A Ticket For Marijuana Possession In Cook County? Reduced Pot Penalty Proposed As Budget Woes Deepen

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Posted: 06-20-09 02:25 PM

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Getting caught with a small amount of marijuana would not automatically lead to arrest if a Cook County Commissioner gets her way.

An ordinance proposed this week by Commissioner Earlean Collins (D-Chicago) would allow county sheriffs to write tickets for possession of less than 30 grams of marijuana rather than automatically making arrests. It's an effort, she says, to simultaneously boost sagging county revenues and ease overcrowding at the Cook County Jail.

"I know we're going to have a deficit budget," Collins told the Huffington Post. "This ordinance would help the County generate money and reduce the jail population."

Several states and municipalities have similar legislation that effectively decriminalizes possessing small amounts of marijuana, according to Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws in Washington, D.C.

"One-third of the country, or 115 million Americans, live in places where marijuana has been effectively decriminalized," St. Pierre told the Huffington Post. "And Cook County is by far the biggest municipality in the U.S. to take a look at decriminalization without the state doing it."

States with home-rule charters, such as Illinois, allow for local or municipal governments to extend greater or lesser freedoms or privileges to its citizens if they want. Alcohol-free dry counties are a common example.

The Cannabis Possession Ordinance would apply only to arrests made by county sheriffs and in unincorporated Cook County.

A spokesman for Sheriff Tom Dart declined to comment on the proposed ordinance since it is only in committee.

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In 2008, Dart's office made 212 arrests for possession or delivery of cannabis under 30 grams.

"It's something we already do with traffic offenses," Commissioner Larry Suffredin told the Huffington Post. "The object here is if you had someone you felt was on the straight and narrow and just barely crossed the line, give them the benefit of the doubt."

Suffredin has not yet read the full legislation but said he supports it in principle.

"In general, I'm in favor of giving law enforcement options to make it easier to stop someone from getting deeper into the criminal justice system."

The ordinance, which awaits consideration in the finance committee, levies a $250 fee on first-time offenders, a $500 fee for a second offense and a $750 fee for the third strike.

Collins' proposal follows a similar ordinance passed in south Suburban Chicago Heights last December.

Chicago Heights Police Sgt. Michael Leuser said the law is a matter of practicality in cases where the amount of cannabis would only amount to a petty offense and not even a class A misdemeanor.

"The reason for that," Leuser said, "is that nine times out of 10, judges are tossing [the charges] out."

Collins said several commissioners have asked to co-sponsor the ordinance, though she declined to drop names.

A spokesman for Board President Todd Stroger declined to comment, saying Stroger had not yet looked at the ordinance.

Criminal records, including possession of even small amounts of marijuana, can disqualify students from receiving financial aid and residents from qualifying for Section 8 housing.

Nationwide, nearly nine out of 10 marijuana arrests since 1965 have been for possession only, and the vast majority of those for amounts less than an ounce, according to the FBI's 2007 Uniform Crime Report.

Marijuana is the only drug in Illinois that is a misdemeanor to possess.

Of the 1,296 arrests for marijuana possession made in Illinois in 2008, 762 -- or 59 percent -- were class C misdemeanors, which is for 2.5 grams or less, according to Illinois State Police Sgt. Juan Valenzuela.

Another 357 -- or 28 percent -- were arrested in Illinois for possessing between 2.5 and 10 grams in 2008, and 177 -- or 14 percent -- for possessing 10 to 30 grams.

Cash-strapped municipalities across the country, from Texas to Colorado, are looking at decriminalizing marijuana as a possible budget remedy.

"It should come as no surprise," St. Pierre said, "that when the fight becomes over money, all of a a sudden people get so clear-minded about their priorities."

Getting caught with a small amount of marijuana would not automatically lead to arrest if a Cook County Commissioner gets her way. An ordinance proposed this week by Commissioner Earlean Collins (D-C...
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- KDog76A I'm a Fan of KDog76A 18 fans permalink
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The state of illinois could make tons in tax revenues if it were legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 06/23/2009
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put that in your pipe Mark Kirk.........

"Republican Rep. Mark Kirk (Illinois) has called for federal legislation to sentence certain first-time marijuana offenders to up to 25 years in prison."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 06/23/2009
- PatA I'm a Fan of PatA 49 fans permalink
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I know many productive people who have smoked pot consistently most of their adult life.
How many people have you seen drive a car, while stoned, and kill someone with said car?
Join LEAP! It is Law Enforcement Against Prohibitio­n...fantas­tic group. Google them, if you're interested.
I worked in a prison and I know how many people are in there for small pot offenses. America is addicted to prisons and the private prisons are here to stay. Make no mistake about that. The less they spend on offender services, the more the state rewards them with bonuses at the end of the year. Private prisons should be closed but it won't happen in our lifetimes.Someone who served in the last administra­tion....hi­gh up.....has a part of Vanguard who has a part of GEO....I'm afraid to say his name as I imagine he has his gun near him......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 06/22/2009
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Hmmm not a bad idea. Yesterday while walking my dog I smelled people smoking pot in a public park. I thought people did that in the privacy of their home not in public. Go to the parks with two ticket booklets. Chicago will never be broke again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 06/22/2009
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INCARCERATING PEOPLE "FOR PROFIT" IS IN A WORD....WRONG!

Even if one does not ask or pretends not to see the rope and the flashing red flag draped around the philosophical question standing solemnly at attention in the middle of the room, it remains apparent that the mere presence of a private “for profit” driven prison business in our country undermines the U.S Constitution and subsequently the credibility of the American criminal justice system. In fact, until all private prisons in America have been abolished and outlawed, “the promise” of fairness and justice at every level of this country’s judicial system will remain unattainable. We must restore the principles and the vacant promise of our judicial system. Our government cannot continue to "job-out" its obligation and neglect its duty to the individuals confined in the correctional and rehabilitation facilities throughout this nation, nor can it ignore the will of the people that it was designed to serve and protect. There is urgent need for the good people of this country to emerge from the shadows of indifference, apathy, cynicism, fear, and those other dark places that we migrate to when we are overwhelmed by frustration and the loss of hope.

My hope is that you will support the National Public Service Council to Abolish Private Prisons (NPSCTAPP) with a show of solidarity by signing "The Single Voice Petition"
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Please visit our website for further information: http://www.npsctapp.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 06/21/2009
- mjb5406 I'm a Fan of mjb5406 20 fans permalink
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Collins & Stroger, with their unrealistic view of reality, probably regularly engage in "the weed" so why wouldn't they want to reduce the penalties?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 06/21/2009
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It appears that with the Great Economic Meltdown of King George and the republicants, comes the loss of feasibility in legislating morality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 06/20/2009

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It appears that with the Great Economic Meltdown of King George and the republicants, comes the loss of feasibility in legislating morality.
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but but but BUSH
the new guy's in charge now and he's added more to our debt than every one of the other 43 combined- in his first 4 months
deal with it, he owns it now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 06/21/2009
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I apologize if my descriptive terminology offended you in reference to the Stinkweed Shrub.
And I'm glad I did not bring Duck Chenelink into the post entry.
His name is sacrosanct in the annals of war crimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 06/21/2009
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Bush crashed the ship into the iceberg and you blame Obama for taking on water. Classic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/21/2009
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It took our country being shoved over the edge of a cliff for politicians to finally come to the begrudged conclusion that weed is not the evil that it has been made out to be. Any honest, rational thinking person would know that this is a no-brainer conclusion. Until someone out there can tell me how weed/canna­bis/grass/­ganja is in any way worse a vise than alcohol/booze, then the politically-led brouhaha, lies and the ridiculous criminalization of a naturally growing plant should be exposed for exactly what it is: a way for states and municipalities to both oppress and make boucoup bucks off of the backs of the poor (mainly). Just check online to see how much money your state/coun­ty/municip­ality earns from the incarceration BUSINESS. It's shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 06/20/2009
- RSU I'm a Fan of RSU 88 fans permalink
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I'm thinking you've never been to Holland have you? I have, and I've seen first hand what lax drug laws can do to people. Sure, there are some who have better control of their lives than others but for those that don't, they become a drag and a drain on society. Holland is a nation in decline and they have more people leaving than coming in.

I would never wish to see that in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 06/20/2009

RSU, it's weed not crack or meth. Get a grip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 06/21/2009

HAHAHA - you must be kidding right? I live in the Netherlands and your comments are ABSURD! Marijuana users are not a drag and drain on society here. Where was this that you saw these pot junkies? I'm laughing as you must be joking. The Netherlands is not a nation in decline and there is an influx of immigrants to this country.

Marijuana use is tolerated and guess what, it is not a big deal here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 06/22/2009
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they just closed EIGHT PRISONS in Holland.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 06/23/2009

I agree- it is a civil rights issue
something like 60% of ppl incarcerated are there for non-violent drug "crimes' - most are pot
just legalize it, tax it like anything else
if the DC and NY high society can get off on their booze and rx, let others have their drug of choice
and if they get in trouble or hurt others, then nail em.
I could agree with BO on if he chose to do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 06/21/2009
- RSU I'm a Fan of RSU 88 fans permalink
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Yup, let's get everyone high so the takeover of our lives will be easier to manage. Really, what will everyone care how high their taxes will go when they can get high instead. Jobs, who needs them, we'll have pot instead! And if you get too high and crash a train or a bus, or a subway, so what, we'll have free medical care to boot.

Sheesh, the whole country is going to pot, might as well smoke it too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 76 fans permalink
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at a guess..

rsu you've not seen this:

http://www.veryimportantpotheads.com/main2.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/20/2009
- RSU I'm a Fan of RSU 88 fans permalink
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Well then, I guess with all those famous folks on there, that makes it all okay.

Sorry, but I've seen too many lives destroyed by the effects of pot. Our children are smoking it in school and half are graduating unable to read. The streets are filled with potheads who can't function because getting high (or drunk) is the only important thing in their lives.

Here's the deal with me, if you are an adult and you want to smoke your life away, fine by me. However, don't expect me to support any public funded program to help those who can't function in their jobs, loses their families, or their homes because of it. Pot is a viscously destructive drug that saps the energy away from taking care of the important things in life.

Moreover, I think if the drug laws were changed to allow for the legalization of pot, there'd be more pot farms set up in a day than there were stills during the whole time of prohibition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/20/2009
- Earl I'm a Fan of Earl 90 fans permalink
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Defeating the prison-industrial complex will not be easy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/20/2009
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If Chicago REALLY wants to raise more revenues they could start writing tickets to drunks at sporting events! How many of them do you suppose get into vehicles and drive home?

Oh wait... but then I suppose the alcohol sponsors would object huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 06/20/2009
- RSU I'm a Fan of RSU 88 fans permalink
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Spot on point. I wonder who will make the most off of selling pot to the public. You can surely bet, it won't be the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/20/2009

This just proves that it was always about money. Expediency over principle. How bad does the economy have to get for them to decriminalize murder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 06/20/2009
- adamnb I'm a Fan of adamnb 3 fans permalink

There's an awful big difference between murder and smoking pot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Money over principal?

Marijuana prohibition is a religious prejudice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 06/20/2009
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Yeah, it's always about money... and control. Control of the money, control of the people.

It's been a long time but I remember reading about the history of marijuana in America and the criminalizing of it was all due to a couple things-- like William Randall Hearst not wanting hemp to be grown and compete with the paper industry he had a hand in and depended on... (weyerhauser, maybe?) and it was also made illegal because of the Mexican immigratio­n/populati­on in the Southwest and West areas. And yes, religion played a part in it too, as it does in all things fundies feel should be "prohibited".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 76 fans permalink
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omg siralfred..

comparing murder to marijuana is so astute of you!

it never even occurred to me that they both start with an ''m''.

oh.. just for fun.. here's a present from me to you.. enjoy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1657827965975839596&hl=en

you may need popcorn it's long..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/20/2009
- solarian I'm a Fan of solarian 15 fans permalink

that is some mexican brick weed try trainwreck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 06/20/2009

Man, that's some crummy lookin weed in that picture....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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That is what I was thinking, it looks like it is all stems and seeds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 06/20/2009
- zeotrope I'm a Fan of zeotrope 4 fans permalink

Yes I noticed that. I would grind that up that for fertilizer for my pot plants. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 06/21/2009
- bigpaws23 I'm a Fan of bigpaws23 3 fans permalink

I'm sorry, that looks like some really BAD weed in the picture. Legalize it and the da kine will be available to all!

In college we used to call that nasty weed "cleat" because it looks like the stuff you scrape off your cleats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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I met a woman who works as a trimer, she feeds stuff like that to her bird.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 06/20/2009
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We called that kind of stuff "dirt weed" or "sweepings" as in swept up off the floor and tossed in a bag to sell. After smoking it we'd just say "wow, what crap!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 76 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 06/20/2009
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