House Democrats "Anxious To Take On" Health Care Reform Opponents

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First Posted: 06-19-09 04:25 PM   |   Updated: 06-19-09 04:46 PM

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The Democratic Party showed on Friday what it's capable of when led by the majority of its members rather than its conservative wing. In stark contrast to Senate Democrats, who spent the week backpedaling on reform, unified House Democrats unveiled a draft health care overhaul bill jointly endorsed by three powerful committee chairmen.

Henry Waxman, Charlie Rangel and George Miller, chairs of the Energy & Commerce, Ways & Means and Education & Labor Committees, announced the result of six months of negotiations. The sight of three united committee chairmen in the turf-conscious House is a historically rare one.

Where the Senate Finance Committee's outline of a bill didn't include a public health insurance option for people to buy into, the House version includes a robust public plan that would operate nationally and compete with private insurers on a level playing field to keep them honest.

The public plan would be self-sustaining and not subsidized by the federal government, although an upfront infusion of capital would be needed. It would initially be tied to Medicare reimbursement rates, to capitalize on the existing infrastructure, but would evolve into a separate plan that paid higher rates. Participation by doctors would be voluntary.

Rangel described the public plan as "the best of Medicaid, best of Medicare, then kick it up a notch." The chairmen estimated the plan would cover 95 percent of Americans.

While the Senate has cowered from the debate over a public option in the face of Republican and conservative Democratic opposition, Rangel said he relishes the battle.

"I'm anxious to take on those people who oppose a public option," he said. He'll have public opinion on his side. A recent poll showed 3 out of 4 people want a public plan as part of health care reform. "We've got the momentum."

Waxman told the Huffington Post after the press conference that the public plan is "essential," when asked if reform was possible without it. "I think it's essential to the reform as outlined by the president and as the three congressional committees have set forth. I'm not gonna say nothing's off the table, because we have a lot of ideas on the table that many of us don't agree with. But from my point of view, I think it makes the health care system work to have competition, which means public choice for those who are seeking health coverage."

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And, said Miller, it's what the president, who was elected in a landslide, campaigned on. The draft, he said, tries to "put language to what President Obama campaigned on in front of the American people."

Conservative Democrats in the Senate, however, have sided with the insurance industry, which put out a statement against the House plan while the press conference was still going on.

"We understand. We've read all the different positions in the Senate," said Miller. "We've had discussions back and forth, but we continue to believe this is an important, important component of real health care reform."

The three committees will hold hearings on the bill next week, with the hope of bringing it to the floor the week after the July 4th recess.

Senate Democrats have been set back by higher-than-expected cost estimates that have come back from the Congressional Budget Office, although the Senate plans were submitted without the public option, which is intended to reduce costs in the long run.

The House version will be expensive. It includes an effort to close the so-called "doughnut hole" in Medicare prescription drug coverage, which would be costly but would go a long way toward obtaining the support of seniors, who are less inclined to back a public option, according to a recent poll. They already have a public plan.

Doctors, too, get a wet kiss in the plan from Democrats, a proposal to permanently fix the "sustainable growth rate" payment system. The current public reimbursement system requires doctors to continuously lobby Congress to prevent automatic rate cuts. Members of Congress fill their coffers as a result of that lobbying and have never let the threat of a rate cut take effect. So, in effect, permanently fixing it won't cost more money but the budget office, which pretends the fix won't be made each year, will count it as an expensive provision. (Got that?)

The move by the House Friday was an effort to reassert itself. "I'm only speaking for the House. We feel very good about this," Miller told HuffPost after the presser.

Waxman dismissed the Senate fumbling. "I'm not getting alarmed by the legislative process," he said. "The Senate Finance Committee can't pass a bill into law without us. We can't pass one without the Senate. And we can't, either of us, do it together without the president."

Ultimately, the final negotiations will go on in a conference committee between the two chambers, and Miller said his body hopes to take the fight there. "We hope to take it to conference committee," he said.

If the conference committee emerged with a public plan intact, it would force Senate Republicans and conservative Democrats to take a stand for or against health care reform.

"What we had today was a good start, because the three committees are not competing. They're starting off together. We're on our way," said Waxman, raising his fist as he entered an elevator. "There's no stopping us now!"

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The Democratic Party showed on Friday what it's capable of when led by the majority of its members rather than its conservative wing. In stark contrast to Senate Democrats, who spent the week backpeda...
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- morgan1 I'm a Fan of morgan1 11 fans permalink

Has anyone taken the time to really look at the men and women who are so anxious to take on the Senate? They are so old and out of touch with reality and the people who put them there, they might as well be from another planet. They do not have to be concerned with medical coverage for they have the best. The do not have to be concerned with losing their house(s) or pensions for they are owned and protected by the lobbyists and corporations they take care of. None of them will ever go for universal health care as Canada and other citizen friendly countries have done. If they did, they would cut off immediately and be out of office at the next election. These hogs are never going to do for us. They are for themselves. Do not be fooled by the talk, for that is all it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 06/22/2009

I suggest that Henry Waxman, Charlie Rangel and George Miller immediately and publicly take on the handful of conservative Democratic Senators on this most important issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 06/22/2009
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WASHINGTON, Jan 8 (Reuters) - France, Japan and Australia rated best and the United States worst in new rankings focusing on preventable deaths due to treatable conditions in 19 leading industrialized nations, researchers said on Tuesday.
This is our ranking out of 19 industrialized nations in 2008.
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN07651650

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 06/21/2009
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Everyone should read and find out whatever they can about this group: MCHR. They have this debate researched and its an eye opener. Here is a book that explains them..on amazon. I hope I can link it. Join the debate, read the reviews, spread the case for non-profit health care in the United States.
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Doctors-Medical-Committee-Struggle/dp/1596915676
If we really to be the best..and not just say we are..then we have to take this step.
People over profit...France is best and U.S. worst in preventable death rankings.
France is 1st in Health Care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 06/21/2009

That's the way to go! A single payer is the way to go! This is the time to take on the opponents of the public option. Now or never!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 06/21/2009
- MJJM I'm a Fan of MJJM 6 fans permalink

You Democrats are punks!! You should have rejected the IRAN resolution and should by your PRESIDENT!!!

Now, you can't get health care reform done. It was not the Clinton's fault, It was the gutless Democrats who failed the first time!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 06/21/2009
- valleygent I'm a Fan of valleygent 21 fans permalink

Democrats...just get the PUBLIC option DONE. Forget about a bi-partisan bill, that will never happen. The REPUBLICAN PARTY IS AGAINST HELPING THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR. The American electorate will show the remaining Republicans the door in 2010 for not being with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 06/21/2009

Millions of Americans have a low opinion of Congress, because we know that they are owned by corporations and their lobbyists. We are frustrated and angry, because we feel powerless to stand up to the monied interests that prevail.

That said, it is my opinion that there is very little difference in the two parties today. There probably are two handfuls of honest, well-meaning politicians in Congress. They are in the minority. So many others are on the take on both sides of the aisle. But, it doesn't stop there. If you look at the Whitehouses...the two Bushes, Clinton, and oh, yes...Obama's, there are broken promises, back-tracking, back room deals, and watered down legislation that favor banks, Huge pots of money...not for the needs of the people...pots of money for wealthy bankers and an endless parade of war contractors for war and more war.

I suggest to anyone reading this that they take the time to Google..."The Obama Deception," and see who is really in control of our politics. This is a two-hour video connecting the leaders of this country with The Bilberger Group, The Tri-lateral Commission, and the Council of Foreign Affairs. The people who are really in control of our puppet Whitehouse, and what they are planning. Believe it, don't believe it. At the very least, begin doing some very critical thinking about what is really going on here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 06/21/2009
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 83 fans permalink

I will be accused of cynicism, but these guys can afford to take a heroic stand because there will not be a bill unless it is cobbled between the House and the Senate. There are enough Democratic senators to side with the Republicans and keep the public option off the table. The House Democrats can then say "we tried", and it would let Obama off the hook too. Obama btw is being very wishy-washy about the whole thing. If we get a health care reform bill, it will have as much teeth as the credit card bill did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 06/21/2009
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If these guys pull it off I will send them all the money I can afford.

I will send them some just for taking this public position.

Please write them and tell them you support this effort.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 06/21/2009
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 48 fans permalink

Oh ya, how long will they stand bravely and strongly together. The dems are gutless wonders with absolutely no spines. The first hint of opposition and they will cave. Look at the Gitmo funds for closing budget did not pass....ov­erwhelming­ly the Obstructionists won. OVERWHELMINGLY. We were asking Obama to close Gitmo, he was trying and all of a sudden the NIMABYS started wailing. Well it was our illegal war, they are OUR detainees, it is OUR mess and it is OUR repsonsibility to fix. We can' t handle the responsibility. Why not do what the Germans did..dig a trench, line them up, shoot them, cover the trench, pretend it never happened. ...and pin a war medal on every gd member of Congress...and two on every chest of the party of no. We are a nation in disgrace. Do dems, stand in defiance all together....the proof will be in the pudding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 06/21/2009
- Peabodies I'm a Fan of Peabodies 16 fans permalink

Bravo, House Dems! With that kind of resolve and good ideas, YOU WILL PREVAIL!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 06/21/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 50 fans permalink

The largest donations from the Insurance Industry in 2008 went to:

Chris Dodd ,$862,056 and Mitch McConnell $400,333

Any wonders at their stance on a public health care system that would cut into the profits of Blue Cross?

Also among the top ten recipients of healthcare industry largess were Max Baucus, Susan Collins, and Harry Reid,

All voices opposing a public option in healthcare reform (go figure).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 06/21/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 50 fans permalink

A small amendment.
Dodd now says that he supports a public option, but adds

"as frustrating as it is to you and to me, I don't know if we have the votes to pass a strong public health care option."

Amazing ... We can't get it though the Senate, because we, the Senate, won't pass it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 06/21/2009
- mom2sons I'm a Fan of mom2sons 5 fans permalink

We don't know if we have the votes to re-elect you either! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 06/22/2009

Health care should not be a business period. Insurance companies are in the business to make huge profits--not about health care or quality period.....Who is getting the $$4 Trillion in debt money for Medicare? Insurance companies? Bush Medicare another failure with no plan on how to pay as you go when he started it...what another mess of Bush? Hmmm? Insurance companies why do they give out "huge bonuses" and to who for what? Fraud? No regulations? In the business to make huge profits,deny deny deny now lets over inflate, deny deny ...oh we will pay this one..deny repeat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 06/21/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 50 fans permalink

Exactly.
Look we have a health care system that AVOIDS SICK PEOPLE.
I mean, how ignorant is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 06/21/2009
- Lyr I'm a Fan of Lyr 35 fans permalink

There is nothing wrong with health care bieng a business. Doctors, nurses, medical supply companies, all need to make money. What's wrong right now is the business model has been shifted through government interferrence from one of serving people to make money, to one of denying service to people to make money.

Look at plastic surgery, the prices for operations and procedures are alot lower than one would expect. The reason for this is insurance is not involved so the business model of making money by providing a service at a competitive price is intact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 06/21/2009

If Bush Cheney would not of started their.. war of choice.. and borrowing an $$$$avalanche of massive Debt to pay for their choice war and bank greed our health care trillion would be there period...all is greed of the wealthy....all Americans are paying their massive reckless debt and failures and suffering for it....war mongers have lost of$$$$$ Trillions for their wars do they not? No problem. Bush creation of medicare another$$$$$$ failure with no plans put forth----no pay as you go for 8 years now in massive debt also....insurance over over over inflated health care cost who do we think is getting all the trillions of dollars for medicare? health care cost --deny deny deny deny inflate --oh we will pay this one, deny....worship of wealthy greed fraud etc...

Do wars feed the rich to get richer? Who gets all that money from war and massive contracts...we pay to tear now and we pay to rebuild..sick and failed leader ship...but McCain wants to do what to Iranian people in his song in campaign on the world stage and the world heard it? Wonder why the world hates us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 06/21/2009
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 50 fans permalink

The latest pork laden supplemental "defense" spending bill passed the Senate 83 to 3 and no one was at the microphone asking where the money would come from.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 06/21/2009

Absolutely right!

No one is questioning the monies, or borrowed treasure for war. Other than Kucinich, I haven't heard anyone in Congress questioning this illicit endless stream of war funding in the billions of dollars. It is going to war contractors and their lobbyists. Americans should be taking to the streets about the endless wars that are foisted upon us by a bought Congress. People, you want to see what your borrowed tax dollars are accomplishing in Afghanistan?

Please Google...Robert Greenwald's "Rethink Afghanistan: Civilian Casualities.

And the Congress and the Whitehouse tell you and me they need to protect us.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 06/21/2009
- Lyr I'm a Fan of Lyr 35 fans permalink

Ron Paul was, but he is a loony so noone listens to him right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/21/2009
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