Obama AMA Speech: President Urges Doctors To Back Reform

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CHARLES BABINGTON and JENNIFER LOVEN | June 15, 2009 09:36 PM EST | AP

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President Barack Obama address the American Medical Association during their annual meeting in Chicago, Monday, June 15, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

CHICAGO — President Barack Obama bluntly told doctors Monday he is against their highest legislative priority _ limiting malpractice awards _ and earned a smattering of boos from an audience he was here to court for his health care overhaul plans.

Pushing anew to reshape the nation's health care delivery system and extend coverage to the millions who don't have it, Obama went before the annual meeting of the American Medical Association and took on others who take issue with parts of his plan as well.

Calling them "naysayers," "fear-mongers" and peddlers of "Trojan horse" falsehoods, Obama warned interest groups, lobbyists and others against using "fear tactics to paint any effort to achieve reform as an attempt to socialize medicine."

"There are those who will try and scuttle this opportunity no matter what," Obama said.

GOP Rep. Tom Price of Georgia _ a former orthopedic surgeon _ reacted preemptively to Obama's speech by accusing him of seeking a "government takeover" of health care. Speaking to reporters on a conference call organized by the Republican National Committee, Price said a committee that Obama's administration has established to study the effectiveness of various medical treatments would turn into a "rationing board" to overrule doctors and deny patients care.

And Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and other Republicans introduced legislation to ban the rationing of care on such a basis.

The economic stimulus legislation that passed over the winter provides funding for "comparative effectiveness research," and the GOP proposal would block the government from using the results to "deny coverage of an item or service" in a federal health care program.

Addressing the doctors in Chicago, the president said for the first time publicly that health care reform, including covering the almost 50 million Americans who have no insurance, would cost about $1 trillion over 10 years.

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"That's real money, even in Washington," he said. "But remember: That's less than we are projected to have spent on the war in Iraq. And also remember: Failing to reform our health care system in a way that genuinely reduces cost growth will cost us trillions of dollars more in lost economic growth and lower wages."

Aides had said previously that the administration wants to keep the cost around $1 trillion, while also acknowledging it might go higher.

Obama has taken steps in recent days to outline where money could be found.

He wants to cut federal payments to hospitals by about $200 billion and cut $313 billion from Medicare and Medicaid over 10 years. He also is proposing a $635 billion in tax increases and spending cuts in the health care system as a "down payment" for his plan.

The president traveled to Chicago to talk to the 250,000-physician group in hopes of persuading doctors not to fight him on reform. The nation's doctors, like many other groups, are divided over the president's proposals. Many are skeptical of his plan to create government-sponsored insurance as an option alongside private coverage.

They also want limits on jury awards in medical malpractice lawsuits _ caps that Democrats, including Obama, have long opposed and Republicans led by former President George W. Bush long pushed for.

Obama drew hearty applause with a focus on the particular concerns of the medical profession: telling them any system that relies on them "to be bean-counters and paper-pushers" is out of whack and that his push to investigate best-practices and eliminate unnecessary procedures "is not about dictating what kind of care should be provided."

"I need your help, doctors," he said. "To most Americans, you are the health care system. The fact is, Americans _ and I include myself, Michelle, and our kids in this _ we just do what you tell us to do."

But the malpractice issue is the most provocative with this audience, which chafes at the heavy expense of malpractice insurance.

Obama started by sympathizing with doctors "who feel like they are constantly looking over their shoulder for fear of lawsuits" and said he recognizes any health overhaul will be hard to accomplish without changing that. The crowd burst into loud support.

"Don't get too excited yet. ... Just hold onto your horses here, guys," Obama said as he prepared to deliver what he knew would be disappointing news.

"I want to be honest with you. I'm not advocating caps on malpractice awards," the president said, greeted by a smattering of boos, a remarkable public response to a popular president accustomed to cheering audiences.

He added, without offering specifics, that "excessive defensive medicine" that is conducted out of fear of lawsuits and that increases health costs should be curbed.

Though he offered no support for limiting lawsuits, Obama raised the antennae of trial lawyers' groups just by mentioning the issue.

The Center for Justice and Democracy, which says it advocates for injured consumers, attorneys and others, released a letter to Obama signed by 64 survivors of medical malpractice saying they were "extremely concerned that the rights of medical malpractice patients may be stripped away as part of your national health care proposal."

"The notion that 'defensive medicine' is leading to higher health care costs is not supported by empirical data or academic literature," Les Weisbrod, president of the American Association for Justice, the main lobby for trial lawyers.

Obama co-sponsored legislation with Hillary Rodham Clinton when both were in the Senate in 2005 that would have created a program to allow patients to learn of medical errors and establish negotiated compensation with the offer of an apology.

The president directly took on criticism from former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, though not by name. On Sunday, Romney, widely expected to consider another run at the White House in 2012, called Obama's support for public insurance a "Trojan horse" to create a single-payer system like Britain's.

"When you hear the naysayers claim that I'm trying to bring about government-run health care, know this: They are not telling the truth," Obama said.

The president repeated that he is "open" to a mandate requiring all Americans to have health insurance. But he said that any plan must address the rising costs of a system he called a "ticking time bomb" for the federal budget.

"A big part of what led General Motors and Chrysler into trouble," he said, "were the huge costs they racked up providing health care for their workers _ costs that made them less profitable and less competitive with automakers around the world."

"If we do not fix our health care system," Obama said, "America may go the way of GM _ paying more, getting less, and going broke."

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Jennifer Loven reported from Washington. AP Writer Erica Werner contributed from Washington.

CHICAGO — President Barack Obama bluntly told doctors Monday he is against their highest legislative priority _ limiting malpractice awards _ and earned a smattering of boos from an audience he ...
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- socalgal38 I'm a Fan of socalgal38 48 fans permalink
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Congressional Progressive Caucus faces a choice. That choice is whether Members should maintain their unflinching support for single-payer, or to accede to intense political pressure to support the plan currently being developed in Congress under the direction of President Obama: a mandate for Americans to purchase an insurance plan from a massive new regulatory “exchange,” with one plan potentially being a “public option.”
The difference between these choices could not be more stark: single-payer has at its core the elimination of U.S.-style private insurance, using huge administrative savings and inherent cost control mechanisms to provide comprehensive, sustainable universal coverage.
The “public option” preserves all of the systemic defects inherent in reliance on a patchwork of private insurance companies to finance health care, a system which has been a miserable failure both in providing health coverage and controlling costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 06/16/2009
- socalgal38 I'm a Fan of socalgal38 48 fans permalink
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Sounds like President Obama sold out the American People to the insurance people. What can we expect extortion pays very well in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 06/16/2009
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As one of the 47 million Americans shut out of affordable healthcare, IMHO your entire stated approach to "healthcare reform" will only serve the profit margins of the insurance industry racketeers.

Mr. President, would you like to know why I am shut out of healthcare altogether?

I'm "not profitable enough" according to the nice Blue Shield/Blue Cross broker (off the record of course). I am self-employed, have degenerative arthritis, and a seronegative inflammatory condition. I have to pay for *everything* out of pocket, from simple check-ups to prescriptions to hospitalization, and frequently at higher costs than those who have insurance, as if in punishment for daring to be among the 47 million uninsured!

G.B. Shaw stated so simply and concisely, "Capitalism has no place in medicine."

As one of the 47 million Americans kicked to the curb by the current corporate racket that passes for healthcare in this country, I couldn't agree with him more.

I also agree with President Thomas Jefferson regarding the corporations and their minions who currently make the decisions regarding the healthcare coverage of Americans:

"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

Corporatism IMHO is just tyranny imposed upon We The People by other means. I respectfully demand you stop enabling the tyrannical aristocracy of the moneyed corporations.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 06/15/2009
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 85 fans permalink

I challenge anyone out there to come up with an article from the Tribune on Bush's travel expenses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 06/15/2009

Why are we supposed to care how much this cost? Didn't all those vacations George Bush took over 8 years cost us far more? Especially that one in August 2000, when he went home to cut brush rather than deal with a specific threat to this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/15/2009

Yes and wasn't that just posturing for the media so he seemed Reaganesque? We paid for that PR photo op stunt in more ways than one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 06/15/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

Ask any doctor or med student why they went into medicine. Answer: Money!

Lots and lots of money and that's one of the reasons why America can't afford it's health care system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 06/15/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

Not all of them but too many certainly. And sadly, too many who wanted to practice medicine to heal people couldn't because they couldn't afford the schools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/15/2009
- AGarcia I'm a Fan of AGarcia 14 fans permalink

We really need single payer at the table. June 25th let's let them know we meant it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/15/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 149 fans permalink

Single payer is the whole ball of wax. Everything else is "how we're going to fail this time".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 06/15/2009

There are arguments against health care reform in this country by citing the unequal care different areas would receive. Rural areas and inner cities wouldn't have as good doctors. To those I say that I would be thrilled to have any coverage and will educate myself to assure that whatever doctors are available to me will give me the care that I need.
Single payer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 06/15/2009
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 77 fans permalink
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"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, described a government plan as a nonstarter, saying there are a whole lot of other things we can agree to do on a bipartisan basis that will dramatically improve our system." ???

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!

Mitch McConnell will NEVER participate in a bipartisan effort for health care or anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 06/15/2009
- 123dee I'm a Fan of 123dee 15 fans permalink

I guess we are unaware that there is a disclaimer in the Hippocratic Oath, which states, I agree to this oath as long as the price is right.

Judging from the people I know, the vast majority of them do not require routine doctors’ care or meds for the first 3/4 of their life. It is in that last 1/4 of life, when more doctor visits and medication is required. It is our government taking care of them, through SSI and Medicare.

All the years of not making any insurance claims when they had a private health insurance plan because they were healthy and didn't need too, is now irrelevant.

Insurance companies have made enough profits off of the healthy in their first 3/4 of their lives. Now is the time for us to invest into a public plan for the well being of all citizens, health wise and financially.

I know in the last 10 years or so, long term health care became an option on private insurance plans, but who can afford them. A friend of mine, premiums for Horizon Blue (Blue Cross) here in New Jersey will be $600.00 in July single HMO plan no frills. Crazy right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 06/15/2009
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 77 fans permalink
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Let's call it the Hypocrites' Oath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 06/15/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 117 fans permalink
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 06/15/2009
- roooth I'm a Fan of roooth 32 fans permalink

WTF????? Huffpo says Obama "confronted" the AMA?

If someone didn't actually watch the speech, they might get an impression that has little to do with reality.

Obama's speech was interrupted every few seconds by a great deal of applause and cheering. Didn't sound like the doctors felt very confronted, it sounded like the doctors liked what he was saying.

But then, immediately after the speech, CNN's anchor declared that Obama was forcing a "bitter pill" on the AMA - a line she obviously already had prepared, regardless of what Obama said or how the doctors reacted.

MSNBC immediately had an MSNBC doctor on who was critical of any reform to the system at all, followed by - Joe Lieberman. How does this constitute balanced reporting?

Is this how the media mouthpieces, (all of whom probably have health coverage), are going to report on health reform?

I need a special kind of health coverage because this kind of media manipulation MAKES ME SICK!!!

I think every media mouthpiece should be asked up front if they have health insurance before they get to give their opinion on why the rest of us don't need - or deserve - coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 06/15/2009
- TheBaffler I'm a Fan of TheBaffler 36 fans permalink
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And by "confronts" you mean he gives a half-hearted, mild word of chastisement before he utterly caves and does exactly what they want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 06/15/2009
- roooth I'm a Fan of roooth 32 fans permalink

Did you see the speech? The doctors were applauding and cheering throughout - they didn't seem to feel "confronted".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 06/15/2009
- TheBaffler I'm a Fan of TheBaffler 36 fans permalink
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Of course they didn't feel confronted, yet the headline on the main page misleadingly used that term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 06/15/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 117 fans permalink
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Baffler ....... will be upset no matter what Obama does .... he wants full bl0wn S.ocialsm in the US under Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 06/15/2009

You mean "comforted".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/15/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

I agree malpractice lawsuits should be reduced, but will the lawyers and their lobbies in this country allow that?

Also, doctors in the US have said they want to continue to be payed 3 to 5 times more than doctors anywhere else in the world. And to do that they will make it as hard as possible for doctors in the developing world to come an practice in the United States.

Medicine in the United States is a managed profession that is fundamentally monopolistic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 06/15/2009
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Even President Obama just equated single-payer with government run in his speech to the AMA. Single Payer is NOT government run healthcare. It is government paid insurance as opposed to private insurance. Medicine, doctors, hospitals all continue as private entities. We should use words that matter so people can truly understand what is really the issue..

Whenever anyone says the majority of people "like their healthcare" this is always a bogus statement. Most Americans are happy with their coverage - because THEY ARE COVERED. They are happy that in most cases, their employers are kicking in towards their premiums. Most of these people don't have a clue, until they are really sick and being denied some treatment, that it's not their healthcare they like - just the fact that they had it.

The question should be "If you could see your same doctor, get treatment when needed and pay less than what you are paying now for premiums and have no co-pay - would you care if the bill was paid by your insurance company or the government?" The answer would be that no one cares who pays the bill - they just want the coverage. I'm sick of the question being framed as if people equate healthcare with insurance company coverage. I wish someone would ask if they are inferring that they like their insurance company or they simply like being covered by someone. Because the answers are very different than the statement "the majority of people like their

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 06/15/2009
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 83 fans permalink

Very good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 06/15/2009
- roooth I'm a Fan of roooth 32 fans permalink

Ummm, actually, Obama differentiated between single-payer and government run, in great detail.

Obama also spent a great deal of attention on the issue covered in your last paragragh, and how the reform he is proposing will achieve the goal of lowering individual costs without transferring expenses to the taxpayers - which is where we are now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/15/2009
- bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 19 fans permalink

MOST PEOPLE i KNOW ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE. THEY ARE HAPPY THEY HAVE IT. iT COVERS LESS AND LESS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/15/2009
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 61 fans permalink
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Judging from all the many applause lines of this speech today the AMA is with Obama on the major framework of Obama's plan. Obama even addressed a public health care option with the AMA. He definitely won more support today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 06/15/2009
- roooth I'm a Fan of roooth 32 fans permalink

That's what I saw too, hard to tell from the media response, isn't it? They're already trying to make it into a war between Obama and the drs. - even Huffpo.

What the hell is up with that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 06/15/2009
- nogimmicks I'm a Fan of nogimmicks 28 fans permalink

A fraction of the current cost of the healthcare should be enough for a much better quality care for everyone. The main obstacles are the following :
* private insurance companies (need to be replaced by one small state-run agency)
* lawyers (we need to force the tort reform on them)
* big pharma (pushing expensive untested drugs instead of safe generics or prevention)
* doctors, AMA being their "union" (creating artificial barriers to competition)

Each of the above predatory groups feeds on helpless consumers, and all of them need to be mercilessly pushed out of other people's money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 06/15/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

Your first point, a single payer system won't work in the US. I grew up Canada, the wait times for procedures in this country are intolerable.

Like Obama said, those who want to keep their employee based health insurance should be allowed to keep it as well as those who can afford private insurance. Those who have no insurance should be put into a state run plan. A two tier health care system, this is how it's done in Britain.

Your second, third and fourth points are spot on. If Hillary Clinton or John McCain were president
there would be no push for the use of generic drugs because both these people were in the pockets of big Pharma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 06/15/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 214 fans permalink

Lawyers won't be the ones hurt by tort reform: the real victims of poor medical work would be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 06/15/2009
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