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James Von Brunn Apparently Part Of Obama "Birther" Movement

First Posted: 07/11/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:25 PM ET

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Among the myriad of disturbing qualities of James Von Brunn, the 88-year-old man who shot and killed a security officer inside the Holocaust Museum on Wednesday, is his apparent belief that Barack Obama is not a citizen of the United States and therefore has no right to the presidency.

The reason it sticks out is that, even among Von Brunn's other characteristics -- including heavy streaks of anti-Semitism, disdain for the federal government, and threads of white supremacy -- being a "birther" has a modicum of political credibility.

Certainly, the vast majority of people who are skeptical of Obama's birth in the state of Hawaii tend to be harmless conspiracy theorists. And there has been no suggestion that Von Brunn's distrust of the president's citizenship solely drove him to this violent act.

"In addition to being a birther," said Abraham Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, "he also believed that Hitler didn't kill enough Jews. He had a history of anti-Semitic, hateful views."

Indeed a "birther" mindset is more a symptom of extremism than a cause.

That said, the extent to which the birther ethos has been driven into the political narrative by legitimate figures, and subsequently picked up by extremist elements, is noteworthy. In an obvious reference to questions about Obama's birthplace, Rep. Bill Posey, R-FL, has introduced a bill in the House requiring presidential candidates to file a copy of their birth certificates. Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-V.A, has joined him as a co-sponsor of that measure.

Several weeks ago, conservative reporter Lester Kinsolving, asked Robert Gibbs why the president would not "respond to the petition to requests of 400,000 American citizens by releasing a certified copy of his long-form birth certificate listing hospital?"

Outside political circles, but still within the national spotlight, the view is much more widely articulated. As late as two weeks ago, for instance, Fox News was running a headline on its website, asking: "Should Obama Release Birth Certificate? Or Is This Old News?" On Wednesday morning, moreover, talk show host Rush Limbaugh sardonically compared President Obama to God, noting that, "God does not have a birth certificate either."

Remarks like these aren't inherently violent. They can be picked up, however, by individuals who are.

"I think it is perfectly obvious that the birther movement has gained a large following on the radical right," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center. "It may have emerged form the right wing of the Republican Party. But the reality is that it has been adopted by the most noxious elements out there and certainly John Von Brunn represents that element."

Neither Posey nor Goodlatte's office returned request for comment.

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11:15 PM on 06/11/2009
I'm dismayed that Bob Goodlatte has joined the fight for this bill. Not surprised, but dismayed.
04:01 PM on 06/11/2009
As Birthers tend to want to "Question" Obamas Birth and such issues and the effects of possible falsehoods upon their lives, let us remember one thing.What is more and most significant of the Obama Period is not whether his birth was within our boundries; as it is of - pay attention here - "Just how much we may all need this man right now". Our system; whole American history , just may be at stake and exactly whom do we have to truly take over such a demised situation? Perhaps Obama may be someone we must put a great deal of hope upon or else there be none other to qualify. If anyone seriously considers Palin in that circle, then perhaps i am a genius and the rest possess a hidden "dying brain cell" infestation. Let us consider our whole position here, as Americans. "Could it be that Obama is one of or the only hope we have in our time today"? If that be the case and he be very true and sincere, then exactly why would we want to naively and childishly want to continue to ride a downward slide of our country with "UNTHOUGHT OUT" guessers, throublemakers, and party players. If these, in fact, are our true choices and situation of our lives, then i don't exactly care where he left his footprints in his life. His honesty and efforts and for what he stands are, at this time, enough for me and should be for us
03:50 PM on 06/11/2009
Obama released his birth certificate a year ago. I guess it wasn't good enough for these people... If only they realized that McCain was born in Panama.
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Dupree
Speaking Truth to Lies
11:42 AM on 06/11/2009
Part II

For anyone to hate someone merely for the color of their skin, or their philosophical difference is sick beyond the definition. It is a neurosis that will devolve into a warped sense of self. If one can not find anything about him or herself that warrants respect beyond a superficial surface measure of oneself that is based upon their DNA...they are to be pitied above all others for that says volumes to their overall self worth ...in their own eyes which ushers in the need to demoralize or dehumanize another in order to appear superior. If I have to subtract from any of my fellow human beings in order to add height to myself...I already began at a deficient. And no amount of hatred can add one iota to my measurements. It baffles my mind how anyone can cease seeing the humanity in the eyes of their fellow citizen of this world. If only we would evolve into treating one another the exact way we would want to be treated ourselves. An instruction that has yet to be heeded by the masses.
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DSOTM
Legalize it, now!
10:53 AM on 06/11/2009
Shannity is correct, we are on the verge of tyranny and the only tyrants I am fearful of are people like Von Brunn and the right wing media that is fueling this hatred.
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AlexNYC
Pumps dont work cause the vandals took the handles
10:44 AM on 06/11/2009
Rush Limbaugh is stil going on that Obama does not have a US birth certificate and is therefore not a US citizen.
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Tommygun264
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11:39 PM on 06/11/2009
He was also on the air this morning declaring that the white supremacist Von Brunn is a leftist who was acting in accordance with the anti-Israeli policies of President Obama. Only Boss Limpbagh could argue that a white supremacist is a loyal follower of an African-American man that he believes was "created by the Jews". This is not only hate speech that plays on the paranoia of mentally unbalanced potential assassins, it is pure insanity.
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
10:22 AM on 06/11/2009
In their deluded quest to concoct reality, foment paranoia, instigate discord and kowtow to their radical base, while masquerading as journalists, closet racist and morally corrupt hate mongers O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Gingrich, and Beck are seeking to deliberately ignite a race war, pitting American against American (unlike the 50s, however, the ensuing violence will be reciprocal). Using code words, Limbaugh and Gingrich spew inflammatory rhetoric designed to agitate Christian fanatics, segregationists, supremacist ideologues, and conservative malcontents and then claim no complicity when these psychopaths commit evil acts of violence aimed at restoring America’s “traditional values,” which is code for reinstituting Jim Crow and other degenerate, misogynistic, and xenophobic policies associated with pre-1960s America. Limbaugh and Senator Shelby (Alabama: another bastion of low IQ bigots) continue to question President Obama’s nationality and then cry innocent when dim-witted, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing republican misfits sully our President. O’Reilly led the ruthless, hate-filled campaign against Dr. George Tiller and then claimed no involvement when Tiller was murdered. O’Reilly is a culpable coward, and should be tried for murder. Gingrich longs for the “White Only” signs once so prevalent, and wants republicans (and deregulated big business) to remain in power at any cost, even if it means civil war. Cowardly, draft-dodging despots like Limbaugh and Hannity have no qualms about using military force to spread capitalism under the guise of democracy, as long as deferments can be selectively granted to those of acceptable persuasion (wink, wink).
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Horus45
Liberal Activist, anti-Fascist
10:16 AM on 06/11/2009
All of this hatred from Republicans began when Bill Clinton was elected and continues to this day.
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OLEGAR
When you want to fool the world, tell the truth
11:29 AM on 06/11/2009
IMHO I have to disagree. It started when the pursuit of Richard Nixon's egregious unlawfulness caught up with him and ended his stay in our White House, thus smearing many of his fellow travelers. Those "far right of center thugs", who also had a big part in the murder of John Kennedy and his brother Robert, waited in hiding till they had another duly elected POTUS from the other party, a Democrat , to hound and chase, for no matter what reason. Their vendetta would show the true colors of "Get even" politics.

Regardless, the outcome of that chase, the failed Whitewater investigation, the thinly veiled accusations of the "murder" of Vince Foster, and finally, as it fizzled down to the sleazy probe into Clinton sexual peccadilloes, the "Far Right's" vendetta has only resulted in "turning off" hundreds of thousands of citizens, lowered the respect for those we elect and has generated a feeling in many to believe that sitting presidents aren't worth "spit".
11:30 AM on 06/11/2009
And we, as a country, we as voters, our elected officials, all let us down. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair--some would say entrapment. While those officials pursuing him have all lost their elected offices, this country-our leadership- has not yet talked about the excesses and abuse of power. And they still don't!!

How much more do we have to take before the Dems strand up for our country!! This is a democracy. We did vote in this party and this platform by a large majority.
09:59 AM on 06/11/2009
FOX, Limbaugh and others NEED to tone down the rethoric!
10:13 AM on 06/11/2009
Unfortunately, their act consists of nothing but the aggressive rhetoric, partly for political reasons, partly because they pander to their audience of people looking for this exact thing.

I'd be content if just more people woke up to the fact that the constant hatespeech by the right is utterly incompatible both with Christian values *and* with actual conservative values.
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OLEGAR
When you want to fool the world, tell the truth
11:32 AM on 06/11/2009
That lowering of respect for the President of the United States has gained the attention of "nut jobs" who think, because the right wing media are spouting hate and dis-respect, it is ok to make targets of any representative of law and order. They are showing that those with whom they disagree are subject to a vigilante form of "justice".

"Hate" blogs and "rightwingnut" talk show hosts have been inciting those idiots to "riot" since the day the first black man was elected as our President. We had better worry about the thousands of nuts, crawling out from under their rocks and arming themselves to take out anyone they feel needs "taking out"! .
10:42 AM on 06/11/2009
Yea, like that will ever happen.
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Easyrollins
09:57 AM on 06/11/2009
With the steady stream of vitriol from the right, it amounts to Indoctrination
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JanSP1971
09:57 AM on 06/11/2009
As late as two weeks ago, for instance, Fox News was running a headline on its website, asking: "Should Obama Release Birth Certificate? Or Is This Old News?" On Wednesday morning, moreover, talk show host Rush Limbaugh sardonically compared President Obama to God, noting that, "God does not have a birth certificate either."


They all must be held accountable for what they spew. It's time for Rush and most of the Fixed News folks to have to answer in a court of law for what they are doing to our great country. Along with freedom of speech comes responsability for the words you out out when you are speaking to millions of people on radio, print and tv.
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dwedge
Old Millennium
09:41 AM on 06/11/2009
It is very frightning to hear what some of these people believe. While you cannot blame Limbaugh and Hannity and their ilk for the actions of a few wing-nuts, you can bet that people like this are in their choir.
09:38 AM on 06/11/2009
All the little Lee Harvey Oswalds watch Fox and listen to Rush. There's nothing harmless about them, and nothing to be said in defense of the hatemongers who spur them into violent action.
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Easyrollins
09:56 AM on 06/11/2009
With the steady stream of vitriol from the right, it amounts to Indoctrination , when you think about it, you wonder if suicide bombers get as much hate thrown at them.
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DaveyDavey
Micro-biohazard
09:17 AM on 06/11/2009
It's a free country, and people can (and do) believe whatever they want:

Bırthers
Secret Muslım
Holocaust denıers
Global warming denıers
Non-movıng earth
ID
Elvis sıghtings

CharIes Kravthammer admitted that Faux News lives in their own aIternate realıty. That's OK, lots of people do, obviously. It's all fun and games until someone gets kıIIed by a domestıc en.emy.
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DaveyDavey
Micro-biohazard
09:15 AM on 06/11/2009
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