White House Browbeats Dem Freshmen On War Money: "You'll Never Hear From Us Again"

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First Posted: 06-12-09 12:44 PM   |   Updated: 06-12-09 11:41 PM

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The White House is playing hardball with Democrats who intend to vote against the supplemental war spending bill, threatening freshmen who oppose it that they won't get help with reelection and will be cut off from the White House, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) said Friday.

"We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again," Woolsey said the White House is telling freshmen. She wouldn't say who is issuing the threats, and the White House didn't immediately return a call. [UPDATE: White House spokesman Nick Shapiro says Woolsey's charge is not true.]

Woolsey said she herself had not been pressured because the White House and leadership know she's a firm no vote. But she had heard from other members about the White House pressure.

"Nancy's working with it. It's going to be a very close vote," Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Penn.), a close ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Friday. "We don't have any Republican leeway, so far we have no Republican going to vote for it."

"We'll pass it, but it'll be a close vote. Every vote will count," Murtha said.

Woolsey and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) are both ardent opponents of the war and no friends of the IMF, which is in line for a $100 billion extension of credit in the same bill. Both pointed out that the Democratic leadership didn't bring the bill up for a vote on Friday, indicating they weren't confident they had the votes.

"It says something that this hasn't been brought up yet," Kucinich said. "I will tell you there's a good number of members holding solid. That's why this thing hasn't passed yet."

Kucinich said he's whipping the 51 Democrats who previously voted against the war funding and also whipping Democrats who have voted against the IMF in the past. He said that tremendous pressure was being exerted on the folks leaning against it.

"This is politics, you know, there's a lot of pressure put on members," he said. "But from what I can see, people are concerned that when they go back home, they're going to have to explain why they voted for the war if their constituency's opposed to it. People who have consistently opposed the war are going to have difficulty explaining why they switched."

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"There are a lot of progressives who don't like the IMF," said Woolsey. Kucinich is making the case to colleagues that the IMF loan is merely a backdoor bailout of European banks.

Woolsey, co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said she held a meeting earlier this week among Democrats opposing the package but is not actively whipping against it.

The GOP is also objecting to the inclusion of IMF money in the war bill. Kucinich recalled that the last time progressive Democrats joined with Republicans to defeat a Democratic agenda item came in 1999, when 26 Democrats sided with Republicans to block President Clinton's continuing bombing of Serbia.

"Republicans had their own agenda," recalled Kucinich.

The White House may be forced to drop the IMF provision and fight for it another day, but it's a top administration priority.

"That may happen," said Kucinich. "But as long as it's in there, it's a force that's moving in the direction of defeat of the bill."

UPDATE: The Netroots are pushing increasingly hard against the war bill and have compiled a whip count.

Jeff Muskus contributed reporting

Ryan Grim is the author of the just-released book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

The only good dems are the Progressive demos like Kucinich and Dean, which is why they are so marginalized by the MSM.

Liberals and Democrats are afraid to stand up for Kucinich and Dean, because the Bully Conservatives have brow beat you into believing they are unelectable.

Kucinich/Dean 2012!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 06/16/2009

Dems who oppose Obama on the Supplemental War Spending Bill are doing exactly the right thing. They all promised in 2007 to never sign one again UNLESS WE HAVE A FIRM DATE FOR WITHDRAWAL. This doesn't even cover the question of the 40-60,000 contractors who are in Iraq and will be "left behind" when the military leaves.

Dems should listen to their constituency calling each day requesting that they vote no.

Obama has lost his way, he now owns the Iraq and Afghanistan problems due to his failure of leadership and decision to wage a total war in Afghanistan. He is not being truthful to Us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 06/15/2009
- Roxie74 I'm a Fan of Roxie74 8 fans permalink

Say what? We undermine our sovereignty by paying fiat currency to a European governing body? Research the Founding Fathers, this is exactly the kind of crap they warned about! And you take it with a smile..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 06/14/2009

Roxie, surprise.....The US, Canada & at least 46 more countries are still controlled by England.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 06/14/2009
- leevntheus I'm a Fan of leevntheus 47 fans permalink
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All Dems AND Repubs are paid shills for Corporatist America that sell WWF tickets to the Nascar population of the hemisphere.

This election PROVES....once and for all...their is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between the parties. Just a whole bunch of two term GOOD COP, BAD COP bulls#!t Goldman Sachs uses to keep us all in line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 06/14/2009
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There's no difference between the parties? Don't make me laugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 06/14/2009

leev is right. There is very little difference any more. That's why Independents are now the majority. I'm expecting a new party to come out in the futire from the grassroots. We need to abolish lobbying. It's the same as bribery....illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 06/14/2009

i supported the present admin although i knew being a democrat obama was not going to do a lot to change the banking system, presidents and political parties who depend on funding cannot do that. basic common sense. its going to take MILLIONS of people disinvesting or redirecting their economic/social activities to do that. most people are willing or able to go that extra mile. THATS what i am disappointed with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/14/2009

Do NOT pass that bill. We have millions of people ready to vote out anyone that votes for the war. The IMF is the theft capital of the entire world. We'd like nothing better than to see it fall instead of just keep changing its name when it get exposed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/14/2009
- Roxie74 I'm a Fan of Roxie74 8 fans permalink

Yep. So glad someone is informed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/14/2009

TY. So glad to find others who are also informed & have done their research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 06/14/2009
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NO MORE WAR$!
For God's sake folks, we support 3 wars, 761 military bases and spend more $ than all nations on earth combined! And we have no health care, no or underemployment, no homes. STOP THE WARS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 06/14/2009

well said, just remember to type it out and send it exactly like that to the white house and your congressman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 06/14/2009

Didn't you watch the sequel to Legaly Blonde 2? El passes Harvard Law School, goes to DC, & tried to ge ta law passed to stop experimenting on animals. What she goes through is exactly what happens in DC, minus the comedy of course. But Sally Field's character reminds me of Nancy Pelosi.
In Tading Places, they show you exactly how easy it is to take some down & manipulate the market & Wall Street. So many movies are made on fact, but no realizes it because they add their Hollywood touch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 06/14/2009
- stylenease I'm a Fan of stylenease 18 fans permalink
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...and Mr. President, if you don't start delivering on the campaign promises you made to your core constituients, it is likely that after 2012, we won;t ever hear from you again because you won't be reelected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 06/14/2009
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Yes, he acknowledged that. Why are you repeating what Obama himself said to Obama? lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 06/14/2009
- Confused1 I'm a Fan of Confused1 3 fans permalink

This is all because Obama, in his infinite arrogance promised the International Monetary Fund $100 BILLION dollars he did not have the authority to offer. and, let's face it--we don't have. Now he wants Congress to bail him out--ergo the threats. God forbid Obama gets embarassed, but he should, he had no right to offer those funds in the first place. He needs to be taken down a step or two for oversteping his authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 06/14/2009
- felisa11 I'm a Fan of felisa11 23 fans permalink

you are confused, aren't you. read the articles, this is a fake story, it's deceitful and full of rumors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 06/14/2009
- Roxie74 I'm a Fan of Roxie74 8 fans permalink

Here we go again, Felisa doing her job of scanning the blog-sites for Obama criticizers. How many times did you do this today, 500?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 06/14/2009
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More for WAR... none for the POOR.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 06/14/2009
- Oakland I'm a Fan of Oakland 12 fans permalink
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"White House spokesman Nick Shapiro says Woolsey's charge is not true."

Obama has already proven himself to be a liar. All we have to do is look at his flip-flops. In six months, he has reneged on a long list of promises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 06/14/2009
- igorz I'm a Fan of igorz 25 fans permalink

It's not a long list, but it's longer than it should be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 06/14/2009
- felisa11 I'm a Fan of felisa11 23 fans permalink

the story is just stupid rumors, are you dense?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 06/14/2009
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He's proven himself to be a liar how? You people are breathtaking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/14/2009
- Oakland I'm a Fan of Oakland 12 fans permalink
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The freshman need to tell Obama to drop dead. When he puts some pressure on Blue Dogs, Republcians, banks and CEOS, then he can talk.

Obama is huge disappointment. He lied to everyone when he campaigning. Obama, not Kerry, is the real " flip-flop" and "he was against it before he was for it" Democrat. Obama will either deliver the change he promised, or lose to it. I voted for him in 08, but I sure as hell won't vote for him or Democrats again if they don't quit their lying and corporate pandering and put this country on to the right track.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 06/14/2009
- felisa11 I'm a Fan of felisa11 23 fans permalink

you are a huge disappointment, always pissing and moaning over heresays and deceit.

Take your own advice to the freshmen, do everyone a favor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 06/14/2009

You expected better? I didn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 06/14/2009

Maybe our generation should have a poverty party instead of tea parties. We could make some stone soup, have bands, make it fun, non violent & bring tents , organic food, non violent, but come out in droves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 06/14/2009
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C'mon, Obama's flip-flopped all over the place; from Wall Street to gay rights to health insurance to the stimulous to the Middle East to the environment, he says one thing to get elected and then does the opposite. The lobbyists buy him off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 06/14/2009
- lady49 I'm a Fan of lady49 8 fans permalink

the most effective President this nation has seen in YEARS ,and this is your mind set?
I believe that a bit of maturation is in order.
The huge problem is that the lobbyists were kicked out... and they are being forced to leave, kicking and screaming...
Then you echo their nonsense...
Please.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 06/14/2009
- igorz I'm a Fan of igorz 25 fans permalink

It is 'stimulus', by the way, and no, he didn't "lie" about that or Wall Street. And he hasn't (yet) lied about healthcare and he hasn't contradicted his campaign stance on the Middle East.

He has contradicted himself on gay rights, which is bad enough. But don't bring your Righty-Tighty lies in here stirring up trouble, Winger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 06/14/2009
- imfedup I'm a Fan of imfedup 42 fans permalink
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He will address Don't Ask - Don't Tell. When you're left with the mess he inherited, you have to prioritize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 06/14/2009
- robbep I'm a Fan of robbep 23 fans permalink

We are in two wars with countries that have not attacked us and we are spending billions of dollars to do it. I applaud the brave congressmen and women who are voting against the president on this one. In order to appear strong Obama has continued down the path of Bush and Cheney and to me this is his biggest dissapointment. Why does the US declare war and use their military to combat criminal activity? Other countries have been attacked by terrorist and they let their police handle it. We send our military and spend a trillion dollars to make sure we are not attacked again. If we are honest about it had our intelligence agencies and our former president had their sht together we cld have stopped 9/11. Now we are spending billions to fight Iraqis and the Taliban and neither of them were involved in 9/11. Al Qaeda knows they wont defeat us on a conventional battlefield so they have chosen to attack us and then bankrupt us. We are borrowing billions from the chinese to battle an idea and it does not make any sense. We will never stop people frm hating us or plotting against us and spending billions to do so is foolish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/14/2009

How did the PEACE candidate become the WAR president?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 06/13/2009

He's always been the reasonable candidate. He never said we were going to pull out within a few months...he said 16 then changed it to 18. That's one reason I voted for him...he wants to end the war in Iraq and win the war in Afghanistan. If we pull out quickly, more men will die due to lack of security.

Obama is proving himself to be a very reasonable man...he's becoming as popular with the GOP in the war dept as the democrats. It's only the far left that objects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 06/13/2009
- Jezreel I'm a Fan of Jezreel 62 fans permalink
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Co-signed. But those whose twisted logic allows them to compare Barack Obama with Bush and Cheney will never see your logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 06/14/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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And to continue my thought, I believe over zealous media people needing serious attention to a story plays a big role in these pitteous exagerated problem kind of stories. As I said, "grain of salt." There are so many monstrous problems for this President and which are taking from the lives of people, that these things are but a speck on the water,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 06/13/2009
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