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Michael Lewis: Wall Street Made This Mess And Is Making Fortune Cleaning It Up (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 06- 7-09 06:21 PM   |   Updated: 06- 7-09 07:34 PM

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Michael Lewis, the former Salomon Brothers trader who wrote "Liar's Poker" about the excesses of Wall Street during the 1980s, delivered a devastating critique of the financial industry and of the government bailout today on CNN"s "Fareed Zakaria GPS."

Lewis thinks that the government's rescue efforts have only served to postpone a "day of reckoning" for Wall Street:

I think that we are in for another day of reckoning down the road. I just don't know when it is.


I think that they haven't even properly evaluated the institutions.

They haven't been honest about what these institutions have on their books. They've had phony stress tests.

So, we're in a kind of, I think, right now, in a period where there's a false sense that it's over, that the crisis is passed. I don't think the crisis is passed.

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Part of the problem, Lewis argues, is that the architects of the bailout are too cozy with the banks which created the financial crisis in the first place, even speculating that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner is already looking ahead to a cushy job in the private sector.

"...one of the things that's odd about the current situation is that the people who created the problem are so powerful in deciding what the solution to the problem is going to be. There is a great tradition on Wall Street of making a fortune, creating a mess, and then making a fortune cleaning it up. But to do it on this scale is breathtaking to me.
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And it is amazing to me the degree to which, say, Goldman Sachs is intertwined with the Treasury, and how they're -- there don't seem to be any independent voices in the thick of the decision-making. The decision-making is all being done by people who one way or another might expect to make a lot of money from Goldman Sachs in the future...

So, on a grander scale, if I'm Tim Geithner and I'm the secretary of the treasury, what do you think he's going to do when he stops being secretary of the treasury? His natural next step is go work in the financial sector. I don't think he's actually thinking, "I've got to be nice to the people on Wall Street, because they're going to make me rich on the back end of it."

Further, he believes that regulation has been ineffective because the regulators are conflicted, expressing shock that this cozy connection is considered routine in Washington:

But the directors of the last three -- let's see, three of the last four or four of the last five directors of enforcement of the SEC work for big Wall Street banks now...


And you can just assume, I think, that if you're a prominent person at the SEC, your exit strategy is to get a lot of money from a Wall Street firm. And nobody says anything about it. That's the amazing thing.

It's not even thought scandalous. It's just thought normal. It's like a natural career -- a step in a financial career.

Lewis believes that two principal causes of the crisis were that the ratings agencies were weak and that credit-default swaps were unregulated.

But even if proper regulation is brought to bear on Wall Street, Lewis remains pessimistic. As "a natural cynic," he adds that really smart people in positions of privilege will find ways to get around the new rules."

Lewis expressed his shock at the scale of the current crisis, saying that when he wrote his book, he thought "it was the end of something," and he was determined to capture that era in print because he assumed that people 15 years later would hardly believe what had happened during that previous crisis.

"And I turned out to be completely wrong."

In fact, it was just the beginning of a long era in Wall Street, culminating in the "point of madness," as Lewis describes it, describing his experience at Salomon Brothers where revenues were increasingly being generated by risk-taking and proprietary trading.

Lewis described the internal logic at the big Wall Street firms, where top executives are pressured to make the riskiest moves because those are the ones that were generating the most money:

The logic of it, internal to the Wall Street firms, is that if I'm the CEO of Citigroup or Merrill Lynch, and the vast majority of my revenues are coming out of this subprime mortgage machine, and I just shut it down, unless I'm incredibly lucky in the timing of it, it's going to look like I've just jettisoned my single most important business. My competitors are all going to be earning fantastic returns on their capital, and I'm going to be out of it. And I'll probably be out of a job.


Meanwhile, all the guys who are going along with it are getting paid huge sums of money at the end of every year. The efficient strategy for the individual trader was to ignore his reason and participate in the madness.

Michael Lewis, the former Salomon Brothers trader who wrote "Liar's Poker" about the excesses of Wall Street during the 1980s, delivered a devastating critique of the financial industry and of the gov...
Michael Lewis, the former Salomon Brothers trader who wrote "Liar's Poker" about the excesses of Wall Street during the 1980s, delivered a devastating critique of the financial industry and of the gov...
 
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- killpack I'm a Fan of killpack 4 fans permalink

"Part of the problem, Lewis argues, is that the architects of the bailout are too cozy with the banks which created the financial crisis in the first place, even speculating that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner is already looking ahead to a cushy job in the private sector."

100% correct. The majority of Americans did not approve of bailing out the banks back in the fall. Why? Because they knew it wouldn't benefit them. The majority of Congress, however, did approve because they knew they (Congress) WOULD benefit.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 6/09/2009
- themodernleader I'm a Fan of themodernleader 120 fans permalink

PhillipTaylor. Your recommendations are so sensible and sound that neither Party will give them the light of day. I was against term limits until I moved to a Congressional District that has undemocratic, one family government. One family for the State Assembly, One family for the House of Representatives. Both officiers strut around like princes of royal blood. Most of the time they are out of sight and access. They take care of the big money contributors. They provide welfare for the rest of their jobless backers.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 6/08/2009
- BurtonOerney I'm a Fan of BurtonOerney 49 fans permalink
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I don't understand how the stress tests are 'phony.' If they were, wouldn't banks be failing now? They certainly shouldn't be able to raise private money. Any why are financial stocks so stable? Seems like investors believe the results of the phony tests. Weird.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 6/08/2009
- nezumi I'm a Fan of nezumi 2 fans permalink

Wow. This is soooo cool. Just love that guy. And I thought there were no more intelligent people....

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 6/08/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

Get rid of the IRS by instituting the flat tax.
Get rid of the Fed who are the ones that created this mess in the first place.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 6/08/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

D@mn this guy was smart wasnt he.


"What has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and powers into one body, no matter whether of the autocrats of Russia or France, or of the aristocrats of a Venetian Senate." --Thomas Jefferson


"[The] Bank of the United States... is one of the most deadly hostility existing, against the principles and form of our Constitution... An institution like this, penetrating by its branches every part of the Union, acting by command and in phalanx, may, in a critical moment, upset the government. I deem no government safe which is under the vassalage of any self-constituted authorities, or any other authority than that of the nation, or its regular functionaries. What an obstruction could not this bank of the United States, with all its branch banks, be in time of war! It might dictate to us the peace we should accept, or withdraw its aids. Ought we then to give further growth to an institution so powerful, so hostile?" --Thomas Jefferson

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 6/08/2009
- frontman9000 I'm a Fan of frontman9000 8 fans permalink

A Flat Tax? - And what happens to the revenues when the economy tanks and no one is consuming any products? If you are referring to a flat sales tax across the board.
If you are referring to a flat income tax rate for everybody than that is even more ludicrous. The goverment would not be able to afford anything and it would bring in much, much less than it does now in revenue.

Flat tax is a terrible idea. It is easy to circumvent and gives the rich another loophole out of paying their taxes.

Brief history lesson: The Fed was created by Republicans and banking magnates who manufactured a banking crisis in the early 20th century to create a banking cartel. They screwed us forever in the process.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 6/08/2009
- zukervati I'm a Fan of zukervati 25 fans permalink
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Aw snap, pwned!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 6/08/2009
- joebaggadonuts I'm a Fan of joebaggadonuts 128 fans permalink

Michael Lewis is simply gobsmacked. It's very nice to see his description of events since he has been on the inside, without the pedigree and the ego that everyone else had to have to get there. He's calling it like he sees it.

However, he is not the brightest one who was there. He did not participate and suck all that wall street money into his bank account - he earned his money writing. If you want to see an alternative viewpoint, try Leveraged Sellout's book and website. It's not pretty. http://leveragedsellout.com/

Clearly regulation as Michael Lewis says, which forces financial enterprises to support industrial goals are needed. We will do that. We must do that. Ethics MUST prevail (whether it's internal or regulated as needed for the greater good) if we are to have sanity and civilization. Industrial policy is something we need because we have lost so much already that we need to have collaborative direction toward sustainability for humanity.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 6/08/2009
- KennyFox I'm a Fan of KennyFox 5 fans permalink
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I think someone needs to discuss the whole culture of Fast Money. Is it an American thing? We want to lose weight fast, gain muscles fast, be a celebrity fast, have kids fast, divorce faster, etc etc. Everything is now now now now. Look at the market, the Direxion 3x leveraged bull and bear financial funds trade as much and often more than the SPDR S&P 500 ETF, which is the most popularly traded ETF in the world! Direxion super three times leveraged funds traded more than Microsoft. ANd these babies are brand spanking new. The culture of Fast Money IS the culture of Wall Street.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 6/08/2009
- Octoberluna I'm a Fan of Octoberluna 25 fans permalink

Yes - regulations in place in other countries have prevented this from happening in their own financial sector, sure there have been losers but it is more than likely those that lost were invested in the NYSE. Pension funds that have been properly mamaged are in deep doo doo due to no fault of their own and every fault of those "skilled" stockpickers who haven't been able to pick their noses successfully for some time. Most of the US Inv Managers I have dealt with are so smarmily arrogant that I feel icky having to do business with them at all.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 6/08/2009
- ciabrat I'm a Fan of ciabrat 3 fans permalink
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Any ideas why Paul Volcker and his group seem largely excluded from the administration's internal decision-making processes? Is Summers deliberately cutting off their access to the President?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 6/08/2009
- periscope I'm a Fan of periscope 4 fans permalink

What is infuriating is that those who brought about this economic disaster are being allowed to get even richer cleaning up the mess they made. Banks in New England, banks that have received taxpayer bailout funds are still foreclosing on homes. But worse, they refuse to pay the taxes due on these homes, driving towns and cities into further financial distress.
You'd think that since they got bailed out themselves, the banks would at least pay the taxes on the properties they repossess. But the culture of greed and stupidity continues to prevail in our financial institutions.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 6/08/2009
- iamnumba1 I'm a Fan of iamnumba1 4 fans permalink

Hello McFlys? Knock knock...The TARP (Troubled Asset Recovery Program) was developed and implemented by Henry Paulson and the Bush Admin. It was not the current president's doing.

I have no problem criticizing the President if necessary. However, I have not had anything to criticize. The President pushed through a stimulus plan for the people, and it is working. We can track how the money is being spent, and there is transparency. I see signs in my state and neighborhood that things are starting to turn around.

Obama's stimulus and the FAILED TARP program are LIGHT YEARS apart. At least, AT LEAST, the current administration is is a lot more cautious of how the money is being delivered to the Wall Street goons.

Remember the outrage when the stock market was down and Obama basically said that he didn't care whether the stock market was up or down? He is a President of the people, not the banks.

So, again, when I have reason to criticize the President I will, until then I guess I'll be "drinking the Kool-Aid". :-)

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 6/08/2009
- jones I'm a Fan of jones 19 fans permalink
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We have enemies out there bent on destroying the USA by various means. Al Queda, the Taliban, North Korean missiles.....Wall Street.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 6/08/2009
- frontman9000 I'm a Fan of frontman9000 8 fans permalink

Yes, Al-Qaida is bent on destroying us but they also know that the only chance they have of doing that is by destroying us economically. That is why they want us to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan. We gave them a big, fat X-mas present when we invaded Iraq. They will do everything in their power to keep us there. If you think throwing large wads of $$$ into military spending is the answer, you are playing into their hands.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 6/08/2009
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There will be a reckoning in the end. Allowing the criminals to restructure their enterprises again this time will not work, as the system is irretrievably broken. An argument can be made that allowing Wall Street to resurrect itself at public expense may in fact be the undoing of our economy, ... as the value of everything will come into question as the "trash" Wall Street created from thin air resurfaces as "toxis assets" redistributed. In the end, Wall Street makes nothing, ... no product, nothing of value, only fees derived from churning the investments of others.

I take strong exception to the Big 3 automakers manner of business over the last thirty years, but at least they made something, ... and employed workers who created value. Wall Street does neither!

Geithner, Summers, Paulson and Bernanke are rowing in the wrong direction, folks!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 6/08/2009
- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 145 fans permalink
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I agree, but also CONGRESS is so guilty of helping to create this mess, and they're a big giant obstacle to fixing it.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 6/08/2009

Interesting article. I'll have to pick up his book.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 6/08/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 686 fans permalink
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I actually watched the entire interview on GPS. What was most interesting is his acknowledgment, "But even if proper regulation is brought to bear on Wall Street, Lewis remains pessimistic. As "a natural cynic," he adds that really smart people in positions of privilege will find ways to get around the new rules."

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 6/08/2009
- buzzy I'm a Fan of buzzy permalink
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I thought I voted for Obama...Got Hillary instead..Voters can't win.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 6/08/2009

No. No. Hillary has been wisely relegated to the sidelines. Her job has been very much marginalized by her diminished role in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan -- the limelight areas.

Hillary loves to be in the limelight. It's just a matter of time before her true personality overrides her current facade.

Her body language when she is in the presence of President Obama says it all.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 6/08/2009
- Wood I'm a Fan of Wood 3 fans permalink

So, you're not the only one who notices her body language, eh? ;)

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 6/08/2009
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