Evidence Suggests Obama's Speech Already Undercutting Extremists

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KARIN LAUB | June 7, 2009 03:57 PM EST | AP

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U.S. President Barack Obama, center, tours the Sultan Hassan Mosque along with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, behind center, in Cairo, Egypt, Thursday, June 4, 2009. At left is Iman Abdel Fateh and right is Dr. Zahi Hawass. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

RAMALLAH, West Bank — From Lebanese guerrillas to Saudi preachers, Islamic extremists have warned followers not to be taken in by President Barack Obama's conciliatory words _ a sign that some may be nervous about losing support if animosity toward the U.S. fades.

But even moderates warn Obama will have to quickly follow his call for a new relationship with the Islamic world with bold actions to prevent a disappointed backlash.

In his speech in Cairo Thursday, Obama listed confronting "violent extremism" as the top priority in addressing tensions between the U.S. and Muslims. He urged the Islamic world to reject radical ideologies and promised to work aggressively to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He also said the U.S. does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement in the West Bank and endorsed a Palestinian state.

There are already some indications his words are having the desired effect of undercutting extremists. A militant leader in Egypt called on the Taliban to respond positively to Obama's gestures, and Hamas militants in Gaza say they are ready "to build on this speech."

Obama may have managed to "plant the seed of doubt in some minds," said Robert Malley, senior analyst at the International Crisis Group think tank. "There was enough ... that represented openings for those who wanted openings."

Yet Obama's eloquent promises were seen as only a small step toward halting the region's drift toward militancy, accelerated in recent years by the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and Washington's perceived pro-Israel bias.

He will be most closely watched on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, particularly his push to get Israel to comply with a settlement freeze. That is something no U.S. administration before him has accomplished.

"Extremists will only be disarmed when the U.S. takes a more neutral stand on Israel," said Abdel Wahab al-Qasab, a Qatar-based analyst.

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Obama has so far followed the Bush administration's policy of not talking directly to Hamas, which the U.S. regards as a terrorist organization. But in his remarks in Cairo, he seemed to suggest some basis for believing that Palestinian militants who rule Gaza might be drawn into the peace process.

Obama's Mideast envoy George Mitchell is coming to the region this week to push the president's agenda with Israelis and Palestinians. He is tentatively scheduled to stop in Syria, where Hamas is headquartered. But a State Department spokesman said Mitchell has no plans to talk to Hamas.

Obama's message also contained an assurance that U.S. troops in Afghanistan fighting al-Qaida and the Taliban won't stay longer than absolutely necessary. That too may have resonated with militants in that region, said Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based analyst and author of a book on the Taliban.

"The extremists used to lie that the U.S. wants military bases in this region," he said.

Essam Derbala, a leader of one of Egypt's largest militant groups, al-Gamaa al-Islamiyya Al-Qaida, told an Egyptian newspaper over the weekend that the Taliban should reciprocate by announcing they will no longer target Americans. That would ensure U.S. troops will eventually leave the region, he said.

Still, many extremists remain wary of the U.S outreach.

Two influential fundamentalist groups, Lebanon's Iranian-backed Hezbollah and Egypt's opposition Muslim Brotherhood, as well as a Saudi preacher, accused Obama of being deceptive. They said he offered soft words to hide unchanged anti-Muslim positions. But that could indicate their nervousness that Obama's strategy could undercut support for militancy.

This week's elections in Lebanon and Iran could give an early indication of sentiments in the region.

In Lebanon, Shiite militant group Hezbollah and its allies tried to unseat a pro-Western coalition in a vote on Sunday. In Iran's June 12 vote, hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is facing a pro-reform challenger likely to take a less confrontational approach with the U.S. if elected.

But what many in the Muslim world will be waiting to see is whether Obama delivers on expectations of a tougher U.S. stance toward Israel.

"If the Israelis continue with settlement activity and defiance and President Obama does nothing, the repercussions will be major," said Saeb Erekat, an aide to Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. "We're at a crossroads."

While seemingly tougher on Israel than his predecessor George W. Bush, Obama has not said what, if any, action would take if Israel defies him on settlements. He also has made clear that he is not dramatically revising the fundamentals of past U.S. policy.

Like Bush, he remains committed to Israel's security, is banking on the unpopular Abbas and refuses to talk to Abbas' rival, Hamas, unless the Islamic militant group recognizes Israel and renounces violence.

Despite disappointment that the U.S. position had not shifted more dramatically, Hamas leaders praised Obama's shift in tone. Hamas is eager to win international acceptance of its rule in Gaza, and has gone out of its way to sound pragmatic.

"We think we can build on this speech," Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said Saturday. "We can take positive things from the speech to open communications with Obama and the U.S. administration."

In the end, many Muslims were heartened by Obama's speech because they saw it as a significant change in the tone of discourse with Muslims. They noted he did not use the word "terrorism" or "terrorist" once in the 55-minute address _ words that many thought had been devalued under the Bush administration and too often equated with Muslims.

They also heard a more respectful U.S. leader who quoted from the Quran, or Islamic holy book, greeted them in Arabic, and removed his shoes when he toured a Cairo mosque.

One militant Web site that often carries statements from al-Qaida had unusual praise for Obama after the speech, noting his quotations from the Quran demonstrated respect for Islam and branding him the "wise enemy."

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AP reporters from across the Middle East contributed to this report.

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No body is better suited to heal the huge gaping wounds that Bush left worldwide. Thank you Barack Obama for stepping up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/08/2009
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Wow! Seem like the Right-Winged extremists and the Militant Muslim extremists are strange bedfellows.
Obama sure is making them sweat. Ha! Ha! This is better than any soap opera or reality TV I have
ever seen. Can't wait to see what happens next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 06/08/2009
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Progress in Middle East policy is the #1 reason why I contributed to and voted for Obama. So far I'm getting my money's-worth!

All it takes is a little more even-handedness vis-a-vis Israel/Palestine, and watch how terrorists lose their cachet.

My only worry is: will Israel play ball now that they know their only big ally is less resolute in its' support, or will they just get even more stubborn and go it alone in the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/08/2009
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Progress!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 06/08/2009
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where is the change???
{/sarcasm off}

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/08/2009
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Respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/08/2009
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Obama just keeps getting better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 06/08/2009
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"Extremists will only be disarmed when the U.S. takes a more neutral stand on Israel"

Why can't the Republicans understand this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 06/08/2009
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The GOP understands this quite well. Having taken us into two wars that we were promised would be part of a never ending military struggle around the world with trillions of dollars planned to go out the door in support of the Neocon New American Century in which an American military hegemony was to be created by them that would span the entire planet, why on earth would they want the very sources of violent confrontation that they used to fuel implementing their ideology to cease?

Put another way, to have constant war you need constant enemies.

If moderates works together to establish peace and prosperity around the globe with ever more increasing education and access to information, the power of extremists to strike fear in the hearts of the ignorant fades away. Have you not noticed that the only message left from people like Limbaugh, Cheney, Gingrich, etc is that we should all be afraid?

Fear is *the* principal tool of *all* extremist. Take note of who calls for us, a nation with the greatest military might in history and the largest economy in the world, to feel terrified. These people who use fear to create hate, use fear to enslave the minds of those they seek to control.

The GOP cannot survive as it currently exists in a world of peaceful nations with educated people. Neither can terrorism, for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 06/08/2009
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You are more likely to be struck by lightning than to be the victim of a terrorist attack... it's time to end the war on terror and start the war on thunderstorms... be afraid, be very afraid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 06/08/2009
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You're right--promotion of fear is one of the main tools of any individual or group that wants to gain undue control for various nefarious purposes. I was disgusted last night by watching some of the same old dinosaurs on a couple TV shows, spouting that we need to fear "the bad guys" who supposedly can destroy Western civilization with a few bombs, and so they supposedly need to be dealt with by setting aside the priorities of everyone in the world, in favor of a permanent war mentality. We're getting away from that mentality (I hope), but still the old dinosaurs will spout.

The promotion of big-time, forever-war spending also has another purpose: in conjunction with deliberate moves to collapse economies, it helps to bankrupt countries, so they have less to spend on social services, infrastructure, etc.--across the world, much or most of the spending that was going to go into these things, is being pulled back due to economic disasters that didn't have to happen. It also helps pseudo-con­servatives stay in power (for a while, anyway): someone earlier in this thread posted an enlightening link:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0

...which discusses one reason the extreme right of the Republican party deliberately starves government: "...by running up such huge deficits that Democrats would never, ever in the future be able to talk again about national health care or improving Social Security."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/08/2009
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They do understand. They also understand that they have a vested interest in keeping us girded for war. Conflict is opportunity to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/08/2009
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It's the same reason the terrorists are scared. With the U.S. less hate-able, they're losing their primary recruitment tools.

The Republicans know that if we're not afraid of anything, then they have no tools to motivate us into following their line of thinking. Keeping us afraid keeps them in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 06/08/2009
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Obama runs on hope.
The Reputhugs run on fear. Fear is necessary in the propaganda of facism

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 06/08/2009
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We cannot be so niave as to stand behind another government no matter what they do. Yet, this is what we do with Israel. We must choose our friends more carefully.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 06/08/2009
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A militant leader in Egypt called on the Taliban to respond positively to Obama's gestures, and Hamas militants in Gaza say they are ready "to build on this speech."

Yippee! I hope this statement is really true. Gives me chills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 06/08/2009
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Wow. I just learned that not wanting to pay taxes for social programs makes you a "good guy". And all these years I was believing that this just made you a selfish as shole. Consider me schooled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 06/08/2009
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I know. When Reagan built up multi-trillion deficits, that deficit spending was justified because it was in the name of national defense (Cold War). But if its in the name of health care, education, and renewable energy, then we're just a bunch of Commies, apparently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 06/08/2009
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On TV I heard a right-winger say t "when I was on food stamps and welfare nobody bailed me out"
What idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/08/2009
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Rethuglicans will hate this. Republican extremists are such idealogues, they don't want anything to work unless it's accomplished through their methods -- bombing, blustering and intimidation. Nice to know that reason, respect and cooperation actually get results. Apparently, Sesame Street was right. No wonder the Repulicans want to cut PBS funding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 06/08/2009
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Change we can believe in

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 06/08/2009
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love love love

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 06/08/2009
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i love obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 06/08/2009
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Snap out of it.

Love is in inappropriate word to describe or feeling to have for a public servant, particularly one who your only contact with is one-way -- Through the television. What you're loving is a creation of very high-priced marketers. Obama is a spokesman for a product, like a Sandals vacation, a weekend at Disneyland -- "The American Life", which for most Americans are like movie sets with nothing concrete under or behind the false fronts. Potemkin villages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 06/08/2009
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I love Obama more ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 06/08/2009
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Obama may not be able to completely change the world but he can turn it in a new direction - and since he has the ears of most of the world population he may already have.

We are lucky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 06/08/2009

Well, if this is true, this is probably one of the biggest moments in presidential history. Not that I'm surprised GWB wasn't a part of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 06/08/2009
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