Gay Marriage: New Hampshire Makes Same-Sex Marriage Legal

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NORMA LOVE | 06/ 3/09 11:23 PM | AP

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The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson, the U.S. Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop, right, shakes hands with Mo Baxley in the gallery of Representatives Hall in the State house after lawmakers voted in favor of gay marriage in Concord, N.H., Wednesday, June 3, 2009.(AP Photo/Jim Cole)

CONCORD, N.H. — New Hampshire became the sixth state to legalize gay marriage Wednesday in a move that reflects the state's changing demographics from reliably Republican and conservative to younger and more liberal.

The Senate and House passed key language on religious rights, Gov. John Lynch _ who personally opposes gay marriage _ signed the legislation Wednesday afternoon.

Lynch, a Democrat, had promised a veto if the law didn't clearly spell out that churches and religious groups would not be forced to officiate at gay marriages or provide other services. Legislators made the changes.

"Today, we are standing up for the liberties of same-sex couples by making clear that they will receive the same rights, responsibilities _ and respect _ under New Hampshire law," Lynch said.

Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont and Iowa already allow gay marriage, though opponents hope to overturn Maine's law with a public vote.

California briefly allowed gay marriage before a public vote banned it; a court ruling grandfathered in couples who were already married.

Lynch said it is now time for the federal government to extend full equal rights to same-sex couples.

After rallies outside the Statehouse by both sides in the morning, the last of three bills in the package went to the Senate, which approved it 14-10 Wednesday afternoon.

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Cheers from the gallery greeted the key vote in the House, which passed it 198-176. Surrounded by gay marriage supporters, Lynch signed the bill about an hour later.

The New Hampshire law will take effect Jan. 1, exactly two years after the state began recognizing civil unions.

The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson, elected in New Hampshire in 2003 as the first openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church, was among those celebrating the new law.

"It's about being recognized as whole people and whole citizens," Robinson said.

"There are a lot of people standing here who when we grew up could not have imagined this," he said. "You can't imagine something that is simply impossible. It's happened, in our lifetimes."

Opponents objected on grounds including the fragmented process.

"It is no surprise that the Legislature finally passed the last piece to the gay marriage bill today. After all, when you take 12 votes on five iterations of the same issue, you're bound to get it passed sooner or later," said Kevin Smith, executive director of gay marriage opponent Cornerstone Policy Research.

The revised bill clarified that church-related organizations that serve charitable or educational purposes are exempt from having to provide insurance and other benefits to same-sex spouses of employees.

The House rejected the language Lynch suggested two weeks ago by two votes. Wednesday's vote was on a revised bill negotiated with the Senate.

"The pro-gay marriage people have been very disingenuous," said Fenton Groen, 59, of Rochester, N.H. "They told us two years ago that if civil unions were passed, that would completely satisfy them. Within two years, they have completely changed their minds."

Supporters had considered Wednesday their last chance to pass a bill this year.

Rob Davis of Concord and his partner of 27 years, Dean Davis, were in the jubilant crowd outside afterward.

They had a civil union last year.

"It didn't go far enough," Rob Davis said of their civil union. "We're real happy."

New Hampshire's decision leaves Rhode Island as the only New England state not to allow same-sex marriages. A bill there is expected to fail this year, as similar ones have in previous years.

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Associated Press Writer David Tirrell-Wysocki in Concord, N.H., contributed to this report.

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Obama deputy campaign manager abandons DOMA & DADT as priorities
http://www.americablog.com/2009/07/obama-deputy-campaign-manager-abandons.html

"After two weeks of the Obama White House reeling over the gay backlash caused by the anti-gay DOMA brief, which compared gay marriage to incest and pedophilia, we now have...

First, that the burden for doing anything pro-gay in the remaining three and a half years of the Obama administration is now shifted to Congress. Obama has no role whatsoever, and no power to influence anything, even though he's still the leader of the free world.

Second, the three big gay rights priorities that Congress should be focusing on do not even include what have organically become the community's top two priorities: repealing DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. They're not even mentioned in the Obama deputy's essay."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 07/03/2009
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A brotherhood pairing was one of the first liturgical rites practiced in the catholic church. Matelotage, the origin of the word "Matey", has been around forever.

http://www.tangentspace.net/cz/archives/2007/06/pirates-and-the-original-gay-marriage/

Jesus may have even partook himself...

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/secretmark.html

He definitely did not look down upon gay relationships as indicated in the following.

http://web.archive.org/web/20001006052618/www.bway.net/~halsall/lgbh/lgbh-matt8.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 06/10/2009
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NH did the right thing, for the most part. Since the state issues the marriage license and and is the legal record keeper of the marriage, all citizens should have equal access. Even criminals behind bars can get married, and we fight over whether or not law abiding gay people deserve equal access to a state issued mariage license?
It is only the cerimony performed by a clergy member that makes the union holy in the eyes of God, and when a judge grants a divorce to so many of those "trying to defend marriage", it breaks only the states contract between the two parties (this is why some churches will not allow divorced people to marry, becasue the holy union is still there).
NH did the right thing allowing all residents to be able to get a marriage license. I do think they went a bit far in protecting those who discriminate by with holding non-religious services to gay couples based on religion, like couples counseling. What if the church did not believe in interacial marriages, should they be allowed to with hold couples counceling from interacial couples. It would be an outrage and no one would stand for it since it was not a religious event, yet the Gov. mandated it. That was sad. Don't bill insurance companies for your services if you want to hand pick your clients (NH mandates pastoral counseling be covered by insurances).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 06/08/2009

New Hampshire is now, more than ever, the "live free of die" state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 06/08/2009
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The dam of social injustice has been broken; let flow the waters of progress, liberty, and equality.

To those who would oppose equal marriage with misinformation, lies, or hatred: "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 06/05/2009
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Don't bother with Morality. He's a tro// and will never listen to reason. It's only a small step out of the closet Morality, you can do it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/04/2009
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Why should he/she step out of the closet when it's so much easier (and cowardly) to anonymously play with the gay people here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 06/05/2009

For some reason, this also didn't post. To "Morality":

Your right. It doesn't make you a bigot. It makes you a moralizing busybody, minding someone else's business, obsessed with someone else's sex life enough to comment on it in a public forum. I suspect your sex life would gross me out, which is why I don't think about it.

What makes someone a bigot is when you denigrate a whole group of people whom you don't know and clearly know nothing about, when you make it your business to make their lives as difficult and unpleasant as possible, to deny them what you take for granted for yourself, to insist that in every legal way, you have a right to express your disapproval on their backs, spewing hate in a chutrch and calling it love, telling any lie, no matter how vicious and untrue, just because it makes YOU feel better.

That's what makes someone a bigot. Only you can tell whether you are a bigot or just a busybody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 06/04/2009
- Morality I'm a Fan of Morality 2 fans permalink

I'm a busybody...I have many gay friends...I am a conservative who enjoys ruffling the feathers of the liberals...thank you all for the entertainment...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 06/04/2009
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Lol, the jokes on you buddy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/04/2009
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So you have imaginary friends? Interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 06/05/2009

For some reason, this didn't post. To "Morality": It is clear you don't know gay people anything about us. Too bad, because it does just make you not merely ignorant

The only people who feel shame in their homosexuality are those who can't stop hating themselves long enough to say "enough" to ignorant, bigoted, sex-and-sin obsessed busybodies. Incidentally, many straights feel exactly the same-- sex shames and cows them.

What do these things mentioned to do with homosexuality? Nothing, of course, except that anything about sex clearly scares the hell out of you. If you can marry a woman, why can't you marry two? Why not your sister? And why would you want to sleep with your mother or sister? Why 10 wives? These are your isues, not mine. If the condemnation of homosexuality is the only thing that keeps you from incest then honey, you have problems.

You don't approve of homosexuality, or as you would probably put it, you're not in agreement with our "immoral choice". Let me tell you something. I don't approve of bigots. But the world is full of people just like you, who feel you have the right to do and say whatever you like to people you don't know, whom you clearly know nothing about, and who have done you no harm.

You can tell me all aobut how moral you are when you spend as much time feeding the starving as you do attacking people you don't know anything about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 06/04/2009
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Dude, chill. You're debating a closet case. They seem to have some idea that the more they put down homo's, it will make them less gay, though they already know that isn't the case. Leave them to it. We have more important things to put our energy into-- for example, my upcoming weekend in Palm Springs at a nude gay resort with 200 men at an all night pool party hosted by Porn stars from Treasure Island Media. Now that is worth some energy. LOL, lovin life.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 06/04/2009
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Dude, chill. You're debating a closet case. They seem to have some idea that the more they put down gay issues, the less gay they will be, though they already know that isn't the case. Leave them to it. We have more important things to put our energy into-- for example, my upcoming weekend in Palm Springs at a nude gay resort with 200 men at an all night pool party hosted by Porn stars from Treasure Island Media. Now that is worth some energy. LOL, lovin life.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/04/2009
- Morality I'm a Fan of Morality 2 fans permalink

"...say whatever you like to people you don't know, whom you clearly know nothing about,..."

Um, while you were sitting in your armchair watching Will and Grace following Hurricane Katrina, I left my job and career to go perform animal rescue in New Orleans....i remained there for nine months and was part f an operation that saved over 5000 companion animals. I've done my share of feeding the starving...

Maybe you should practice what you preach...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 06/04/2009
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In that sentence he was refering to your treatment of homosexuals on these boards and the fact you obviously know nothing about them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 06/05/2009
- mag68 I'm a Fan of mag68 15 fans permalink

Blah, Blah, Blah. Hypocrite, Pansy, Closet Case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 06/05/2009
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My references to incest and polygamy were merely for the sake of example...i assumed that was obvious...I only used such far out examples to illustrate that EVERYONE has limits on what they feel is moral or right., and that homosexuals are not exempt, nor any better or more evolved than I..sorry for any confusion there...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 06/04/2009
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No you are obsessed with them, you bring them up constantly even though they get debunked right and left. One can only assume you don't read the replies, are to thick to get it, or are completely obsessed with the idea of incest and polygamy. Otherwise you would have moved on to better arguments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 06/05/2009
- mag68 I'm a Fan of mag68 15 fans permalink

Oh what a total BS'er, go back into your closet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 06/05/2009
- Morality I'm a Fan of Morality 2 fans permalink

There is one instance in which I am in favor of gay marriage...I'm in favor of gay marriage only if both chicks are hot...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 06/04/2009
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The Ted Haggard fan club is back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/04/2009
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Isn't it past your bedtime?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 06/05/2009
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"The revised bill clarified that church-related organizations that serve charitable or educational purposes are exempt from having to provide insurance and other benefits to same-sex spouses of employees."

Fine. Their prerogative. Now take away their tax exempt status.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 06/04/2009
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There ARE already MANY LGBT affirming religous denominations - that Gladly would marry LGBT people....aren't thier Religous Rights being Trampled on,..since in other states THEY Can't marry whom they wish?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 06/04/2009
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Interesting point. I like it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 06/04/2009

Congrats to New Hampshire! iIwent to college at UNH when I lived in Dover, NH.

As the top Justice of the Peace in CT, I have been thrilled and honored to officiate at over 175 same sex ceremonies (about 100 civil unions and now about 75 marriages).

it is such an exciting time! New England founded the country and now is leading the way for the USA.

hooray!

Mary

Mary C Pugh
CT's TOP Justice of the Peace.
ct-jp.comp.com
www.ct-jp.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 06/04/2009
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Granite State, indeed!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 06/04/2009
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It is amazing to me that California is now in league with all the retrograde states...they need to step up and get it done. Congrats to NH...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 06/04/2009
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ONE WORLD ONE PEOPLE ONE GLOBAL FAMILY

HOORAY FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE! _)

Everyone everywhere with the exact same full human rights....now that's something to aspire to, a united state of earth w/ love, mercy, nonjudgment, nonviolence, cooperative, kindness, liberty and justice for all.

sing dat song bro's and sista soulja's

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