2010 Census Will Count Same-Sex Couples In Reversal Of Bush Policy

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - 2010 Census Will Count Same-Sex Couples In Reversal Of Bush Policy stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

LISA LEFF | 06/19/09 11:03 PM | AP

I Like ItI Don’t Like It

SAN FRANCISCO — U.S. Census Bureau officials said Friday that married same-sex couples will be counted as such in the 2010 national tally, reversing an earlier decision made under the Bush administration.

Steve Jost, a spokesman for the Census Bureau, said officials already were identifying the technical changes needed to ensure the reliability of the information, but remained committed to providing an accurate tally of gay spouses.

"They will be counted, and they ought to report the way they see themselves," Jost said. "In the normal process of reports coming out after the census of 2010, I think the country will have a good data set on which to discuss this phenomenon that is evolving in this country."

Same-sex couples could not get married anywhere in the United States during the last decennial count. But last summer, when two states sanctioned gay unions, the bureau said those legal marriages would go uncounted because the federal Defense of Marriage Act prevented the federal government from recognizing them.

Since President Barack Obama took office, his administration has been under pressure from gay rights activists to take a fresh look at the issue. The White House on Friday announced that its interpretation of the act, known as DOMA, did not prohibit gathering the information. Gay marriage is now legal in six states, although the first weddings have not yet commenced in three of them.

"The president and the administration are committed to a fair and accurate count of all Americans," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. "We're in the midst of determining the best way to ensure that gay and lesbian couples are accurately counted."

Enumerating married gay couples will not require any immediate changes in the census forms, which includes boxes for the genders of people living in a household and their self-reported relationships as "husband," "wife" or "unmarried partner," according to Jost.

"This is about folks' identity," Jost said. "We are experienced in dealing with changing social phenomena and how to measure and report that, and we want to get it right."

Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, called the policy change a significant step.

"The census, I like to say, is on its face about numbers. But what the census is really about is telling the story of our country," said Carey, whose group has been among those lobbying the White House. "Many people, including people in the administration, are realizing just how important it is to make sure that (lesbian and gay) Americans are not rendered invisible."

Gary Gates, a demographer based at the University of California, Los Angeles who has been working with the bureau on the issue, said producing a reliable count of same-sex married couples is a doable, but complicated task.

One issue is that some same-sex couples in civil unions or domestic partnerships already identified themselves as husbands or wives, both in the 2000 census and in the annual American Community Survey that the bureau produces each year. So the bureau needs to figure out a way either to separate those couples from legally married couples in the next census, or to create a new designation to capture both groups.

"Thirty percent of same-sex couples in the year 2000 used the term 'husband' or 'wife,' and none of them were married," Gates said. "Granted, now we think maybe there are 35,000 who are legally married, but they are finding 10 times as many using that term."

SAN FRANCISCO — U.S. Census Bureau officials said Friday that married same-sex couples will be counted as such in the 2010 national tally, reversing an earlier decision made under the Bush admin...
SAN FRANCISCO — U.S. Census Bureau officials said Friday that married same-sex couples will be counted as such in the 2010 national tally, reversing an earlier decision made under the Bush admin...
Report Corrections
 
Comments
421
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next › Last » (6 pages total)
- chaya I'm a Fan of chaya 39 fans permalink

This is why Michelle Bachman is doing all she can to stop the Census from reporting anything but name, rank and serial number. She doesn't want Americans to know how many of us there are. Neither do her pals, the GOP and Evangelist Christians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 07/14/2009
photo

Obama deputy campaign manager abandons DOMA & DADT as priorities
http://www.americablog.com/2009/07/obama-deputy-campaign-manager-abandons.html

"After two weeks of the Obama White House reeling over the gay backlash caused by the anti-gay DOMA brief, which compared gay marriage to incest and pedophilia, we now have...

First, that the burden for doing anything pro-gay in the remaining three and a half years of the Obama administration is now shifted to Congress. Obama has no role whatsoever, and no power to influence anything, even though he's still the leader of the free world.

Second, the three big gay rights priorities that Congress should be focusing on do not even include what have organically become the community's top two priorities: repealing DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. They're not even mentioned in the Obama deputy's essay."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 07/03/2009
- ez duz it I'm a Fan of ez duz it 10 fans permalink

The new developments are interesting. Especially since it seems that the familiar political landscape is shifting. Surprisingly, some Republicans in Congress seem to be shifting toward a culturally centrist political stance and some Democrats, unsurprisingly, do not know in which direction they should set their course.

The updated Census is redesigned to include cohabitating same sex partners as well as same sex spouses who are legally married in their states. Good. No doubt, the additional data will enable elected officials at the federal, state and local levels to have a more thorough understanding of their constituency and engineer their campaign platforms and promises, accordingly.

My partner of ten years and I did not fill out the last census out of fear. Now, we both intend to stand up and be counted. Neither marriage nor civil unions for same sex couples is available in our state. Yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 06/21/2009
- stylenease I'm a Fan of stylenease 18 fans permalink
photo

"SLAP"!! You feelin' that Christians??? Mormons??? Prop 8'ers?????

It will probably take until his second terms, but gay marriage will be legal, and gay rights will be secure. I hope the spectre of that drives you all crazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 06/21/2009
- SD Indy I'm a Fan of SD Indy 23 fans permalink

That isn't really fair. Although I am an Atheist/Agnostic, you cannot make the claim that all Christians and Mormons are against marriage equality because they are not. I understand your frustration and anger at these groups of people, but just like we in the gay community don't like to be stereotyped, we too should refrain from stereotyping entire groups.

I say this as one being guilty of that stereotyping as well, but I personally working very hard to refrain from doing so. You have to remember that there are MANY religious groups that are our allies such as the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church, many sects of the Presbyterian Church, Metropolitan Community Church just to name a few.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/22/2009
photo

Stereotyping entire groups of people is never a good thing. But let's be real for a second, take religion out of the equation and I don't think there would be must debate when it comes to homosexuality. And of them all Christianity seem to harvest the most hate for our community. I don't think Stylenease is generalizing that much, there is much evidence that our community isn't accepted, mainstream, among these groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 06/22/2009
photo

For the Canadian Census, two acronyms were created years ago.
The acronyms come in handy for couples, gay or otherwise, who are living together.
POSSLQ = Person of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters
PSSSLQ = Person of Same Sex Sharing Living Quarters

It is also legal for Gays to marry in Canada. Canadians also have this really fabulous Universal Single-Payer Health Care.

The US lags behind in so many areas in the 21st Century. As I continue to read on HuffPo, I see people who are more content to peck the eyes out of a gnat than make any progress in any direction at all. The US looks more like a third world country every day. You are not just standing still, you are going in reverse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 06/21/2009

You are so right. Our system is corrupted by crooked politicians who answer only to the money interestes and the god squad. They are indeed forcing us into third world status.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 06/21/2009
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 86 fans permalink
photo

I never knew same sex couples were not included in the Census. Ridiculous. There's power in numbers and the Rethugs really don't want to know about the power of same sex couples. They'd rather keep their heads in the sand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 06/21/2009

Now it's GLBT . . . . Q? The acronym keeps getting longer doesn't it?
Maybe it should be GLBTQC.
. . . and maybe GF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 06/21/2009
- MaxInAZ I'm a Fan of MaxInAZ 4 fans permalink

Eh, back when I was an undergraduate, we were discussing calling it LGBTQIA (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersexed, and Asexual). We've gotta be the catch all for the underrepresented sexual orientations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 06/21/2009
- Disuberence I'm a Fan of Disuberence 130 fans permalink
photo

Q is "questioning" As in questioning your sexuality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 06/21/2009

UNTIL YOU WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES...
we are making headway in our movement...i think we should quiet down some and let the right wing "majority" bury themselves...we will win this some day...we need to be careful not to allow ourselves to stoop to their levels...the last thing we need is to quarrel amongst ourselves...
happy fathers day to all fathers: gay and straight!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 06/21/2009
- Neal Patel I'm a Fan of Neal Patel 5 fans permalink
photo

Are they going to be creating Gay Majority Congressional Districts. Are the Gay members of Congress going to form a Congressional Gay Caucus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 06/21/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 122 fans permalink
photo

What is your point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 06/21/2009
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 78 fans permalink
photo

That sounds like a good idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 06/21/2009
- SD Indy I'm a Fan of SD Indy 23 fans permalink

Neal, you really are behind the curve aren't you. There is already an LGBT Equality Caucus. http://lgbt.tammybaldwin.house.gov/legislation.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 06/22/2009

Lisa & Editor of Huffington Post:

I'd like to know why the majority of photo's accompanying any articles on same sex marriage etc are male.
Is this the subliminal reminder to the homophones, of what they fear most? Why not photo's with both a two women and two men as couples.

I find it more and more frustrating that homosexuality is so often painted with a ignorant fear brush, even in liberal publications.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 06/21/2009

Absolutely agree. And in this case they threw inter-racial into the mix. It really does play on people's ignorance and fear doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 06/21/2009
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 78 fans permalink
photo

There's many ways to read the photo. It can be a reference to the span in muti-racial and cultural aspects of this issue. Or an allusion to interracial marriages (that were illegal in many States in the 60's). Why you would perceive this as a negative says more about you than anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

The GLBTQ community is the largest in diversity but the smallest in number, which means that it has to appease to a wide range of people spanning across the board. I do think that we should be more diverse in the sense when it comes to our media, visual perception is one of the most understandable quality when it comes to how we are perceived. However, understand that as a minority community, sometimes including every diverse group can be cumbersome. Beyond that point I do think attempting to add a more diverse mix of background, culture, race and gender, where possible, would help to educate the masses of how diverse a community we are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/21/2009
- dm10003 I'm a Fan of dm10003 17 fans permalink
photo

i was gonna post that message a few days ago to both huffpo and beast! i hope they'll look harder for girls in love...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

Because lesbian couple photos are so 1990.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 06/21/2009
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 86 fans permalink
photo

I'm not gay, but you make a great point. I don't think it's anything other than ignorance on their part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

News Flash: No one care if you're gay or not any more. Just shut up about it - the only ones talking about this are the gays themselves. Just another manufactured crisis you silly libs like to talk up like acid rain and global warming. I thought you libs say live and let live......­..........­......to bad you're such hypocrites. Somehow the let live part only applies to you. However, you never let others live without trying to shove some wacko idea or new set of taxes down their throats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 06/21/2009
- joemondo I'm a Fan of joemondo 22 fans permalink
photo

If no one cares, you can stop discriminating, stop the hate crimes and let GLBT people live their lives with equal civil rights.

"Live and let live" never meant depriving people of civil rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

In other words "you guys shouldn't be selfish, so that I can be selfish".

Sorry, not gonna work. This is our lives, and we should be more selfish about the things that affect our lives. The fact that you don't care about our lives is a reflection on you not on us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 06/21/2009

'Libs' say equality for all - it was 'libs' who fought for civil rights, it was 'libs' who fought for women's rights, and it's 'libs' fighting for gay rights. It was even 'libs' who voted for Obama. Hopefully his admininstration can eliminate the systemic predjudice built into even the most innocuous things like the census.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/21/2009
- tnkeating I'm a Fan of tnkeating 20 fans permalink
photo

youvegot2bekidding, as I remember, and I do, all the goveners of the southern states at the time of civil rights unrest were Democrates, and they were fighting tooth and nail to keep things the way they were. Martin Luther King at the time was a registered republican, also Lincoln was a republican. The point is that it didn't matter what party you were in, you either saw racism as wrong, or you supported it. Today people either see gay as wrong or you support it. There are just as many republicans that support gay rights as democates, this is not a political issue, it is a human issue, and since the census is now controled by ACORN, I don't think there will be any systematic prejudice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 06/21/2009

People who want equal rights for all, even those of us not gay like myself, are "libs"? Not all Americans for equality are gay, you know. You talk as if only the gay community takes issue with non-equality.

Proud to be a liberal then, because it seems that liberals are what pushed to get slavery band, womens their rights, the gay community their rights.... all three groups that the Bible oppresses.

Libs then are pro-human.

The conservative way is name calling when any of these three groups ever stood up to be counted. The conservative way is to wage war, bloodshed, diminishing people until they shut up. Calling all of the inequality "american" and if anyone disagrees or if alllll else fails, yell wail and scream and call them a "lib".

Funny, when I was five, my sisters use to resort to name calling when they didn't want to hear someone and wanted them to shut up.

LOL! Keep trying though! The gay community is a minority, THAT MEANS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE PUSHING FOR EQUALITY ARE NOT GAY.

You just keep talking as though it is only the gay community asking for equality. Oh ya, your name for me then is a "lib". I almost forgot. HAHAHAHAHA­HAAAAAAAAA­. You go back to your conservative blood thirsty oppressive god now.

Run along. The younger more equal-righ­t-oriented generation will be grown up soon enough to replace you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

Did someone force you to come to these sites to type this? I think it would do us all some good to remember, that no-one truly forces anything on others.. Wait, well let me see, religious conservatives telling us that we should be a heterosexual if we want to marry and therefore nothing else is accepted. The conservative view point over a woman's right on abortion and even the conservative viewpoint on health care for all, since only the wealthy deserve it.

If you ask me, it seems that conservative extremist right-wing agenda is imposed on our lives on a daily basis and has a very negative affect on our very freedom. So it seems the hypocrisy falls on your court my friend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 06/21/2009
photo

All right, folks. LGBTS and supporterrs, The time is right. The atmosphere is ripe. The Obama administration is doing thier part, piece by piece, week by week.

Now it's our turn to do our part and show our appreciation for these moves. It's time we take to the streets, organize and show the world that we are deserving of these rights. time to mobilize and get our butts in gear and actually do something.

March

go dooor to door

Make phone calls

Show people that we can work as hard as we need to for what we want, what we need, and what we deserive

What are we watiing for??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 06/21/2009
- joemondo I'm a Fan of joemondo 22 fans permalink
photo

The most powerful think gay and lesbian people can do is come out to the people you know, if you haven't already.

There's a significant difference in support for GLBT equality between those who know they know GLBT people, and those who don't think they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 06/21/2009
photo

Precisely. Which is why we need to mobilize and humanize these general concepts into real faces and real names. Not just abstract principles. It's not enough to say "we want (this, and this, and this, it's a right. end of story"

We need to say "this is so-and-so, he or she is LGBT, and here is why he/she needs to have these rights"

Faces and names....p­ersonaliza­tion...hum­anization of the issues

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 06/21/2009

And the next most powerful thing:

Those who are not gay but who support equal rights for all speak up in favor of equality when ever they hear those telling the GLBT group they need to go away and stop whining. Whenever I hear people who aren't gay telling the gay community that they are the only ones "whining" or "gay community is being ungrateful and acting like brats", I take offense to that since I am not gay BUT I want every person to have the same rights I have because we are all humans, we are all Americans. It is the only right thing. I take it personally. Like my gay friends tell me, I take it worse than them. :)!!!

People in support of equality who aren't gay (like myself), who did things like voted for equal marriage rights, need to get involved so the homophobes can't say it is just the gay community who is annoying them. They need to start talking more and not just letting it be about the gay community fighting for themselves. If equality is important to the group of people like myself, than this is not just a gay community issue. This is an american issue.

Anyone (gay or straight) who is for equal rights needs to stand up, be heard, go door to door to promote equality and support any community our America is bent on telling is not equal in every way. It is only right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 06/21/2009
photo

Unfortunately, this will still be a difficult thing for many of our brothers and sisters (Even in this time period) that may live with ultra religious families, where coming out may mean certain destruction for them. It saddens me that the views of these religious families, perhaps will never see acceptance of our community. And so I hope that those children living in these circumstances can seek acceptance even among such terrible environments.

In the long-run all of this will damage our numbers until those that are terrified of ridicule and exile by their parents and friends that gain that acceptance they so direly need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 06/21/2009
- Andreams I'm a Fan of Andreams 6 fans permalink

Progress and lasting change is always slow but it will come and this administration is committed. Patience is difficult, especially when the goal seems so close but please, let us have patience while continuing to voice our support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 06/21/2009

Proverbial frog in the boiling pot of water. All of these concessions are nothing but conditioning America to accept gay marriage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 06/21/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

In case you missed it, the younger generation already does accept it.
These people are legally married, so why SHOULDN'T they be counted as such?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 06/21/2009
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

Yayyyyy!!! it's about time every American had equal rights!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 06/21/2009

Yup! It isn't america until we all are equal. Until then, it is lip-service to say it is a free country where we all have rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 06/21/2009
- joemondo I'm a Fan of joemondo 22 fans permalink
photo

It's always perplexing, if not laughable, to see adults stick their fingers in their ears and deny reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 06/21/2009
- dm10003 I'm a Fan of dm10003 17 fans permalink
photo


if the alternative is violence, war, or government chaos or overthrowing, i'd say it's a brilliant process.

you probably were not taught to burn, murder, or assault gays, so you've already been halfway conditioned already.

oh, and your a relic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 06/21/2009
- chaya I'm a Fan of chaya 39 fans permalink

Anthony Lema? Come on, admit you're sneaking around HuffPo, Rep. Michelle Bachman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/14/2009
- memosyne I'm a Fan of memosyne 7 fans permalink

I hope all committed LGBT couples will report themselves as married. I think it would be very important for all of us to recognize just how many people there are who are LGBT. Does any body else wonder if we should have a box for sexual orientation, (totally anonymous)? I really think that if every GLBT person reported their true sexual orientation we would find the usual estimated percentage much much too low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 06/21/2009

Gawwwwd, it sounds way to personal if there is a box for sexual orientation. I don't want graphics. I think it is sufficient to have a box that says "same-s.ex marriage". Not "what gender do you have s.ex with".

LOL! Spit my coffee out my nose on that thought. TOOOO MUCH INFORMATION.
I want equal rights for all...I support the gay community because my cause is equality for every american. Not this concept of everyone can ride on the bus, but certain groups have to sit in the back. HOWEVER, personally, a box for telling what sexual orientation a person is? I just don't want to know THAT much information, and certainly wouldn't want to be required to say that my preference is the opposite sex. It is just tooooo much information.

But, it is natural the question got brought up. I mean, this is a topic being explored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 06/21/2009
- dm10003 I'm a Fan of dm10003 17 fans permalink
photo

how long do i have to wait for people like you to grow up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 06/21/2009
- memosyne I'm a Fan of memosyne 7 fans permalink

You wouldn't have to know about individuals. It's anonymous. Just numbers. There are estimates of between 6% and 10% of all populations being gay/lesbian. I have so many gay/lesbian friends that it seems to me these estimates are too low.

I also think there are a number of individuals in heterosexual marriages who may be gay/lesbian. I would be very interested to know demographics. And since the census is supposed to count everyone, the census could give us a lot of information.

Or perhaps you are a little bit anxious that there are more LGBT folks than you would like to admit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 06/21/2009
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next › Last » (6 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect