Bizarre Alliance: House GOP And Liberal Dems Could Kill War Funding

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First Posted: 06- 3-09 04:46 PM   |   Updated: 06- 3-09 05:36 PM

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House Republicans, allied with anti-war Democrats, may be the best hope to save the Freedom of Information Act from the White House or to oppose troop escalation in Afghanistan. But it's not by choice.

Here's how the bizarre alliance took shape: The supplemental spending bill President Barack Obama needs to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is proving to be a tempting vehicle on which to slap unrelated measures, because it has the support of Republicans and "centrist" Democrats looking to support the troops.

Because of these measures, the supplemental might not pass.

The Senate, with President Obama's support, stuck in a measure that would prevent the release of photographs of U.S. personnel torturing or otherwise abusing detainees. On top of that, Senate Democrats attached $108 billion for the International Monetary Fund, money the House didn't appropriate and that liberal members don't want allocated.

House support for the IMF funding was already uncertain, given the conditions some Democrats want attached.

Now House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) claims he won't vote for a bill with any side projects included.

"Let's be clear: a troop funding bill should fund our troops, period," Boehner said Tuesday afternoon at a press conference. "I will oppose this legislation if it is loaded up with billions in spending that is unrelated to our military's core mission of protecting our nation and our interests. Additional funding for the IMF should be judged on its own merits and in its own legislation."

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) echoed Boehner's criticism on Wednesday, though Media Matters noted that he had no such qualms about voting for a 2007 war funding bill that included $17 billion for a wide variety of domestic programs.

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Anti-war Democrats in the House are already reluctant to vote for more funding for escalation in Afghanistan. Throw in money for the IMF and a gutting of FOIA, and it's even less attractive, regardless of how popular the president may be.

Some, like California Rep. Maxine Waters, are worried the IMF would use the money to force budget cuts in developing nations and further damage the ailing global economy.

"In conference, we urge inclusion of language to ensure that the funds allocated by Congress for global stimulus are used for stimulatory, and not contractionary, purposes," Waters wrote in a letter to House colleagues.

The Detainee Photographic Records Protection Act, introduced by Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was attached unanimously into the Senate version just before the Memorial Day recess. The amendment permits the defense secretary to supersede FOIA and suppress any photographs taken of detainees between 9/11 and Obama's inauguration. All Defense Secretary Robert Gates has to do is claim that the photographs would "endanger" U.S. troops or any other citizens, and the photos sit for at least another three years on the shelf.

"[T]he language in the bill is clear that it would apply to the current ACLU lawsuit" seeking photos, read a statement from Graham's office.

Lieberman told Glenn Thrush of Politico Tuesday that his and Graham's amendment has the support of the White House. At a press conference regarding her recent trip to China, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also tentatively supported Lieberman-Graham as a piece of the troop supplemental, though she seemed unfamiliar with the nature of the amendment.

"If that's what the president supports, then that's what we support," Pelosi said. "I will support the supplemental. Let's see what's in the supplemental."

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House Republicans, allied with anti-war Democrats, may be the best hope to save the Freedom of Information Act from the White House or to oppose troop escalation in Afghanistan. But it's not by choice...
House Republicans, allied with anti-war Democrats, may be the best hope to save the Freedom of Information Act from the White House or to oppose troop escalation in Afghanistan. But it's not by choice...
 
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- Harrier I'm a Fan of Harrier 10 fans permalink

Just a thought, I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 06/04/2009
- Peabodies I'm a Fan of Peabodies 19 fans permalink

This is a call to action! Call your Member of the House of Representatives TODAY.

202-225-3121 if you don't have their number.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 06/04/2009
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This bill has been poisoned by a measure overthrowing the Freedom of Information Act for detainees post 9/11.

Kill it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 06/04/2009
- JDM73 I'm a Fan of JDM73 40 fans permalink
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"...'centr­ist' Democrats looking to support the troops." Why does "supporting the troops" always mean leaving them in some godawful place indefinitely?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 06/04/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 93 fans permalink
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Good. Firing a few shots across the White House's bows early in the president's mandate is an excellent idea. As Adam Smith first explained, captive markets get lousy goods at inflated prices. The president can't help thinking, when compromises have to be forged and deals made, that the liberal wing of his party is a captive market. Letting him know early on that he cannot take them for granted may make the preident's job harder, but he's a capable man, and the end result will be better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 06/04/2009
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bring them home

too many died for nothing - over a million so far

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 06/04/2009
- talkitreal I'm a Fan of talkitreal 45 fans permalink

It is just amazing that we have Democrats who think we should just leave Afghanistan for the Taliban, and AlQueada to just stroll back in, and once again turn Afghanistan into their personal terrorist training ground! I suppose these same Democrats do not mind that the Taliban treat their women like slaves, and that the Taliban have been throwing acid into the faces of little girls, just because they want to go to school, and get an education.
Aren`t these the same Democrats who are always the first to be screaming about human rights, well they better be on board voting FOR the war funding. I will remind them that Alqueada, a terrorist organization who has killed thousands of innocent people in terrorist acts, ALL OVER THE WORLD, should not be allowed to simply walk back into Afghanistan and set up their terrorist training camps again. And the Taliban who allowed AlQueada to set up those terrorist camps, and who also financially supported Alqueada, should NOT be allowed to just stroll back into Afghanistan either. The Taliban should not be able to once again subject the ctizens of Aghanistan, and the women of Afghanistan to the repressive, violent, and criminal treatment.­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 06/04/2009
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News flash:

It isn't just Democrats who want the Bush Wars to end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 06/04/2009

'Liberal Dems".

Is that code for Republicans who voted for "ThatOne" ?

Just wondering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 06/04/2009
- drummer4 I'm a Fan of drummer4 2 fans permalink
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Boehner needs to spray hiself Black instead of brown, Is that Dyneshine brown shoe polish he coats himself woth??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 06/04/2009
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If it brings the troops home, I'm all for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 06/04/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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that's not tyler perry ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 06/03/2009
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 06/04/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

FOIA, No funds for IMF, Bring the troops home....So­unds like a Win Win Win to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 06/03/2009
- Truthahn I'm a Fan of Truthahn 17 fans permalink

Boehner is absolutely right. $108 billion of IMF funding is a serious enough matter that it deserves its own debate and its own piece of legislation. The same is true of the Detainee Photographic Records Protection Act. Attaching these important measures to an unrelated bill is exactly the type of crap that makes people so cynical about Washington. You know the White House was involved in making all this happen. It's NOT my idea of the change that Barack Obama promised, though I can't say I ever expected any real change from him. As a candidate he was brutally critical of the very idea of war supplementals, yet now he's got a supplemental on steroids. This thing is far more obnoxious than any of George W. Bush's supplementals. The only change I see is that Obama has made these bills even worse than they already were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 06/03/2009
- thromulese I'm a Fan of thromulese 20 fans permalink
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“The amendment permits the defense secretary to supersede FOIA and suppress any photographs taken of detainees between 9/11 and Obama's inauguration”

Lets just call it the LIEberman/Graham Obstruction of Justice Act of 2009. Cover it up and sweep it under the rug. Typical of LIEberman and his pal Graham.

Nice. Real nice. The FOIA is just so pre911, just like our constitution, and the rule of law.

The scary part is that Obama is acting just like our old king. Sad. Very sad indeed. The only reason Pelosi is for this bill is because she probably knew and approved the torture all along.

I am beginning to believe that our congress and the white house are just full of liars, hypocrites, and spineless servants of torture and tyranny. If that is not true, then they sure do put on a good act.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 06/03/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

"I am beginning to believe that our congress and the white house are just full of liars, hypocrites, and spineless servants of torture and tyranny. If that is not true, then they sure do put on a good act."

I would like to think that we could find some good ones out there. I am hopeful that Ron Paul will get more traction next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 06/04/2009
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BRING THEM HOME...wha­tever it takes.

I am much more afraid of losing my home and job than of terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 06/03/2009
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terrorists­...that want to destroy your home and job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 06/03/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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in wasilla, sure...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 06/03/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

I guess that you missed the Arkansas shooting and the NYC attempt. OhhhBut those were not terriorists correct???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 06/04/2009
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