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 05/31/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

Give me break!
Fear, fear, fear is NOT reasonable when it causes paranoia.
Get a grip on history and present US Imperial goals.
People die bcause of greed and power gome mad. The US Military "War Incorporated" is making the big busks at others tragic loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 05/31/2009
- StephBr I'm a Fan of StephBr 4 fans permalink
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The Empire did a lot of wrong, the US war machine is greedy and evil but nothing can defend the views and the actions of the Taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 06/01/2009
- Deli I'm a Fan of Deli 32 fans permalink
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And we've wasted all of our attention in Iraq to the betterment of Iran and destablization of what was a thriving entire region, while we should have been supporting Pakistan and Afghanistan all these years.

Or at least been paying attention to our own southern border and the civil war and approaching collapse of Mexico. All for Dick Cheney's personal vendettas brewing since the first gulf war and prior. Put the man in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/31/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

What a nightmare!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/31/2009
- fodel I'm a Fan of fodel 12 fans permalink
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So much suffering in the world. You can't make deals with the Taliban -- i'm happy to see them wiped out, and, hopefully erased altogether. But you can't just leave the people in those areas on their own.. we must provide aid, and help them build a life with hope and opportunity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/31/2009
- edsel I'm a Fan of edsel 4 fans permalink

I don't know if they'll everer be able to wipe them out. There's just too many with extremely radical views there. I hear they just blend in with the rest of the population and then reorganize at a later time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 05/31/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

That "you can't make deals with the Taliban" is inaccurate.
The US gave the Taliban in Afghanistan $4o million for its efforts to stem the cultivation of poppies, which it did in 2001. The US was seeking a deal for an oil pipeline, which the Taliban Government did not want.
After 911 it is reported and confirmed that the Taliban had bin Laden in custody waiting for the US to extradite him, however Bush, Chenney refused, preferring War instead.
Don't kid yourself that evil does not reek in our own government as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 05/31/2009
- essbird I'm a Fan of essbird 23 fans permalink
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Please cite source of the bin Laden story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/31/2009
- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 139 fans permalink
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The Taliban are not all militants--these are the ones that get reported on. I don't support Taliban views, but the origins of the movement was simply a conservative interpretation of Islam but they did not advocate terrorism, torture for women, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/31/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 304 fans permalink
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I hear you. But being a woman under such a strict interpretation Islam under Salafi religious and reactionary Pashto culture would, in a sense, be torture enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 06/02/2009
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There are quite a few gems posted in this thread. It is indeed exhilarating to witness a renaissance of the thirst for knowledge and for understanding the political processes that help to shape our society. Perhaps a year or so ago, the public may have had far too little interest in how our nation was governed, as well as an acceptance of mediocrity and anti-intellectualism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/31/2009
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Only the Pakistnis can save themselves. They need no intervention since they have begun to f.ig.h.t back. Each nation state achieves independence in its own way. Our nation has had to endure much blooodshed to achieve our democracy and this is why our freedoms mean so much. The people have to want it so badly they are prepared to d.i.e for it. This is why in the end the Ir-aqis will have to secure their own independence. We can fool ourselves into thinking they have democracy, but as soon as our backs are turned they'll be back at each other's throats. And we'd have to be there permanently to police them. Artificial peace is too fragile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 05/31/2009
- Ohioan730 I'm a Fan of Ohioan730 134 fans permalink
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I feel really bad for the Pakistani people over there. I imagine its a lot like living in gang infested urban American cities but 100 times worse. The gang members are sometimes members of your own family or friends who were misguided so you're between a rock and a hard place. And then there's the police presence (or in Pakistan's case, America) and you cant really trust them because they haven't exactly been angels, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/31/2009
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For what it's worth the Pakistanis are starting to get it right. IF they follow some basic principles of COIN doctrine that goes back hundreds of years they will understand they have not beaten the Talib ideals they have simply sent them packing like rats for the time being. Now is the time they take the next step and secure the locals.

I know this all sounds simple, I have been in SOF a for long time and deployed numerous times and have seen what can be done when you take out political BS and let a small amount of experts do their thing.

Pappy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/31/2009
- aramos I'm a Fan of aramos 9 fans permalink

Pakistan either confronts the threat now, or is enslaved by the Taliban later!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/31/2009

There is almost no compassion expressed for the people of the Swat valley in these comments; plenty of howls for the blood of foreigners, nothing new there; plenty of comments about which American administrations are more responsible, nothing new there either; even a few recipes. Imagine that the local right wing militia tries to take over your little neck of the woods, then the U.S. government, with the full force of its military power, moves in to take back your little neck of the woods, as they must, to show the militia who is really in charge of your little neck of the woods. Your house is destroyed, your crops are destroyed, your peaceful neck of the woods is torn asunder and, to the extent that anyone cares at all, they merely decry one side or the other, then move on to other concerns, like golf or outdoor barbeques. I guess the supposition is, though unstated for obvious reasons, that you and your little neck of the woods were just asking for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 05/31/2009
- Cherubim I'm a Fan of Cherubim 27 fans permalink

"America needs to be seen as a force for good."
Some of us actually do understand this.
Watch the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrT_Q6lHFjU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 05/31/2009

Interesting. If tiny Cuba, with America doing all it can to harm it, can still educate thousands of doctors and send them around the world to help those in need, winning Cuba a reputation for humanitarianism, just think what a nation with the resources we possess could do to alleviate hunger, poverty, disease, and ignorance, the root causes of hopelessness and, therefore terrorism. If our policy was driven by compassion, the cultivated ability to see the world through the eyes and from the perspective of another, instead of rationalized hatred and Machiavellian politics, we would find little cause for anti-Americanism or terrorism. The logic of terrorism feeds on despair; without it, those who seek to draw others toward terrorism will have little success. If we want to end terrorism we need to lead the world toward compassion, not just police it militarily to protect our access to the world's resources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 05/31/2009
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Logic, compassion, equality, tolerence and reason, can they ever really co-exist with any man made religion?
If one religion is right than the others must be wrong by diffinition.
But what if all the religions are wrong?
If they are all wrong then what a complete human failure, we, as a "enlightened/ evolved species have amounted too!
Most of the human species still want to believe that the Earth is flat, because it takes no effort to do so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 05/31/2009
- D-V-H I'm a Fan of D-V-H 428 fans permalink
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That is why I reject religion. That doesn't mean there is no God, but one needs to realize that religion is a construct of Man and as such can never be 100% right. It should also be obvious that religion was created in order to exercise another form of control over the population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/31/2009
- Lilith33 I'm a Fan of Lilith33 163 fans permalink

How did bush make us safer again? Im blanking.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/31/2009
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He protected American children from education.

He protected American science from discovery.

He protected Congress from reality too.

He protected the Vice Presidency from the constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 05/31/2009

Well Said - so he did protect some of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 05/31/2009
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protected?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/31/2009
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