EU Parliament: Conservatives Score Wins On Message Of Economic Recovery

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JILL LAWLESS | 06/ 8/09 04:58 PM | AP

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Conservative MEP for Wales Kay Swinburne, left, welcomes Conservative Party leader David Cameron, on the steps of the National Assembly for Wales in Cardiff, Monday June 8, 2009. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown faced the prospect of renewed challenges to his grip on power after his Labour Party suffered its worst electoral results in a century. The party finished third in Britain in voting for representatives to the European Parliament, behind the Conservatives, the country's main opposition party, and the Euroskeptic UK Independence Party. The results were Labour's worst in a nationwide vote since 1910.(AP Photo/Barry Batchelor-pa)

LONDON — A volatile mix of apathy, anger and economic uncertainty translated into gains for extreme-right parties in European parliamentary elections, including the first seats won by the all-white British National Party.

The party, which does not accept nonwhite members and calls for the "voluntary repatriation" of immigrants, won two of Britain's 72 seats in the European Parliament, gaining ground in economically battered areas that once were strongholds of the left-wing Labour Party.

Analysts said advances by the far right were driven in part by voters' desire to punish mainstream parties for the recession, and by concerns about burgeoning immigration within the bloc of 27 countries that stretches from Ireland to the edge of Asia. Low voter turnout of 43 percent also played a role.

As voters deserted left-wing parties in droves, center-right parties were the biggest winners in races for the 736-seat EU legislature and conservative nationalist parties made gains, as well.

Right-leaning governments came out ahead in Germany, France, Italy and Belgium, while conservative opposition parties won in Britain, Spain and Bulgaria. The parties praised the results as a continent-wide vote against governments' stimulus spending and corporate bailouts.

They pledged restrained government spending, pushing instead for bureaucracies to quickly use money they've been given for job creation projects like expanding broadband networks and upgrading gas pipelines.

Many Socialists ran campaigns that slammed center-right leaders for failing to spend enough to stimulate faltering economies, but voters did not embrace their cause.

In The Netherlands, Geert Wilders' anti-Islamic Freedom Party won 17 percent of the votes, taking four of 25 seats and becoming the country's second-largest party in the European Parliament.

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Wilders' popularity has grown in recent months as he cast himself as a champion of free speech following a Dutch court's order that he be prosecuted for hate speech. He has called Islam's holy book, the Quran, a fascist text and made a film that linked images of terrorist attacks to Quranic verses.

Austria's Freedom Party, which also campaigned on an anti-Islam platform, more than doubled its share of the vote to 13.1 percent. Hungary's Jobbik party _ an anti-immigration group that wants police to crack down on what it calls "Gypsy crime" _ won three of the country's 22 seats and almost 15 percent of the vote. The Greater Romania Party _ which is pro-religion, anti-gay and anti-Hungarian _ made surprise gains, winning almost 9 percent of the vote and taking two of Romania's 33 seats.

The British National Party's seats _ its first at a national or international level _ are a breakthrough for the party and its Cambridge University-educated leader Nick Griffin, who once called the Holocaust a hoax.

"There is a huge amount of racism in this country," Griffin said Monday. "Overwhelmingly it is directed against the indigenous British majority, which is one reason we have done so well in these elections."

The BNP took about 6.2 percent of the vote, up from 5 percent in 2004, but its biggest gains were in traditional strongholds of the governing Labour Party of Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

"There is a long-term legacy of us failing to bring people with us and deal with some of the issues that concern them," said Labour lawmaker John Cruddas.

Labour saw its share of the vote collapse to less than 16 percent, its worst national electoral performance in almost a century.

Under Griffin, the BNP has changed its image. Members have replaced Doc Marten boots and skinhead haircuts with business suits in an attempt to lose the party's thuggish image, and the party has played down its traditional hostility toward Jews. Still, it openly opposes immigration and what it calls the "Islamification" of Britain.

Roy Hunjan, 70, a retired health worker from Birmingham in central England, said he found the BNP's rise "disturbing."

"They're trying to give a very different image, but basically they're the same as the Nazi party," he said.

The election results do not shift the overall balance of power in the European Parliament, which sets collective policy for European Union countries on a wide range of issues. The increasingly powerful body makes laws on everything from climate change to human rights to cell-phone roaming charges.

"Even with seats in the European Parliament they won't be able to have a lot of influence," said Simon Usherwood of the department of politics at the University of Surrey.

"They will still be too small to have any significant impact. And one of the problems with the far right is often they have trouble working together with other groups."

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Associated Press Writers Mike Corder in The Hague, Alison Mutler in Bucharest, Pablo Gorondi in Budapest, Jan Olsen in Copenhagen, Raf Casert and Constant Brand in Brussels and Nardine Saad in London contributed to this report.

LONDON — A volatile mix of apathy, anger and economic uncertainty translated into gains for extreme-right parties in European parliamentary elections, including the first seats won by the all-wh...
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- jmundstuk I'm a Fan of jmundstuk 8 fans permalink

Fringe voting in EU elections. Sounds like the range of opinion represented here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 06/08/2009

To some extent, yes. But it's also a protest vote. Some guy was interviewed on TV yesterday about whether he'd voted BNP. "Yes", he said. "I'm fed up with all the others, so why not give them a go?" The answer, of course, lies in the BNP ideology and policies. A political party isn't just an alternative slot on a ballot paper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 06/09/2009

In my view, the British political left has made a rod for its own back, by promoting "political correctness" and accommodating minority groups to the extent that - and this is just about the only view that I share with Mr Griffin - it's getting difficult to express "Englishness" in our own home country. I'm not suggesting for a moment that minority or ethnic views shouldn't be compassionately accommodated somehow, and my comments aren't meant to be socially divisive. Quite the opposite. The question is all about how things are done.

Then there's the political arena. In the UK, "devolution" has meant that we now have a Welsh Assembly, a Scottish Parliament, and a Northern Ireland assembly at Stormont. But set against this we have a "British" Westminster national government, currently headed up by a Scot. Where in all this is the English Assembly? It's the same muddy, confused over-accommodating thinking. Perhaps the politicians fear that a devolved "English" body would become a bigoted, racist hotbed. But why should it? And given that there's a sizeable black/ethnic minority population in parts of Wales (Swansea, for example), presumably that's not an issue as far as the Welsh Assembly is concerned.

The trouble is that people have been equating "English" with "white, Christian Anglo-Saxon" for far too long. A Muslim with a Pakistani background, born in the city of Bradford, is "British" - and quite possibly "English" by birth. Or is that person still a Pakistani? There's a huge unresolved problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 06/08/2009
- lianmolive I'm a Fan of lianmolive 10 fans permalink

Political correctness can go too far. It can at times get confusing when discussing nationality verses ethnicity. Cultural differences can add to the mix or clash. It's complicated. But we humans evolve so there is hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 06/08/2009

It takes a couple of generations at least to "evolve" - which can be too long. When I was a kid in Coventry, UK, immigrants from parts of Asia were odd-looking people who dressed differently, spoke strange languages and lived in an enclave of their own - mostly in one part of the city. And politician Enoch Powell was predicting racial violence, and making his famous speech about "rivers of blood". Forty years further on, the voice on the telephone could come from any ethnic background.

This process of evolution needs a little help. The PC route and all that goes with it has largely failed, but I don't know what the alternative is, apart from treating the friendly face in the street in just the same way as you'd treat the friendly voice on the telephone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 06/09/2009
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I am happy to see that the Greens has a growing support among the voters across Europe, they will get at least 10 more seats.

And I am happy to see that Sweden (for now) isn't taking part in the Europe-wide trend of sending far-right extremist, racists and anti-democracy political parties to the European Parliament.

And its no wonder that the right-wing parties yet again takes the majority of the seats. Because they have an advantage when it comes to EU politics which doesn't involve taxes, social welfare, equality etc etc which plays a larger role in national elections instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/08/2009
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This is primarily a protest vote against Muslim immigrants.
Even in countries like Netherlands which have full gay rights the gays are voting for right wing parties and not gay rights supporters like the left parties because they are tired of being bashed by Muslims

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 06/08/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 58 fans permalink
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Right-leaning parties hailed European Parliament victories as a vote against stimulus spending and corporate bailouts, pledging to forge ahead with conservative approaches to the economic crisis.

Socialists said they would rethink their policies in the wake of heavy defeats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1191533/Right-wing-parties-sweep-power-European-Parliament-voter-turnout-plummets-record-low.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 06/08/2009
- TheBlackCat I'm a Fan of TheBlackCat 230 fans permalink
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As someone who has lived in Europe extensively, let me just remind people of this:

The "right wing" in Europe is not analagous to "the right wing" in America. If people think that gains by the right wing means that the end to universal healthcare, social programs, and a rise of Christian fundamentalism and rabit capitalism, then you don't know Europe.

For example, prior to his assasination, Pim Fortuyn was a very popular conservative politician in the Netherlands....who was openly gay, and openly talked about being sexually promiscuous gay man ALL THE TIME.

Conservatives in Europe don't campaign AGAINST socialized programs like pensions or universal healthcare or free college or welfare. They have various problems with these programs, with them being too lenient, with people too able to access welfare...but its not like they want to get rid of these programs and privitize everything, like conservatives here.

Conservativism as it exists in America doesn't really exist in most of Europe. Comparing the "right" over there and over here isn't really useful. They have some similarities...but Europe swinging "right" still leaves them to the far left of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 06/08/2009

Indeed. Why do the conservatives here not realize this? I guess awareness of other cultures has never been one of their strengths.

I wish this country could catch up to Europe, but I fear it will take decades. At least Obama has us on the right path.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 06/08/2009

Here are some policies of the European People's Party, one of the "conservative" groups to win victories today:

Increasing transparency and surveillance on financial markets.

Making Europe the market leader in green technology.

Increasing the share of renewable energy to at least 20% of the energy mix by 2020.

Europe should find a strategy to attract skilled workers from the rest of the world to make Europe’s economy more competitive, more dynamic and more knowledge driven.

...obviously this is NOTHING like American style conservatism. Europe is far beyond that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/08/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

They're waking up.
Their policies are unsustainable (socialism has proven to be anywhere it's been tried).
IN some cases, they may be too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 06/08/2009

Conservative doesn't mean in Europe what it means here. These countries still have heavy spending on social welfare projects, universal healthcare, far more funding for education, etc. American style conservatism would be abhorred by most of these politicians and by most Europeans, because they have this thing called ethics. Morality and American conservatism don't go together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 06/08/2009

Where's the morality in:
Running up debts for the next generation to pay (aka, intergenerational theft)
Confiscating one person's hard won gains to give someone else

Free markets are surely rough-n-tumble, but the record speaks for itself. Nothing has even come close thus far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 06/08/2009
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Yeah that's why they're keeping all their socialist programs like universal healthcare, free education, government pensions for retirees, government funding of the arts, and it's also why they are so crazy about President Obama and the hope, intelligence, and compassion he brings to the world.

Conservative in Europe is not what it means here. Get a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/08/2009

From the article: "Despite differences on the economic crisis, center-right and center-left parties across the continent share fundamental consensus on the need for a capitalist system with strong social welfare protections. And the center-right still favors spending more than Europe's free-market Liberal Democrats or many conservatives in the United States."

The word "conservative" in Europe doesn't have the same dreadful connotations that it does in the US. These countries are far more progressive than we are. "Conservatives" there would be moderates here, or "radical marxists" as you Republicans like to put it. The US is decades behind Europe in terms of political and cultural progress. They would never support American brand of conservatism because they've evolved past that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 06/08/2009

Ah, yes evolution. I take it you mean away from capitalism, low taxes, small government, assimilation of immigrants, etc.

Because, of course, it's crystal clear for all to behold the wonders of socialism, sky-high taxes, enouromous, nanny-state governments, and all the rest.

Can't wait until we "evolve" to that. What fun!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 06/08/2009

Hopefully you don't have to wait long. It will be nice when America joins the 21st century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/08/2009
- cf864 I'm a Fan of cf864 2 fans permalink

Then why don't you move to Europe? Europe can afford to run all these social programs because they pay next to nothing as % of GDP on defense. They have the luxury of NATO, which get's it teeth from America's military might. With their freedom protected by the American tax-payer they can afford to cruise along in la-la land drinking latte's, walking their poodles, doing drugs and having orgies.

Nowhere in this article or on this message thread did I read anyone say Europe is adopting American conservatism. However, the fact is that the political winds have shifted to the right in the EU. That's notable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 06/08/2009

But "right" does not mean what Americans refer to as the right. Europe would never even come close to going that far over the edge. They would never abandon something as basic as universal healthcare, for instance.

The old "if you don't love it leave it" mantra, eh? If you don't like the direction America is going, why don't YOU move? You're the minority opinion after all. If you'd be happy in a very conservative country with a dose of religious fundamentalism you may like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/08/2009

Also, have you ever tried a latte? They're pretty good. Americans can learn a lot from not only Europe's more ethical and progressive culture and policies, but from their taste in coffee related beverages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 06/08/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 58 fans permalink
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Libertarians ties Labour for second place in UK's European parliamentary election.
UKIP (UK Independence Party) and Labour each got 13 seats while the Conservatives polled 20.

What's interesting about UKIP is its adherence to what are, broadly, libertarian policies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Independence_Party

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 06/08/2009
- baba2nde I'm a Fan of baba2nde 15 fans permalink
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Now, if President Ahmedinejad of Iran, a staunch conservative, wins a second term, would these events signify convergence?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 06/08/2009

Hey Trolls, even Fox News knows not to try to spin this story into something it isn't! You guys should take a lesson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 06/08/2009
- blairtone I'm a Fan of blairtone 11 fans permalink

Fox News deals only with facts - it's you poor lefty windbags that are trying to find a positive spin about the Obama Effect on European elections - tough task!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 06/08/2009

Fox News and facts. Yeah! Believe what you want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 06/08/2009
- whocan I'm a Fan of whocan 3 fans permalink

The only spinning is coming from the whackjob libs ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 06/08/2009

You're the ones pretending that Europen conservatism has anything remotely to do with American conservatism. European "conservatives" still favor universal healthcare and heavy spending on social welfare projects, not to mention stronger taxes on the wealthy. Basic ethical policies that American conservatives abhor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 06/08/2009
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Good for Greece!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 06/08/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

Since the Obama administration would be considered the radical right in Europe, the Europeans have nothing to fear. The European people will go on strike, and hit the streets, at the drop of a hat. They will fight to keep strong unions and socialist programs.

If they don't ,they'll become third world countries like the US is rapidly becoming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 06/08/2009
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Far right parties in Europe advocating racial purity are a wee bit to the right of the Republican party. The British National Party for instance doesn't allow non-white members.

I wonder if there is a good political spectrum graph with both US and European parties because this argument of all of Europe is to the left of us is pretty common.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 06/08/2009
- blairtone I'm a Fan of blairtone 11 fans permalink

what a load of igno*ant leftist pap

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 06/08/2009
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People in Europe are fed up with paying for the welfare of immigrants and then being victims of crime by these same immigrants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 06/08/2009
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Okay --but why is this a RIGHT WING thing only? Lefties need to listen and respond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 06/08/2009
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Muslims are a major votebank of the Left in Europe. Why do you think Obama did not implement E Verify? Any talk of krime in Europe automatically leads to being called a ra cist
never mind that Muslim women and gays are the biggest sufferers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 06/08/2009
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Because the Muslim immigrants are a solid vote bank for the Left.
Even Labour is losing because its constituency of working class whites are being fed up of being crime victims of the immigrants

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 06/08/2009
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