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First Posted: 06-26-09 12:01 AM   |   Updated: 06-26-09 12:51 AM

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Timothy Geithner said on Thursday that the Obama White House was attempting to create a new economic system in which large institutions did not assume that the government would automatically bail them out when times got tough. But the Treasury Secretary also argued against the abolition of credit default swaps - one of the instruments that helped bring the financial system to its knees - saying such a move would stifle creativity in a market desperate for innovation.

"Overall, we do not believe that you can build a system based on banning individual products - our core challenge is ensuring we have a system that has a proper balance between innovation on the one hand and consumer protection on the other," said Geithner.

In a unique merging of online media and oversight politics, Geithner's remarks were part of 12 answers he provided to questions posed to him by Huffington Post readers. Those questions had been relayed to the Treasury Department by Richard Neiman, a member of the Congressional Oversight Panel for the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act who had solicited input for his queries to the Treasury Secretary in a blog post in mid-April.

In a 10-page response to those questions that was provided to Neiman's office and the Huffington Post on Thursday evening, Geither addressed a whole host of pressing financial and economic topics. While his answers were mostly explanatory in nature they touched on some of the pressing concerns about the economy as expressed across ideological spectrum.

Among the many topics addressed, Geithner said that while the government had already made small returns on its investments in banks - and some of those banks had begun returning TARP money - he believed taxpayers would ultimately emerge from the bailout with a loss.

"In the end, it's unlikely that we will be able to escape from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression without some losses to taxpayers," he said. "But those losses would have been much greater had we not acted."

The Treasury Secretary also outlined a regulatory framework that would essentially buffer the system from future catastrophe without sapping creativity. Ultimately, he argued, the new economic structure would provide the conditions for robust growth without getting to the point where banks and other institutions become "too-big-too-fail."

"We want to make sure that no one assumes the government will step in to bail them out if their firm fails," he said. "We want to require all firms to keep more capital and liquid assets on hand as a greater shock absorber against potential future losses and that the biggest, most interconnected firms, keep even larger amounts on hand."

On the topic of executive compensation, Geithner said that the government was powerless to direct the practices of those institutions that did not "directly receive financial assistance under TARP." But he restated the White House's commitment to better align "the executive compensation practices of financial firms with the long-term interest of shareholders, the financial system, and the economy as a whole."

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For those economic observers still of the belief that the administration should nationalize particularly troubled banks, Geithner's answers provided as clear an indication to date that such a proposal was not on the administration's radar.

"A government takeover of one or more of our largest institutions would bring with it huge risks," he wrote. "Nationalization of one or more of these large institutions would raise questions about the status of others... There is also the problem of the exit strategy.... Nationalized institutions would likely have to shrink substantially before they could be privatized."

And on the early-criticized plan to purchase toxic assets from the banks using public-private partnerships, he insisted that the books of these troubled institutions had already begun clearing up.

As for measuring the administration's success on these topics and its economic policies more broadly, Geithner suggested what, in the current climate, might seem like a politically risky metric.

"A good starting point is looking at broad measures of economic performance, like jobs," he said. "Job losses in the month of May were at their lowest level since September 2008, and they were about one half of the average monthly job losses for the first quarter of the year. Although somewhat indirect, overall performance measures such as employment can provide important information about the health of the credit markets."

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While the answers provide a detailed reflection of how the Treasury Department views its approach to the economy, the process by which they were received is itself interesting. In an April 20 blog for the Huffington Post, Neiman asked readers to submit questions for Geithner for an oversight hearing scheduled the week ahead. Reflecting a profound interest in such subject matters from the online community, over 600 suggestions followed.

Towards the end of his portion of the Geithner hearing, Neiman asked the Treasury Secretary if he could submit some of the questions he had received in writing - a request that was granted. And on May 29, Neiman formally submitted the list to Treasury.

"The 12 categories of questions attached to this letter represent the genuine concerns and frustrations of the American people," Neiman wrote. "Each category contains one to three questions on a similar subject matter to allow for one comprehensive response. Some questions are very tough and express deep frustration and suspicion, but they reflect shared areas of concern and true inquires. All of the questions attached are verbatim or near verbatim."

In a show of how citizen engagement can be rolled into oversight of the highest levels of government, Geithner sent Neiman his responses slightly less than a month later.

"Thank you for forwarding the questions from the public that were submitted in response to your posting on the Huffington Post," his response letter read. "Please find my answers attached."

Timothy Geithner said on Thursday that the Obama White House was attempting to create a new economic system in which large institutions did not assume that the government would automatically bail them...
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- playon I'm a Fan of playon 8 fans permalink

"...attempting to create a new economic system in which large institutions did not assume that the government would automatically bail them out when times got tough."

And he does this by doing what... bailing them all out when times got tough!!! Give me a break...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/25/2009
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Timothy Geithner, like Hank Paulson and Robert Rubin before him, only cares about one thing - investment banks like Goldman Sachs.

He has zero interest in or knowledge of Main Street. All of his experience comes from investment banking. His top deputy came to the job directly from his position as a Goldman Sachs lobbyist for Pete's sake. He appointed Edward Liddy (ex-Goldman) to run AIG.

Obama's other top economic advisor is Larry "deregulation" Summers, also ex-Goldman. Hank Paulson, who negotiated the bailout package with Geithner was at Goldman for almost twenty years.

When AIG's rescue plan was being negotiated the three people in the room were Hank Paulson, Timothy Geithner and Llody Blankfein. Who is Lloyd Blankfein? He's the CEO of Goldman Sachs of course!

There's more - Obama's head of the Commodities Futures Trading Commision (the body which regulates derivatives) is Gary Gensler who spent 18 years at Goldman.

We need to wake up to what's going on, people! This is a wealth grab by Goldman Sachs and other investment banks of an unprecedented scale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 07/03/2009
- nomorefed I'm a Fan of nomorefed 3 fans permalink

We need to stop the corruption by Goldman, bank of Amerika, and Jp Morgan. Stop the Geithner and bernanke. . Go to: http://www.bit.ly/12NCJR and read the full Rolling Stone [Taibbi] The Great American Bubble Machine article. (on the upper right hand side)

Obamma,s policies may not be working as well as many had hoped:

1st 100 days - There are 2.9 million more people unemployed in May than there were unemployed in January. The unemployment rate went from 7.6% to 9.4%. Since May 2008, we have lost 5.5 million jobs. The biggest losers were: Manufacturing 1.5 million lost Finance & Prof Serv 1.5 million lost Construction 1.1 million lost Retail & Leisure 1.3 million lost

good articles http://www.bit.ly/12NCJR recommended reading

Why isnt the stock market falling when the economy is sinking? Why cant we get change in Washington that we really need? Why vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 06/29/2009
- msjimmied I'm a Fan of msjimmied 38 fans permalink
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Timmy, what you need to be also paying attention to, other than the banks not dying on your watch, is that we the people are not being fleeced in the market. Trust has to be restored, not just for us, but also for the world. Unless you do something about the markets, with Bair and the SEC bearing down hard on what is going on, we are doomed.

Here is an excellent example, I remember being stunned as I watched it, it is no surprise when I read this article. This is flagrant, arrogant and criminal behavior. I cannot "naked" short a stock, it has to be an institution. There will be markers along the way. Follow the money. Stop this. Our 401k and savings are being trashed daily...

http://www.deepcapture.com/michael-milken-60000-deaths-and-the-story-of-dendreon-chapter-1-of-15/

Disclosure: No position. ever. no axe to grind

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 06/28/2009
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Do you think that anyone reading "The Over-the-Counter Derivatives Markets and the Commodity Exchange Act," Report of The President's Working Group on Financial Markets, whose members were Lawrence Summers, Alan Greenspan, Arthur Levitt, and William Rainer, released in November, 1999, would get the distinct impression that the American Congress and the American people were not only taken for a ride, but led to the killing floor by these very smart, but devious men, in their effort to have regulations further eroded, and so set up the system so that the wealth of the nation can be transferred from the people, who worked to earn it, to the accounts of the banking elite?

And then, wouldn't you believe that the reason that we would want to resist globalization, at all costs, is because just as the U.S. was set up to transfer these trillions, the wealth of the world would be in jeopardy to this same class of the moneyed elite.

Maintain our sovereignty! Uphold the Constitution!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 06/28/2009

you are exactly right!

Good freaking luck to all of us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 06/29/2009
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We need everyone to rise to the CHALLENGE AMERICA FACES; People, the handful of honest members of Congress, Obama if he is NOT too far gone, and yes even the 0LD Chamber of Commerce!

The "chamber" needs to see the light of truth and become an "Open Mind of Commerce."

The facts are the Mafia went underground under Kennedy and rose quietly through Wall Street to create the most corrupt system of Markets and Government Control and Manipulation the World has seen.

In the meantime America has gone from the #1 Creditor Nation to the #1 Debtor in correlation with the DEBT Printing Power of the Wall Street, London, German, Swiss Controlled FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM.

America must be saved from the Mafia control of all our Systems and De-Link Congress and the Executive Branch from the Mafia Corporatists that use ill-gotten Money to Buy the Votes it wants!

The new "Open-Mind of Commerce" must rise up and put America back on the ROAD to Democracy and TRUE Capitalism as opposed to the EL1TE Mafia Oligarchy that has grown to infect America these last 30 to 40 years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 06/28/2009
- nomorefed I'm a Fan of nomorefed 3 fans permalink

geithner= crook??

good articles for slow news days: http://www.bit.ly/12NCJR

If the truth were being reported we'd be having riots in the streets. And meanwhile the top execs in banks and brokeragesa that caused such a mess are STILL employed and making millions while laying off THOUSANDS of people that actually do work. If you know anyone in banking that's still employed, odds are they are doing the work of three people so the top execs can show 'savings' and contineu collecting mega-incomes. http://www.bit.ly/12NCJR

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/28/2009
- solarian I'm a Fan of solarian 15 fans permalink

is a crook and who hired him a crook. why does he have a job

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 06/28/2009
- Disciple1 I'm a Fan of Disciple1 8 fans permalink

Geithner and Summers--as everyone knows--are connected at the hip and have been for YEARS. It is patently clear, except to the those advising the President on financial matters, that those two are cleverly subotaging the Administrations overall goal of effectively REGULATING the fat cats in the banking industry. It is high time that the national media initiates some REAL investigative activity and expose these charlatans. Give me a break--do your homework! Can't any of you see how G & S stand to profit by slowing--if not completely halting--Obama's plans to overhaul this mess?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 06/27/2009
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Stop drinking the Kool-Aid - Obama is 100% complicit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 06/28/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 235 fans permalink

Obama and Getner work for the bankers.

Please prove me wrong.

TARP, Getener, Signing statements to PREVENT IMF audits, all lead inescapably to the same conclusions:

Obama works for the world's Banksters.

Please, Please prove me wrong.

Obama's speeches can't do that.

Show me the actions Obama has taken to reign in the bankers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 06/27/2009
- robbrian I'm a Fan of robbrian 8 fans permalink
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Excerpt from Ellen H. Brown, "The Web of Debt"

Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been "privatized," by a private money cartel. Our money is now created as loans advanced by the private Federal Reserve. Banks create the principal. To find the interest, new loans must continually be taken out, expanding the money supply, inflating prices — and robbing you of the value of your money.

Not only is virtually the entire money supply created privately by banks, but a mere handful of very big banks is responsible for a massive investment scheme known as "derivatives," which now tallies in at hundreds of trillions of dollars. The banking system has been contrived so that these big banks always get bailed out by the taxpayers from their risky ventures, but the scheme has reached its mathematical limits. There isn't enough money in the entire global economy to bail out the banks from a massive derivatives default today.

Web of Debt unravels the deceptions in our money scheme and presents a crystal clear picture of the financial abyss towards which we are heading. Then it explores a workable alternative, one that was tested in colonial America and is grounded in the best of American economic thought, including the writings of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln. If you care about financial security, your own or the nation's, you should read this book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 06/27/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 345 fans permalink
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http://www.webofdebt.com

Ellen's articles are required reading.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 06/28/2009
- vooter I'm a Fan of vooter 10 fans permalink

I and many other "goldbugs" and "wingnuts" have known this--and have been ridiculed for saying it--for years. You people all need to WAKE UP. The Federal Reserve is a private cabal of bankers that has been bleeding this nation dry with inflation since 1913 (the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar has declined by 97% in that time). Abolish the Federal Reserve and put the U.S. dollar back on a gold or silver standard. It's the ONLY THING that will save this country. Otherwise, enjoy your slavery....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 06/29/2009
- nomorefed I'm a Fan of nomorefed 3 fans permalink


Money doesn’t grow on trees for most of America. We sit down at our kitchen tables and write
out checks to the phone-company, electric company, credit card-company, mortgage-company,
and auto finance company every month. We clip coupons and go to the grocery store every
week to put food in the mouths of our children. This is what our parents did before us.

good articles: http://investmintideas.blogspot.com/ recommended

Goldman and Bank of America run the markets along with Geithner, and beagle boy Ben. There
is no free markets, only welfare capitalism and socialism for capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/27/2009
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The Obama administration has no idea how to fix the broken system. The scheme to regulate the derivative industry is to have a pyublic clearing house that will regulate and guarantee the risk? What the F
We will get a government owned AIG same as it ever was.

The new carbon cap N trade is now in effect what will it accomplish ? More money men making the doh rey me while doing absolutely nothing to stop the global warming issue. The global warming issue is a world wide phenomenon. Obama claims this as a jobs bill jobs for who men who are busy learning ho w to game a new system? If you don't want pollution stop shitting where you eat. Don't allow the guy two doors over to pay you and let him take a dump in your lunch box.

We are being run by a corrupt system of bankers who don't care one whit if we have a sane monetary system or if our planet is clean. We have just sanctioned a trading system and made it look green.
it will tax our consumption and make Wall Street boyos rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 06/27/2009

There is nothing innovative about credit or debt. There is no such thing as "creativity in the market." Capitalism has failed, failed, failed. It's time to sharpen those pitch forks because unemployment is still on the rise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 06/27/2009

bottom line i:;

Financial innovation = accounting tricks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 06/29/2009
- olmossy I'm a Fan of olmossy 17 fans permalink

Just saw Joseph Stiglitz on C-Span. I was surprized to see that he agrees with a lot of us here on HuffPost
Basicly that allthough Communizm failed as a financial model , Unfettered Free Market Capitilism had Certainly Failed just as badly.
I took some of his answers to questions to indicate that One of our biggest problems was the Investment/Banking Lobbys had too much control over our Government. They can use their influence to Deregulate make a lot of money, crash the system, make a lot of money, have us bail them out , stop new regulation. They're running the show.

Good Article by J. Stiglitz at VanityFair. punch up 'Wall Street's Toxic Message.' Good Read.

It would seem overall We're not being forced to take the same medicine the IMF forced on other countries.

Yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 06/27/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 345 fans permalink
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Questioning Conventional Wisdom on Credit Default Swaps

n response, the administration proposes to “require clearing of all standardized OTC derivatives through regulated central counterparties (CCPs).” In addition, “regulated financial institutions should be encouraged to make greater use of regulated exchange-traded derivatives.” Major players in the market will also be subject to conservative capital requirements (making sure they have enough money in case their trades go badly) and reporting requirements. These provisions aim to increase regulatory oversight and minimize the chances that a derivatives dealer will fail and take its counterparties down with it, and as far as they go they are a good thing.

However, there is one potential loophole that, according to UCLA law professor Lynn Stout (on Friday’s Morning Edition), is “potentially big enough to put the state of Texas into.” The loophole is that “customized bilateral OTC derivatives transactions” would remain out of the reach of both exchanges and CCPs.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/145515-questioning-conventional-wisdom-on-credit-default-swaps

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 06/27/2009
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