Baucus Battered By Voters For Health Care Stand

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Posted: 06- 1-09 02:36 PM

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Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong.

Baucus, the chair of the Finance Committee and the leader of reform efforts in the Senate, scheduled 20 town hall meetings with constituents across the state to talk about the future of health care. The Senate was out of session, but Baucus, a Democrat, didn't personally attend. Instead, he sent staff and a video-recorded message.

"I really want to hear from all of you," Baucus said on the video, according to local media. "You're my employers. You're my bosses. You're the people I work for. I'm just the hired hand. I want to hear what you want to see in any legislation we pass in Washington, D.C."

He got what he asked for.

Five separate accounts of the meetings, published in four different local papers, show Montana voters were downright hostile to Baucus' reform proposal. Baucus has been a staunch opponent of single-payer health care, a system in which the government would provide universal coverage.

Baucus has kept single-payer advocates out of negotiations and has yet to endorse a compromise proposal by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) that would give Americans the option of buying into a publicly run plan that would compete with private insurers.

That stance put his staffers up against a wall, facing angry constituents fed up by what they viewed as a lack of courage in Washington.

"Majority wants single-payer health care," headlined an account in the Helena Independent Record.

At several of the events, Montanans' ire was directed at Baucus chief of staff Jon Selib, who defended the employer-based coverage system that he estimated covers 150 million Americans.
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"A lot of people like that," Selib said.

When the time came for questions, [self-employed consultant Steve] McArthur stood up and asked a simple question. Looking across a standing-room-only crowd of about 275, he asked how many were happy with their employer-based health insurance.

Fewer than 10 people raised their hands.

"The [argument] is bogus," McArthur said. "It's not working for 95 percent of us."

In fact, any mention of single-payer health care insurance brought raucous cheers and clapping. Any other solution to health care reform - including Baucus' "balanced" plan that would create a mix of public and private plans - was received more coolly.


The bitter questioning led Selib to break some news at the meeting.

"If you think your insurance company is screwing you ... then you'd have the option of going to the public plan," Selib said. "Senator Baucus is fighting tooth and nail to include that in any final deal."

Then he asked the standing-room-only audiences for comments -- and got an earful, mostly on the whys, hows and whats of national health insurance as the preferred option.



Baucus' staff repeatedly argued that 60 votes are needed to move a bill through the Senate and that single-payer, or an otherwise bold reform, simply wouldn't pass. That wasn't what they wanted to hear, said a story in the Missoulian, "Single-payer health care: Baucus keeps getting an earful."

PABLO - Sen. Max Baucus' insistence that consideration of a national single-payer health plan at this point will squander a golden opportunity for health care reform in the United States continues to be met with stiff resistance from many of his constituents.

"The word 'insurance' does not equal health care," Janelle Kuechle of Polson said at a meeting here Thursday. "If I have to pay a $900 premium to have health insurance with a $10,000 deductible, that is not health care."

"Congress ought to be representing us instead of the insurance lobby," said retired school teacher John Oberlitner of Polson. "Max Baucus has stated it's not feasible to pass a single-payer health plan, but one year ago people were saying it was not feasible that Obama could be elected our president."

Voters in Livingston weren't much warmer, recorded the Bozeman Daily Chronicle.

But many in the audience grilled a Baucus staffer on why they wouldn't allow single-payer advocates to participate in roundtables held to form his plan. Several doctors were arrested for protesting that point in Washington two weeks ago during a Baucus-led discussion.

Judy Moor of Bozeman asked whether the big campaign dollars Baucus has received from the insurance industry was reason for suspicion.

"Single-payer advocates not giving up the fight," observed the Great Falls Tribune.

Proponents of single-payer showed up en masse at the most well-attended meetings in Missoula, Hamilton, Anaconda, Dillon and Livingston to urge Baucus -- the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee -- to consider single-payer universal health care. Single payer -- a system in which the government provides health insurance to all Americans -- has been declared "off the table" by Baucus, Congress' leading man on heath care reform.

Baucus isn't pushing hard enough, said a Helena business owner, summing up the statewide wisdom. "Max is really making me mad now because he's not really trying to change the system, he's just trying to tweak it."

Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong. Baucus, the chair of the Finance Commi...
Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong. Baucus, the chair of the Finance Commi...
 
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The Senator from Pharma-Ins­urance-Hea­lth Care (Baucus, D-MT) received $1,826,652 from pharma-health care-insurance for his 2008 campaign (http://www.sodahead.com/blog/94457/senator-baucus-using-blackmail-on-healthcare/).

Montana had 519,000 registered voters (http://www.statemaster.com/graph/gov_200_tot_reg_vot-2004-election-total-registered-voters; 43rd in nation).

Baucus received 345,937 votes (http://news.aol.com/elections/2008/state/mt#MT-S0).

Not bad...It only cost the H/C industry $5.28 per vote...A bargain at twice the price...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 06/24/2009
- robbep I'm a Fan of robbep 22 fans permalink

I thought the residents of Montana were scared of socialized medicine, guess not. It seems that the only people who are still for our current health system are the people who make money from it, take money from it, and then you have the lackeys who are so conditioned to work against their own self interests they just cant help it. We are going to win this one eventually bcz it is the right and smart thing to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 06/09/2009
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Here's what John Conyers had to say about Single Payer and Barack Obama:
May 30, 2008 Indiana University Southeast
"Well, listen to Amy Goodman." She's got the tapes of him making some of the most brilliant remarks in Support of HR 676 that anybody has ever made, but he ain't making them now."
The 45 second video clip is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XcOvkRXvE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 06/04/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 67 fans permalink

Americans are coming to HATE their Neo-Con overlords - whether the Heatlh Insurance masters of the universe, or the Wall Street masters of rigging the Fed Reserve (and/or EXTORTING _DIRECT_ bailout TRILLIONS from taxpayers via the Pelosi congress & obama White House), or the engineers of ECONOMIC DOOM, (OUTSOURCING US jobs, MAKING US ENERGY DEPENDENT on FOREIGN oil by SABOTAGING electric cars; slashing wages, benefits, & education opportunities which reduce the ability of American workers to CONSUME the goods which stimulate a good domestic, production economy)

Make no mistake: George W Bush & Dick Cheney would NEVER have gotten their PRECIOUS IRAQ WARS without the FERVERENT SUPPORT of the Neo-Cons - both the FORMER "liberal Democrats" like COLEMAN, SPECTER, and LIEBERMAN, and the CURRENT "Democrats" like Baucus, Feinstein, Harman, etc. who PRETEND to be Democrats, BUT TAKE THEIR ORDERS from the SAME corporate & war-party lobbyists who fund the Republican Party.

(The only reason it got this bad, is because bush, cheney, and the GOP election-stealing crew came on the scene at the precise time that #1. 9-11 spooked America's latent "WMD fears, #2. the PC/compute­r/internet revolution granted huge new powers of SURVEILLANCE to government and coporations; and #3. because MEDIA CONSOLIDATION under MEGA-CORPORATIONS crushed a truly free press/media, for example, when Ted Turner sold CNN to AOL/Time-Warner, it became just another right-wing media organization RUN by BEAN-COUNTERS and PROFIT-LOOTING execs.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 06/03/2009

You're not out of the high costs of INSURANCE, even when you reach 65!! My company paid insurance deductible for me just went up a lot, so I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to get on Medicare.....the plans are confusing even for a college grad, and if you don't do it right, you get PENALIZED!!!! And the cost goes up as you get older!! Let's stop torturing our elders and do this for them, too!!!

REST ASSURED......if we don't get single-payer through THIS Congress, the Republicans will kill Social Security too by increasing the monthly fees for Medicare!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 06/03/2009

Most senators and congressmen are being paid off by insurance companies in the form of "campaign contributions". We will never have single payer while special interests run DC.

WE WON'T GET SINGLE PAYER BECAUSE THEY'RE ACCEPTING BRIBES FROM SPECIAL INTERESTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 06/03/2009
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Go to these 2 petition web sites and demand that single payer health care get enacted into law

http://bit.ly/single_payer

http://bit.ly/single_payer_baucus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 06/03/2009
- dcrinaz I'm a Fan of dcrinaz 67 fans permalink
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If Montanans understand that a single-payer, universal health care system is what this country needs, why is it so difficult for Congress and President Obama to hear this? Make an efficient, universal system. Keep insurance companies out of it; we don't owe them anything, they have made enough money for doing nothing but exploiting us in an unnecessary middle-man role.

Go for it, Montanans! And the rest of us should get off our duffs and demand that our senators stop selling out to big monied interests and do what is right for our nation!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 06/02/2009
- barkingcat I'm a Fan of barkingcat 7 fans permalink
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Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/03/2009
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Oust him now! Someone post the list of his contributors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/02/2009

I already have written the DNC that if they help any of these blue dogs run, I will not give them a penny. I think if this is what a Democrat is pushing for then we need a new party. I'm sick of all this crap they are doing to us and their rhetoric; they know what the public wants so give us Single-payer health care and if you think the money isn't there take it out of the Military budget we don't need to be in Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan just so the oil companies, Haliburton (by any name), the MIC and all the war profiteering corporation can make a fortune.
Stop the wars, close the 200+ bases all over the world and bring our troops home, stop the no taxes for corporations, stop the war on drugs, stop the prisons for profit, stop the tax cuts for the rich, take back our monetary system and close the Federal Reserves, forget about the IMF, stop the pension plan for Congress and their health care plan, see the money is there and plenty of it, it is called priorities and the number one priority is Single-payer health care right now.
I'm am sick of these bought and paid for Congress people, as he said they work for us, it is just to bad we can't give them 2 weeks notice and fire them things would change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 06/02/2009

Here here. Well said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/02/2009
- Kristen777 I'm a Fan of Kristen777 41 fans permalink
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It's too late for me - I fired them long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 06/03/2009

I am from Montana and I hate to say it but Baucus was just re-elected in 2008, which means he knows he's good for 6 more years and as long as he's been in office, he's probably retiring after that, which means he probably could care less what any of US think. I'm just hoping that if we create a big enough stink that he'll cave just because he wants to preserve his "legacy". It's not much, but it's the only hope I think we've got at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 06/02/2009
- Samalabear I'm a Fan of Samalabear 63 fans permalink
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In any case, keep his fire to the feet, Montana. It looks like you guys gave him a bit of humiliation.
The legacy point is a good one. These guys have giant egos. Look at Bush and his legacy tour -- didn't work out so well. Videos speak a thousand words. Play the video of Baucus cracking jokes about calling the police and having the single-payer advocates arrested -- and then having them arrested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 06/03/2009

Baucus is obviously bought & paid for, which means he's broken the law in some of the $$ he's taken......he needs to be INVESTIGATED, and the TRUTH shown to voters....­..everyone of these scumbags who have sold out have skeletons in their closets!!!!

The Montana voters deserve better than this lowlife!! Obviously they are waking up!!! Way to go!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 06/03/2009
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 38 fans permalink

Whoa....even Montana is becoming progressive?


Conservatives, whether DINO or rethug, watch out, 2010 is but six months away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 06/02/2009
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So Max, can you hear us now? All Senators, can you hear us now? If you don't hear us now, you will hear us in 2010 and 2012. Insurance companies don't vote, but we do. Come on people - let them hear us!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 06/02/2009
- on2them I'm a Fan of on2them 22 fans permalink
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co-sign

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 06/02/2009
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WARREN Buffett=INSURANCE = BIGGEST DONOR TO BAUCUS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 06/02/2009
- CarolW2 I'm a Fan of CarolW2 3 fans permalink

Do you suppose Baucus finally listened? And let's hope that every other Senator and Representative against universal health care for all is getting the same earful in their States and Districts. My husband's monthly premium is over $800! Just for one person! And then, doctors appointments, prescriptions, medical care is all predicated on what the insurance companies will and won't pay for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 06/02/2009
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In most states Baucus would be politically dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 06/02/2009

Not true. If voters outside of his perfectly Gerrymandered district were able to vote, then i'd agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 06/02/2009

Although, the voters of Montana that spoke out here are getting somewhere. My above comment is really directed towards every other district out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/02/2009

If by "gerrymandered district" you mean the entire state of Montana, then no, people outside the state can not vote for him. He is a SENATOR you know........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 06/02/2009
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