Nixon Tapes: Abortion Necessary "When You Have A Black And A White"

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First Posted: 06-23-09 04:03 PM   |   Updated: 06-23-09 04:13 PM

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The New York Times:

On Jan. 23, 1973, when the Supreme Court struck down state criminal abortion laws in Roe v. Wade, President Richard M. Nixon made no public statement. But privately, newly released tapes reveal, he expressed ambivalence.

Nixon worried that greater access to abortions would foster "permissiveness," and said that "it breaks the family." But he also saw a need for abortion in some cases, such as interracial pregnancies.

"There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white," he told an aide, before adding: "Or a rape.

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On Jan. 23, 1973, when the Supreme Court struck down state criminal abortion laws in Roe v. Wade, President Richard M. Nixon made no public statement. But privately, newly released tapes reveal, he ex...
On Jan. 23, 1973, when the Supreme Court struck down state criminal abortion laws in Roe v. Wade, President Richard M. Nixon made no public statement. But privately, newly released tapes reveal, he ex...
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- joeyfoto I'm a Fan of joeyfoto 50 fans permalink
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After 40 years of reeducation and inter-racial experience, it is hard for us to imagine how "normal" even ordinary this sort of racism remained in 1973. What people must understand is not that Dick Nixon was a slime-ball --- that is demonstrable from dozens of documents and recorded statements --- the important thing is to hear what he said in its historical context.

There were places in America where this would have been looked at askance, but those were pockets of "liberalism" or better manners. As difficult as it may be to accept, what Nixon said would not have raised an eyebrow at many Elk's Clubs or church socials, in 1973... and certainly not in most bars. People would have accepted it as normal. If that's hard to accept, it's because most people, who think that way today, know to keep it to themselves.

We must never forget that America is an historically racist state --- all 50 of them. Without accepting that context, it is impossible to understand the pockets of traditional American White-Christian racism, of the sort that most of us grew up around, if not in our homes, in our communities. Unlike our contemporary manifestation of racism from reactionar­y-skinhead­s, it was persistent and insidious..

People who are shocked by Nixon's racist statement would have been in a perpetual state-of-shock at "normal" conversation throughout much of America in the 50s, 60s and well into the 70s. To properly understand Nixon's statement requires that historical perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 06/25/2009
- Aesthete I'm a Fan of Aesthete 31 fans permalink

It's not just the historic racism, which was and remains a constant in many quarters, it's the idea that babies of a certain racial composition ought to be killed. Is this to say that conservatives are willing to rescind their anti-abortion stance for reasons of race? If this is true then they are nothing more than murderers at heart---certainly not pro-life as many claim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 06/25/2009
- merger I'm a Fan of merger 9 fans permalink

Much was different 35 years ago. Most people were not inclined to accept inter-racial marriages or relationships. Much has changed for the better since then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 06/25/2009
- Aesthete I'm a Fan of Aesthete 31 fans permalink

Thank God. If this monster had been allowed to have his way, two-thirds of a generation of my family would have been killed off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 06/25/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

He sure was such a Crook !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 06/25/2009
- Imhotep40 I'm a Fan of Imhotep40 9 fans permalink
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I'm shocked!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 06/25/2009
- Imhotep40 I'm a Fan of Imhotep40 9 fans permalink
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Suprised? Yellow Dog Democrats, Boll weevils, GOP, Nixonian, Reagonite etc., etc. are all different names for the same policy of "Separate but Unequal" and legislated "JustUs" policies. . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 06/25/2009
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It's Sad Nixon wanted to get rid of the man That is President of the United States today!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 06/24/2009
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Great comment, Taz2.

Nixon was talking only six years after that same Supreme Court finally decriminalized interracial marriage in the 14 states where it was still a crime. The case was LOVING v. VIRGINIA, 1967.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 06/25/2009
- MsIrisMG I'm a Fan of MsIrisMG 20 fans permalink
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Whom is this a surpise to?! The man was a Quaker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 06/24/2009
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But the Quakers fought slavery and fought FOR racial equality.

It's so hard to think of this foul-mouthed, war-making bigot as a Quaker... I know he was a Quaker by name, but he sure didn't practice it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 06/25/2009
- Aesthete I'm a Fan of Aesthete 31 fans permalink

Nixon was born to a Quaker family, but he quit that denomination and joined the Presbyterian church. Nixon suffered from social status anxiety and considered the Presbyterian church more "respectable" than the church of his birth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 06/25/2009
- Common1 I'm a Fan of Common1 2 fans permalink

This is the ilk of Pat Buchanan. Whenever you see Buchanan turning beat red and foaming at the mouth in regards to Affirmative Action and the Puerto Rican SOTUS nominee, this is the brain trust from which he was conceived, Nixon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 06/24/2009

How prescient. He certainly knew that a person like O ("black and white") would be a danger to the white supremacist establishment in the United States.

Nixon was certainly ahead of his time. No wonder the rethugs love him, and seek to deify him like that other paragon of traditional American values -- Reagan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 06/24/2009
- FebM I'm a Fan of FebM 37 fans permalink

Nixon, Nixon, I see you had a final solution for some American, but your southern strategy has come back to bite your behind! What goes round comes round.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 06/24/2009
- wijg I'm a Fan of wijg 36 fans permalink
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God! I can't stand big_ots!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 06/24/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 324 fans permalink
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Nix0n will eventually be considered the 20th century's Lincoln.

Obama has already done far worse than Watergate... look into his relationship with Ac0rn.

It'll be called: Ac0rngate, or Waterchestnutgate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/24/2009
- SansArc I'm a Fan of SansArc 12 fans permalink
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Yeah for sure! Especially when he says that an abortion is necessary when its white and black or rape. Comparing rape to an interacial relationship between whites and blacks is definitely right up there with Lincoln. Did you read the article???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 06/24/2009

I don't know who's more nuts, you are nixon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 06/24/2009
- AFAN I'm a Fan of AFAN 33 fans permalink

I guess that how you feel about people of color.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 06/24/2009
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This was part and partial of the world at that time - you had a lot of democrats like George Wallace, Byrd et al who were equally as bigotted too.

I grew up during this time and it was and is vitally important to keep abortion safe, secure and rare. Too many young girls and women died at the hands of butchers.

Never again - the only good thing nixon had was kissinger IMHO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 06/24/2009

part and parcel............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/24/2009
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See, wingnuts? Pro-choice could've prevented the ascendance of Anti-Christ Obama. What to do, what to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 06/24/2009
- SansArc I'm a Fan of SansArc 12 fans permalink
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Very amuseing but...quite sad as well that their is someone out there who may actually take that seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 06/24/2009

He was a President.­.wow..this man is still scary to this day...I wonder what he kids think about their father and grandfather

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 06/24/2009

Nixon did great things. He established the Environmental Protection Agency. He ended the war in Viet Nam, he opened relations with China. Who cares what he thought about interracial marriage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 06/24/2009
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Anyone who believes in the Declaration of Independence, the line about all of us being created equal cares.

Anyone who believes in racial equality cares.

Cares now, and cares back then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 06/25/2009
- Aesthete I'm a Fan of Aesthete 31 fans permalink

I'm not as concerned about his feelings on interracial relationships as I am about the fact that he wanted to kill their offspring, which is truly disturbing and makes him a monster. Today, we have a bi-racial president. God is just.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 06/25/2009
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