Obama Could Be Handed First Legislative Defeat Due To Anti-War Liberals

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First Posted: 06- 7-09 09:12 PM   |   Updated: 06- 7-09 09:55 PM

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President Obama, who has suffered relatively few setbacks in the Democratic-controlled Congress, has allowed one key administration bill -- the $96.7 billion supplemental appropriation for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars (HR 2346) -- to become a Christmas tree for other controversial "must-pass" provisions, including $108 billion for the International Monetary Fund and language keeping detainee torture photos secret.

The emergence of opposition from left and right to the expanded legislation has inspired anti-war forces to try to hand Obama his first major defeat.

In one of the ironies of the legislative process, the threat of Republicans to vote en masse against the measure has empowered the liberal wing of the House Democratic caucus, giving it potential veto power over the legislation.

A number of war critics in the blogosphere including Jane Hamsher at firedoglake.com ; buhdydharma on Dailykos.com; and Jason Rosenbaum at theseminel.com, think there is a chance to actually defeat the war-funding bill.

Other anti-war advocates in Congress privately warn that they are likely to be outmaneuvered, and that many in their ranks are not willing to deal Obama a major legislative defeat.

The legislation itself has had a short and volatile history. In the first major blow to the President, majorities in both the House and Senate last month used the bill to voice adamant opposition to plans to close the notorious Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp, "Gitmo" or Guantanamo for short, by cutting the money needed to pay for the costs of closure. The action denied Obama the ability to fulfill one of his core campaign promises.

The measure appeared headed to the President's desk for signature after it was passed by the House, 368 to 60, on May 14, with only 51 Democrats and nine Republicans voting 'no', and sent to the Senate

In late May, however, the Senate added two separate provisions, both of which have provoked a firestorm of opposition in the House. The House leadership had planned a vote on the measure last Friday, June 5, but pulled the bill when it became clear that it could be defeated.

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The first new and controversial provision would authorizes $108 billion in U.S.-backed loans to be distributed by the International Monetary Fund. This money is a high priority for the President, who made the loan commitment at the April 2 Group of 20 "G-20" meeting in London -- attended by leaders of major industrialized and developing economies -- in an attempt to demonstrate U.S. support for countries struggling to stay financially afloat in the global recession.

House Republican leaders, fully aware that rejection of the IMF money would be a major setback for Obama, are calling on all GOP members to oppose the measure if it includes the IMF money.

House Republican Leader John Boehner (Ohio) told colleagues: "Just think about this a moment. We're going to provide the International Monetary Fund $108 billion that we don't have. So we're going to borrow $108 billion from the Chinese, we're going to give it to the IMF, and we're going to expect our kids and grandkids to pay for it. Americans aren't buying this. And I tell you what: Republicans in the House aren't going to buy it, either."

Further complicating the IMF issue is the emergence of a block of 41 House Democrats led by Rep. Maxine Waters (Calif.) who wrote a May 21 letter to top Democrats on the Appropriations Committee seeking changes in the IMF sections of the bill which would require the IMF a) to back off from certain austerity requirements imposed on poor countries; b) to provide more access and transparency in the loan process; and c) to use $5 billion for grants and debt relief instead of for loans. It is not clear how many of these 41 House Democrats are prepared to vote against the legislation which has not been changed to accommodate their demands.

The problems don't stop there.

The Senate, with the backing of the Obama administration, has also added an amendment that would allow the administration to keep secret photographs of U.S. torture and mistreatment of detainees and prisoners, allowing the Department of Defense to exempt such photos from provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), who sponsored the Detainee Photographic Records Protection Act, said the language specifically addresses a FOIA suit filed by the ACLU for the pictures: the Lieberman amendment will "authorize the Secretary of Defense, after consultation with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, to certify to the President that the disclosure of photographs like the ones at issue in the ACLU lawsuit would endanger the lives of our citizens or members of the Armed Forces or civilian employees of the United States government deployed abroad. The certification would last five year and could be renewed by the Secretary of Defense if the threat to American personnel continues."

The result is that HR 2346 -- combining the Iraq-Afghan war supplemental with the IMF loan money and with the detainee-photos secrecy provisions -- now faces four separate sources of opposition: First, all 178 Republican members; Second, liberal/progressive Democrats critical of the forced austerity policies of the IMF; Third, the 51 Democrats and 9 Republicans who voted against the Afghan-Iraq supplemental on May 14, before the Senate made its additions; and Fourth, members, mostly Democrats, adamantly opposed to the FOIA photo provisions.

To be certain of passage, the administration and House Democratic leaders need to be sure of 218 votes, and, without major surgery to the legislation, prospects of achieving that goal are currently dim.

According to Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chair of the House Financial Services Committee, there are two choices available to those seeking passage of the war supplemental: take out the IMF funding, or take out the anti-FOIA Lieberman amendment: "You can have the war and the IMF, or the war and the pictures," Frank told Jane Hamsher.

Frank, an anti-war Democrat who opposed the war supplemental on May 14, strongly supports the IMF provisions and will back the measure if the IMF funding stays in. He is strongly opposed, however, to the FOIA amendment, and said he has warned the Obama administration that there are so many House members opposed to the Lieberman provision that "they have no chance of passing this if the pictures are in it... There are many Democrats who are very upset about that."

If the administration and House leadership adopt the Frank strategy and eliminate the Lieberman FOIA amendment, they will still face a major hurdle.

Keeping the IMF provision in raises the likelihood that all the votes for the measure will have to be provided by Democrats. There are 256 Democrats, meaning that proponents of the bill can only afford to lose 38 Democratic votes. A total of 51 Democrats, however, voted against the measure on May 14, and another 18 voiced concerns about the practices of the IMF, for a total of 69 potential no votes -- 31 of whom would have to be persuaded to vote yes. In addition, there is the danger for the administration that some members of the Democratic Blue Dog Coalition - members representing conservative swing districts - may feel under pressure to vote no because of local opposition to foreign aid spending and to the IMF.

Some opponents of the war, including Frank and George Miller (D-Calif.) have indicated that they are prepared to support the administration and to back the bill.

The Democratic whip operation will be frantically counting Democratic votes this week to see what changes, if any, can produce a majority. One factor working in Obama's favor is that many of the critics of war spending are members of the Congressional Black Caucus and they are likely to be reluctant to hand Obama a serious defeat at this early stage of his presidency.

Conversely, if that strategy for getting to a majority fails, the administration will be tempted to drop the IMF money to get at least 140 Republican House votes. Despite their desire to embarrass the president, House Republicans, without the excuse of the IMF money, would be under intense pressure to vote for a bill providing money for American troops under fire in Afghanistan and Iraq.

A key Senate aide noted that the measure will pass in one form or another "only with great difficulty. Once Obama gets back [from overseas] he may need to be the closer and seal the deal." Supporters of the bill "lose Democratic votes on the money for Afghanistan and sure as hell won't pick up Republican votes because of the IMF money, and if this language relating to
detainee photo's isn't stripped out, they may lose a handful of more Democratic votes as well."

President Obama, who has suffered relatively few setbacks in the Democratic-controlled Congress, has allowed one key administration bill -- the $96.7 billion supplemental appropriation for the Iraq an...
President Obama, who has suffered relatively few setbacks in the Democratic-controlled Congress, has allowed one key administration bill -- the $96.7 billion supplemental appropriation for the Iraq an...
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Flight 447 was shot down and obama is doing nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 06/09/2009
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Hasn't the photo prohibition been stripped from the bill already?

Also, isn't the shut down of funding for the closing Guantanamo the first legislative defeat? And a thundering one it was,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 06/09/2009
- Kingstone I'm a Fan of Kingstone 2 fans permalink

No more money and no more wars Pres. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 06/08/2009

"Other anti-war advocates in Congress privately warn that they are likely to be outmaneuvered, and that many in their ranks are not willing to deal Obama a major legislative defeat."

Why is it that a vote is always some sort of political leveraging system instead of a vote that best represents the people of the state the people who appointed them? This is the core problem with government on all levels. They are not their to represent us, they are there first for themselves, second for their parties, then come lobbyists and a few other things and somewhere around # 10 on the list is us, the voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 06/08/2009
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There is way too much lumped in together; I want Obama to succeed but this one needs some rework.. Re-thinking something and not simply rubber-stampoing is a good thing for the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/08/2009

firedoglake is saying call your congressmen to vote no on this bill.

Rahm Emmanuel is pushing it. It contains money to continue the war in Afghanistan and Iraq

100 billion to bail out banks in Europe

an ammendment to block the release of detainee torture photos

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/08/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 54 fans permalink

we dont have 90 billion to fund war

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 06/08/2009
- Golfer59 I'm a Fan of Golfer59 10 fans permalink
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Note to democrats in congress. It's crap like this that loses elections. ENOUGH with the bull_ _ _ _!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 06/08/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 197 fans permalink

Agreed. Rolling out a big steaming pile like this and saying "This is the best we can do!" is a pretty good argument to not let you do it any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 06/08/2009
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 24 fans permalink

Hope the House Group of 41 successfully derails this bill. It will deliver a well deserved slap in the face to Obama & his team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/08/2009
- slowtono I'm a Fan of slowtono 5 fans permalink

It's not the war it's the IMF that is the political nightmare. We real Americans are not going to just sell America into the slave market with the IMF. And Congress knows the very word of IMF is becoming the death march of votes. There really are a lot of commies in the USA today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/08/2009
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Commies?

Are you living in a "Leave it to Beaver" alternative reality?

They are CAPITALISTS not commies.

Sheesh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 06/08/2009
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Actually they're POPULISTS sick of getting screwed by an unregulated, greedy captalist system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/08/2009
- chedar I'm a Fan of chedar 2 fans permalink

This is nonsense. Obama will get all the money he wants to escalate the wars, there is no need for panic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 06/08/2009
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If Obama gets all the war-escalation money he wants, that IS a reason for panic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 06/08/2009
- ElsaIndy I'm a Fan of ElsaIndy 17 fans permalink

Everything should be re-written up separately so they can be voted on separately. Until then defeat everything. Stop playing games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 06/08/2009
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Nope, defeat everything, roadblock everything, is the Republican strategy. We don't want to play into their hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 06/08/2009
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Then stop producing legislation that deserves roadblocks and defeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 06/08/2009
- GeorgeP922 I'm a Fan of GeorgeP922 108 fans permalink
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This is why I love our movement.

Not the DNC persea, but the progressive movement.

We don't work for Obama, he works for us. For too long we have let Bush brainwash us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 06/08/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 179 fans permalink
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Good...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 06/08/2009
- stylenease I'm a Fan of stylenease 18 fans permalink
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I am an Obama supporter, but my support has become much more tepid since he was elected. I think he deserves to have his A$$ handed back to him, and understand it is because he has drifted so far from his original promises. When the base of his own party starts to pull the rug out from under his waffeling on key issues, them maybe he will think twice about making promises he has no real intention of keeping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 06/08/2009
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Are you new to this?
Some Democrats siding against Obama is hardly having the rug pulled out from under him. As for breaking promises, name one. He's held pretty close to his positions and if he were to shift positions based on new information or sentiment, so what?
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
- RW Emerson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 06/08/2009

He promised to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Not only hasn't he repealed it, but he hasn't halted any prosecution of gays in the military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 06/08/2009
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 42 fans permalink
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You are an opportunist supporter

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 06/08/2009
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 102 fans permalink

And maybe you a blind one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 06/08/2009
- usma84 I'm a Fan of usma84 5 fans permalink
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"I am an Obama supporter"

Nah, an Obama supporter would allow for more than 5 1/2 months of office starting with the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression to turn on him.

Our President just shifted an election in the Middle East (Lebanon) away from extremists with one speech plus a jobs report that is 50% better than the previous month, credit markets that are unfrozen, a stronger and more competitive GM and Chrysler for the first time in over 30 years, a plan to remove all troops from Iraq, a ban on lobbyists lobbying the White House, an shrinking GOP and growing pluralism in the Democratic party such that all points of view are now discussed, a national health care plan under discussion to stop the next financial cataclysm of companies leaving the US en masse because of the huge costs of employer provided healthcare, stimulus money rushing from the government into the economy more creating jobs, and I'm just getting started.

Rather than "waffling" historians will reflect on the *incredible* amount of things accomplished starting from Zero in *less than six months* and marvel that this could even be done by *anyone*.

A supporter would actually be looking around and marveling at just how much change this man has brought in such a short time and feel very confident that he isn't going to let up, but rather is moving methodically one by one addressing each of the greatest issues of our time.

"Supporter?" phoey!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 06/08/2009
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

I agree. These so-called Obama supporters are nothing but TROLLS, who think we are stupid enough to fall for their I was an Obama supporter but....."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/08/2009
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Is there a litmus test for Obama supporters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 06/08/2009
- Dbos I'm a Fan of Dbos 28 fans permalink

Right on friend. "Who they gona vote for Ghost Busters".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/09/2009
- spinmas I'm a Fan of spinmas 3 fans permalink

I agree but any IMF money is juts money and resources we have stolen from third world countries anyway..the trick is to keep it from being stolen by dictators and thugs in those countries and skimmed by IMF workers!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 06/08/2009
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