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First Posted: 06- 3-09 11:24 AM   |   Updated: 07- 4-09 05:12 AM

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As a deadline for introducing a health care reform bill approaches the progressive community, which has been biting its tongue for weeks if not months, is now making calculated moves to force President Obama's hand.

Several times on the campaign trail candidate Obama called for sustained pressure from the left to enable him to make more ambitious policy decisions in the health care arena. Former DNC Chair Howard Dean echoed these sentiments at a recent panel on the future of health care reform and urged the American people to "hold their [Democratic representatives'] feet to the fire to make sure they behave like Democrats."

In anticipation of a heated ideological debate, the White House is now shifting the parameters of the discussion -- from the philosophical to pragmatic. A report released by the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) on June 2, stressed the economic necessity of passing healthcare reform as a means of lowering the deficit while increasing gross domestic product.

The study weighed projected costs under the current system against a set of anticipated outcomes if healthcare reform is passed.

One such outcome is the slowing of the annual growth rate of health care costs by 1.5 percent. Accomplishing this, said Christina Romer, chair of the CEA, would generate a 2 percent increase in GDP in 2020 -- compared with a "no-reform baseline" -- and an increase of almost 8 percent by 2030. For the average family of four, these cost reductions would translate to an additional $2,600 in income in 2020 and an extra $10,000 in 2030. It's the equivalent of a "billion dollar bills lying on the sidewalk," said Romer of the existing system.

By framing the debate in terms of economic imperatives the administration seems to be seeking to ward off partisan politics for as long as possible. "You don't see anyone walking out yet,' said David Cutler, Professor of Applied Economics at Harvard University and veteran of the Clinton era healthcare battle.

Maybe so. But progressives are drawing increasingly bold lines in the sand:

"We have polled [Congressional Progressive Caucus] members very carefully in recent weeks and a strong majority will only support comprehensive healthcare reform legislation that includes a public plan option on a level playing field with private health insurance plans," CPC co-chairpersons Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) wrote in a letter to the Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leaders in early April.

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Speaking to the America's Future NOW! conference, Dean said, "We cannot spend a trillion and half dollars of the taxpayer's money by rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic!" If there's no public option, do nothing! Don't waste our money."

Simply including the words "public option" may not be enough. One alleged compromise put forth by Republicans and some centrist Democrats to scuttle a public plan option, is the notion of a trigger that would mandate its implementation only if the private market fails to meet a certain set of criteria. This model would resemble the Medicare Part D option, which conservatives tout as evidence that there is no need for a public option because the trigger for Medicare Part D has yet to be pulled. However, upon closer inspection, the patients themselves have no control over the criteria that would lead to pulling the trigger if their needs are not met, ensuring that the option of a public plan was never really a viable one, say some health care experts.

"The trigger [under Medicare Part D] would come into play in any county where there weren't at least two private drug plans, but that has never come close to happening. It has nothing to do with containing costs or guaranteeing quality or access or anything that works for patients and consumers," said Jacki Schechner of Healthcare for America NOW.

But even if progressives hold the line and insist on a public option worthy of its name, the question remains, what would such a plan actually look like? Romer, in her final words to a room full of reporters and members of the medical community called on health care practitioners and physicians themselves to pitch in with ideas. "The people who actually know what the reforms [should be] need to stand up," she said.

She might just have an answer. One of those physicians, Dr. Salomeh Keyhani of Mount Sinai hospital in New York, who was speaking on the same panel as Dean, said that the "silent majority" of physicians who support a public plan are poised to do just that.

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As a deadline for introducing a health care reform bill approaches the progressive community, which has been biting its tongue for weeks if not months, is now making calculated moves to force Presiden...
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- jonbw I'm a Fan of jonbw 6 fans permalink

I'm prepared and all the rest of the progressive movement needs to be prepared to abondan the Democratic party is they do not pass a public plan available to everyone right away. This is about more than health care. This is about choosing to put coporate interest ahead of public good. Let your repersentatives know that his is a make or break vote. No voting for Any Dem who votes against it. Primaries for every Dem who tries to push for this fake "trigger".

It may shrink the party but that does not matter. It is a core principle and campaign promise, where the data is overwhelm that a public plan will help average americans. If they can't support a public plan they are literally useless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 06/04/2009
- JDM73 I'm a Fan of JDM73 40 fans permalink
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This "Keep pressuring us! Make sure we do the right thing!" nonsense is insulting. You know why we voted you into office, why we contributed our money, time, and effort to your campaigns. Do the right thing or don't. This isn't a game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/04/2009

President Obama is taking his support for granted. We love him, but if he sells us out on healthcare, credit cards, bank reform, and environmental protection, he will be out on his a** in 2012. We stood in the rain campaigning for him, spent our money, and dreamed the dream he sold us, and even then he only won by 3%. If we lose our enthusiasm, he is done.

With a Demcratic House, Senate, and President, if we can't get things done now, we will never get things done - there will never be a better opportunity. If he squanders that oppportunity, the progressive movement is finished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 06/04/2009
- dps2 I'm a Fan of dps2 permalink

Obama has no choice in this matter, or any other. He is given his orders and he dutifully carries them out. Don't you guys know this yet?

Senator Obama was pro single payer. President Obama wont even let it be discussed. Why do you think that is?

Senator Obama came out of nowhere and from way behind to win the nomination; as did Senator McCain. Do you people think that was an accident? That is wasn't orchastrated?

We have no say so in anything. Don't you get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 06/04/2009
- krechsd I'm a Fan of krechsd 5 fans permalink

Barack and Dems have to deliver on Health Care or it changes the game for Progressives. We've been biting our tounges over some of the hot button issues like gun control, drug law reform and going after the Bush criminals who sabataged the Constitution, so we don't give the Repugs any traction or detract fom the meaningful reform of health care, education, ennvironmental protection and climate change. But if these begin to get compromised to meaninglessness, especially health care, then there is no reason to hold back on the other issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 AM on 06/04/2009
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If our politicians don't see that a universal health care system is what we need in this country, then I feel an "REVOLUTION" is the only way they will SEE that this is what we NEED and WANT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 06/04/2009
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Having the Health Insurance industry design the plan is just the same as Dick Cheney inviting the oil companies and polluters to design the energy policy. How did that work out? Are we better off than we were before their plan? The health insurers do not have the best interest of the American Public at heart. They will not fix the problem. We need Single Payer Health Care for everyone. If people want supplemental insurance then let them get it from the Insurance Industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 06/04/2009
- marijam I'm a Fan of marijam 36 fans permalink
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I agree. If no public option, then do nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 06/03/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 185 fans permalink
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Just like the credit card "reform" stopped being so when they took out usury limits, health care "reform" stops being so without a public single payer plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 06/03/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 68 fans permalink
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The Obama I voted for in regards to health care, is the one who, during the October 7,2009 debate stated that all Americans should be able to purchase the same health care he has, and one that doesn't exclude pre existing conditions as he saw how much of his mother's time battling cancer was spent fighting with for profit insurance companies.

This "Trigger" c rap is horse pucky. I'm tired of the public being the Lone Ranger on health care. When evil is being done, when the haves are robbing the have nots, where are our so called law makers?

Or is discussion now becoming like that old cartoon where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by a Indian war party, and the Lone Ranger looks to his friend Tonto as says "Boy are we in trouble my friend", Tonto replies "What's this 'we' pale face?

Has Obama turned his back on us and returned to his senate roots?

Sadly, I think we'll be riding off into the sunset alone.

Well, not alone, those insurance bean counters will be riding along collecting those monthly premiums, and like Tonto, when needed, leave us in the lurch.

(No, this is not meant as an anti Native American commentary)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 06/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 148 fans permalink

Get ready for a boat ride folks. We're being sold down the river.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 06/03/2009
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I think Obama is a masterful politician as he has been described and we cannot know what the actiual campaign stratedgy is. There will be parries and thrust and if We The People keep up the pressure it will work. If you haven't read the post of what happened to Baucus' staff in Montana at town halls you should it's beautiful. We The People must get really mad and go to work. Love your posts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 06/03/2009
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Let's me put it this way if these guys believe the fight is over. I say it has just begun and it up to everyone who can afford to call, or has a computer, or pen & paper and money for stamps to write your congressional people, Baucas, King, the white house and anyone else you can think of and do it once, twice, three, four ........ and on and on. Do not give up do not despair there are more of us We The People than the lobbists and if we are noisy enough and do not quit we will win this fight. Talk to your neighbors, relatives, friends, and others. I am a chiropractor and if you want tell them you want chiropractic fully included. I don't know how I'll fare or even be included but I know this the present system is denycare b/c of profit and until profit system have to compete against the public cheaper system they will alway be denycare. We are the only industrialized nation without the public option what is wrong with us.
This is a barroom brawl and we will have to fight, organzie, march and fight some more. I believe it will be worth it.
Start calling the insurance what it is it's expensive denycare, denycare, denycare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 06/03/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 68 fans permalink
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ThomasPain­eWeNeedYou , you are indeed a smart and insightful person.

I'm with you on the barroom brawl agree we need we'll have to fight, organize, march and fight some more.

I'd like to believe it will be worth it, but just as with caps on TARP recipients bonuses, it's the good fight that will be left bleeding on the floor of the congress while the congress is out partying with the CEO's crowing about defeating "socialism".

However, that should never deter us from fighting for what we beleive in. Battles will be lost in any war, but no war will ever be won if the battles are never fought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 06/03/2009
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Thamks for the kind words from another fan of Tom Paine. It is inded a fight and just like Ghandi we must enlist the nation or We The People in active non-violent protests and campaigns to change this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 06/03/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

from KQuark

"Send a free fax to congress and the whtie house.

http://www­.1payer.ne­t/action-a­lerts/send­-a-free-ef­ax-to-poli­cymakers.h­tml

Contact your congress people and see where they stand on the public option.

http://standwithdrdean.com/where_congress_stands

Contact the white house.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

March on the white house if you can June 25th.

http://www­.1payer.ne­t/action-a­lerts/313-­national-r­ally.html"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 06/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 148 fans permalink

Either we get a single payer government run health insurance program that provides universal coverage or we don't get health care.

End of story.

Have you called or written your congressional delegation? How about your state governor? I've written Bernie Sanders to see if there's anything I can do to move his bill forward. Get involved people or get ready for a boat ride because they're working hard to sell you down the river.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 148 fans permalink

Meant to say "or we don't get health care reform".

Getting excited here. Sorry for the obfuscation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 06/03/2009

No, you were pretty much dead-up right the first time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 06/03/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 68 fans permalink
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I think "we don't get health care" may very well be closer to the truth.

Imagine a world where insurance companies see the public rage over an issue, elect a man whose personal story talks about a mother dying of cancer whose time is wasted fighting insurance companies over pre existing conditions and denial of coverage, a man who says every American should have access to purchase or pay into a public health insurance plan of stay with their current one if they are satisfied, and yet, no such plan is put on the table.

Just how much care do you think they'll approve afterwards when it's been clearly demonstrated that the "people's representatives" are for sale at bargain basement prices and the public is impotent in bringing about the changes they demanded?

Premiums will go up, care will decrease, for it will be proven change is not something we can beleive in, but only dream about in a representative style of government, that is not a democracy.

It's time for national referendums to be made available to the people since we have but two parties, and their interests are about their donors not their voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 06/03/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

rom KQuark

"Send a free fax to congress and the whtie house.

http://www­.1payer.ne­t/action-a­lerts/send­-a-free-ef­ax-to-poli­cymakers.h­tml

Contact your congress people and see where they stand on the public option.

http://standwithdrdean.com/where_congress_stands

Contact the white house.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

March on the white house if you can June 25th.

http://www­.1payer.ne­t/action-a­lerts/313-­national-r­ally.html"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 06/03/2009
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Bookmarked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 06/03/2009
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"I agree with you. I want to do it. Now make me do it."

FDR

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 06/03/2009
- ncmom54 I'm a Fan of ncmom54 56 fans permalink
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I like that quote... it's like summonsing a battle cry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/03/2009
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 128 fans permalink
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It's now or never, if this doesn't get taken care of during Obama's first term it won't get done period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 06/03/2009
- AMERIKA I'm a Fan of AMERIKA 14 fans permalink

In the "Be Careful What You Wish For" category, I share this...last Saturday i was sprinting at the track when my knee "blew up". I called an orthopedic surgeon friend on Sunday morning when it was clear that I had done internal damage. I had an MRI on Sunday on short notice, saw him in his office on Wednesday and had surgery to repair a torn meniscus on Friday.

I am an advocate of single payer insurance, and a health care provider in the community, and I can tell you this: There is the likelihood that a single payer plan will result in rationing which essentially means that my acute knee injury, so swiftly dealt with, would likely take much longer to attend to under such a system.

So be careful what you wish for is my take away from that experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 06/03/2009

I am not worried about "rationing". My HMO already ratiions so it can support its CEO. In your story you also mentioned that you knew the surgeon. MOst of us don't know our surgeons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/03/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

he's worried about rationing when there are 40 million who don't have insurance and those who do can have coverage denied, ie. rationing.

Part 1: When staying alive means going bankrupt - Gut Check- msnbc.com - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20201807/

http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml - every 30 seconds someone WITH insurance goes bankrupt. but the real threat is rationing with a public plan? right. I'll buy that one after a lobotomy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/03/2009

I find your post confusing and adding to the fear factor. You say "I am an advocate of single payer insurance" and then "be careful of what you wish for". I don't believe you are an advocate in the least. Sorry. Plus, as someone mentioned, it helps that your FRIEND is an orthopedic surgeon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 06/03/2009
- AMERIKA I'm a Fan of AMERIKA 14 fans permalink

True, but my friend would not be able to have operated so quickly if my insurance was not blue chip. I pay a lot for my insurance, I want every single person covered with plans equal or superior to my plan, but for that to happen, the only way is to ration care....what this means is that at some point, probably over say 80 years old, certain services will be denied since most of the $$ we spend that we cna easily save is spent during the last 10 days of life. That is rationing...and when it extends into other areas, like say knee surgery, then like in Canada, over 40, no ACL reconstruction is offered as an example...so I advocate and support single payer for so many reasons, but this experience this week gave me pause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 06/03/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. he's definitely for the insurance companies, and probably works for them.

millions in this country have no insurance, and every 30 seconds people WITH insurance go bankrupt because they are denied coverage.
people like him don't care if others don't have health insurance. all they care about is that they can make money from someone else's suffering and pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 06/03/2009
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 68 fans permalink
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Now imagine the working man, with two jobs, no health care at all. His knee is blown out on his way to work. Now he can't work, gets no treatment, his family loses everything, including their self respect.

There is good news however, is months later, now that he no job, no assets at all, savings & checking gone, housing lost, he qualifies for Medicare/Medicade, a single payer government system. The damage to the knee has gotten worse, full use might not happen. A year after the injury, he can use his knee again, but he can't find any work in our current economy.

I think that he, like me, would be willing to wait a short time, as would his employers, as he will get the treatment within a reasonable time they can plan around, instead of having to spend more money training someone to do his job(s) but may not turn out to be as good a worker.

My doctor, Canadian born and trained, practiced here for 11 years, but grew frustrated with insurance companies telling him what treatment he could provide. Last year he returned home. He's now an extremely happy doctor who reports the rationing argument is crap except for elective surgery like face lifts, nose jobs etc . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/03/2009
- StrayTalk I'm a Fan of StrayTalk 7 fans permalink
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Sorry, but I have Canadian friends, who are also marathon runners who would completely disagree with you on this. They have their own doctors. Most of their health care is FREE. They are about 80% or more very satisfied with their health care. My American friends and my family...about 30% or less- are satisfied (I'm being generous here) Those that are happy in US are somewhat more wealthy-- but two I know are in a union. Very unscientific polling- agreed on my part!... but please talk to Canadians yourself. Don't fall for the FOX news lies!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 06/03/2009
- JBCinSD I'm a Fan of JBCinSD 4 fans permalink

The best healthcare reform plan of all those I have read is in a small paperback: 
Healthcare, Guaranteed, by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (formerly of the NIH) 
It is the best of public oversight and private delivery. His Guaranteed Healthcare Access Plan:



1) guarantees coverage for 100% of Americans at the level of the insurance currently provided to members of Congress



2) gives everyone a choice of insurers, hospitals and doctors



3) changes the fee-for-service paradigm and focuses on high-quality, co-ordinated healthcare with emphasis on outcome; information flow in both directions is vital 



4) pays for itself from a dedicated fund that cannot be raided for other government programs



5) encompasses the framework for reasonable and timely dispute resolution



6) separates health insurance from employment, getting that function off the backs of businesses and eliminating the primary cause of labor disputes



7) ) achieves cost controls through eliminating redundant bureaucracies, fraud and excessive administrative costs



Dr. Emanuel outlines his plan on PBS here:



http://www.pbs.org/now/news/315.html



and learn more about it at:

www.healthcareguaranteed.org

The plan is simple and comprehensive. I recommend finding out about it to anyone interested in true healthcare reform. This is the moment - let's be bold and get it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 06/03/2009
- MNinWI I'm a Fan of MNinWI 15 fans permalink
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No more insurance companies-they should not profit off people being sick! They should not stop people from getting treatment! They should not be sucking the life out of health care. We have had it & we will keep speaking out loud & clear-no comprises-they need to be eliminated for the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 06/03/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

ok, I listened to it. pbs as usual does good interviews.

that being said, from what I heard this is a horrible plan that relies on the the assumption that for-profit insurance companies will suddenly become the "good guys".
are you Fing kidding me? these people make money of people's suffering and pain. they deny coverage all the time if they can justify it. every 30 seconds someone WITH insurance goes bankrupt (http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml).
and these people are all of a sudden not going to make a profit at people's expense? please.
as long as there is a motive for profit by these insurance companies they will do so at people's expense. time and time again their only priority is to make money, and history has shown that although they are supposed to provide healthcare, often they do not for the sake of money.
how many families have been hurt by this? how many children? just so they could make a buck!

this is not guarantee coverage. the only guarantee is that if your child gets sick, if you're poor then your child suffers, as long as private for-profit insurance companies are involved.
oh ya, I have no idea where you got the above list from. doesn't sound like the interview. maybe it's ideal solution IF the insurance companies somehow discover their humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 06/03/2009
- BBinMT I'm a Fan of BBinMT 2 fans permalink

The so called "trigger" option the senate is considering needs to go away. Sen. Schumer weighed in today and said the criteria for the trigger had already been met. We need sweeping reform of healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 06/03/2009

Thank God Schumer said something that makes sense. Of course the criteria for the trigger have already been met.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 06/03/2009
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