UN Backs Manuel Zelaya, Ousted Honduran Leader

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WILL WEISSERT | 06/30/09 11:47 PM | AP

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Supporters of ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya gather near the presidential residence in Tegucigalpa, Tuesday, June 30, 2009. The U.N. General Assembly demanded the immediate restoration of Zelaya but Honduras' congressional leader Roberto Micheletti, whom Congress appointed president last Sunday, said Zelaya could be arrested if he returns home. The sign reads in Spanish: "Out Gorilettis! Mel, the real president", referring to congressional leader Roberto Micheletti, whom Congress appointed president last Sunday, and to his supporters. Mel is Zelaya's nickname. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo)

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — Honduras' ousted president won overwhelming international support Tuesday as he planned a high-profile return to his chaotic country. The politicians who sent soldiers to fly him into exile in his pajamas said he will be arrested for treason if he tries.

The interim leader named by Congress, Roberto Micheletti, warned only an armed invasion could restore toppled President Manuel Zelaya.

"He has already committed crimes against the constitution and the law. He can no longer return to the presidency of the republic unless a president from another Latin American country comes and imposes him using guns," Micheletti said in an interview with The Associated Press from the heavily fortified presidential palace.

The showdown was building to a climax as the presidents of Argentina and Ecuador signed on to accompany Zelaya and the heads of the Organization of American States and the U.N. General Assembly on a flight to Honduras on Thursday.

Attorney General Luis Alberto Rubi said Zelaya would be seized "as soon as he sets foot on Honduran soil" and face 20 years in prison on charges that also include abuse of authority.

"I'm going back to calm people down. I'm going to try to open a dialogue and put things in order," Zelaya said at the United Nations. "When I'm back, people are going to say ... `commander, we're at your service' and the army will have to correct itself. There's no other possibility."

The U.N. General Assembly voted by acclamation to demand Zelaya's immediate restoration, and the Organization of American States was meeting to consider suspending Honduras for straying from democracy. Albert Rambin, the OAS' assistant secretary-general, said the new president intended to send a Honduran delegation to the OAS, but it would not be accepted.

With no international support but a significant following at home, the new Honduran leadership called thousands of flag-waving people into a downtown plaza. Soldiers fenced off the area around the presidential palace, where security forces used tear gas and water cannons Monday against Zelaya supporters, injuring and arresting dozens.

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Zelaya _ whose elected term ends in January 2010 _ had defied the Supreme Court and called a referendum on constitutional change that opponents worried would lead to Zelaya prolonging his presidency.

Zelaya backed down from the referendum on Tuesday, saying at the United Nations that he would no longer push for the constitutional changes he had wanted.

"I'm not going to hold a constitutional assembly," he said. "And if I'm offered the chance to stay in power, I won't. I'm going to serve my four years."

He said he would then go back to being a farmer _ a humble description considering the wealth he has accumulated in ranching and agribusiness.

"I come from the countryside and I'm going to go back to the countryside," he said.

But Micheletti vowed he would not resign no matter how intense the international pressure became. He said it was too late for Zelaya to avoid arrest if he returns to Honduras.

"No. I was appointed by Congress, which represents the Honduran people. Nobody can make me resign unless I break the laws of the country," he told AP.

Micheletti said he was worried about the possibility of invasion from other Latin American countries but vowed Honduras was ready to fight.

He did not name any specific countries, but earlier Tuesday, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said any aggression toward Zelaya from Micheletti's government should prompt a military intervention by the United Nations.

"If there is any invasion against our country, 7.5 million Hondurans will be ready to defend our territory and our laws and our homeland and our government," he said.

Earlier Micheletti addressed a crowd of some 5,000 cheering supporters in white and blue, the colors of the Honduran flag.

"We thank God for not letting democracy be interrupted in our country," Micheletti said, flanked by troops in camouflage. "The heroes of this democratic day are the soldiers."

Meanwhile, a pro-Zelaya crowd of about equal size marched toward the presidential palace, now protected by a chain-link fence and more than 500 soldiers and police. They dispersed as rain began to fall in the late afternoon with no reports of violence _ a contrast with Monday when Zelaya said more than 150 were injured and 50 arrested. Micheletti's government didn't release figures.

Micheletti's foreign minister, Enrique Ortez, threw a wild card onto the table, telling CNN en Espanol that Zelaya had been letting drug traffickers ship U.S.-bound cocaine from Venezuela through Honduras. Ortez said the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration was aware of Zelaya's ties to organized crime.

Spokesman Rusty Payne could neither confirm nor deny a DEA investigation.

The United States stood firmly by Zelaya, however, with State Department spokesman Ian Kelly saying Washington sees no acceptable solution other than Zelaya's return to power. He said the United States is considering cutting off its aid to Honduras, which includes $215 million over four years from the U.S.-funded Millennium Challenge Corporation.

Micheletti said he had no contact with any U.S. authorities since assuming the presidency.

The U.N. vote added to an avalanche of international denunciations of the military's removal of Zelaya on Sunday, which recalled the dark days of dictatorship for which Latin America was long notorious. The world body called on all 192 U.N. member states to recognize only Zelaya's government in Honduras.

The Organization of American States _ whose Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza had agreed to accompany Zelaya back to Honduras _ planned an emergency meeting in Washington hours later to reinforce the pressure to reinstate the Honduran leader.

Some members _ such as Venezuela _ want to suspend Honduras under an agreement meant to prevent military coups, while others _ including Colombia _ argue that while the OAS should condemn the coup, suspending Honduras would be interventionist.

Mexico and Colombia's conservative governments joined the region's leftist leaders in condemning Zelaya's removal. Blocked trucks began lining up along Honduras' borders as neighboring countries imposed a trade ban.

Some local television stations remained off the air and local media carried few reports of demonstrations in Zelaya's favor, apparently under government pressure. Ortez said freedom of expression was in full force but did not directly address the closure of stations or the temporary detention of journalists.

The U.S. military, which has close ties to Honduran commanders, tried to avoid getting caught up in the dispute. It ordered most of its 800 personnel to remain inside the Soto Cano air base, 60 miles (100 kilometers) north of Tegucigalpa, allowing only "mission-essential" tasks, Southern Command spokesman Jose Ruiz said in Miami.

Honduras receives about $1 million a year from the United States to fight drug trafficking and Soto Cano is a key base in the fight against drugs. There's also a contingent of DEA agents in country. U.S. and Honduran officials estimate about 100 tons of Colombian cocaine pass through Honduras annually on their way to the United States.

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Associated Press writers contributing to this report include Marcos Aleman and Freddy Cuevas in Tegucigalpa, Julie Watson in Mexico City, Frank Bajak in Bogota, Ian James in Caracas, Mayra Pertossi in Buenos Aires, Argentina, Claudia Torrens at the United Nations, and Barry Schweid in Washington.

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — Honduras' ousted president won overwhelming international support Tuesday as he planned a high-profile return to his chaotic country. The politicians who sent soldiers to...
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- Pero I'm a Fan of Pero 12 fans permalink

No "tweetering" from Honduras - a military coup there is OK for Republican Neanderthals?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 07/01/2009

For those who might be able to read Spanish, here is an excellent blog documenting what is going on.

http://orhpositivo.wordpress.com/

WARNING: Some readers might find the photos disturbing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/01/2009
- shotei I'm a Fan of shotei 26 fans permalink

This is crazy. The country used all legal procedures to avoid a new dictator and the world condemns it. The army, if used in accordance to civilian leadership (in the case, the Congress), it is a crucial tool to protect democracy. That's what has happened. It wasn't a coup d'etat, it was a legal manouver to maintain Honduran democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 07/01/2009
- audadvnc I'm a Fan of audadvnc 23 fans permalink
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But the United Fruit Company has veto power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 07/01/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Zelaya is part of United Fruit audadvnc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 07/01/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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I found a translation of an article (42) from the Constitution of Honduras. Interesting. I am still looking for a better translation.

" Interestingly, the Honduran Constitution of 1982 (Honduras: Constitución de 1982) does provide for loss of citizenship for those who “incite, promote or aid in the continuation or re-election of the President” (article 42, translation )

ARTICULO 42.- La calidad de ciudadano se pierde:

5. Por incitar, promover o apoyar el continuismo o la reelección del Presidente de la República; y,
from poliblogger-com/?p=16111 "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 07/01/2009

Have you read the Honduran constitution? Please do.

Also, please read up the specific supreme court decision that started this all.

This coup, and it is a coup, is wholly illegal plain and simple.

The United States, and the world, including very anti-leftist states, would NOT be siding with Cuba, and Venezuela, I assure you, if multiple qualified legal experts had not gone through every nook and cranny and come to the conclusion that is flagrantly illegal.

MOREOVER, even countires who would otherwise be friendly to the cuop cannot by definiton support it, least cuops become recognized legimitate forms of political redress.

Wrong in every sense, and in very case.

Whatever problems with Zelaya could have been addressed under color of law, and there would be ZERO problems with that.

The catastrophic shortsightedness of the golpistas is mindbogglingly. Did they really think the free world hates Chavez more then it loves the rule of law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 07/01/2009
- Alcove-One I'm a Fan of Alcove-One 4 fans permalink
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Cuba, and Venezuela are dictatorships where law means what the dictator says it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 07/01/2009
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Re/"...it was a legal manouver"

Grabbing a President in his pajamas the middle of the night and throwing him out of country is a .." legal maneuver"?!
Very funny.
You can always find plenty of amusement on this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 07/01/2009
- uvymopka I'm a Fan of uvymopka 21 fans permalink
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This situation in Honduras is very instructive. I think anybody who thinks that Obama intends to just constitutionally go away in 2016 is nuts. That's what all this ACORN stuff is all about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/01/2009

Stop. Watching. Fox News.

It's hurting you brother.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 07/01/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Who should we watch Emanuel?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/01/2009
- Alcove-One I'm a Fan of Alcove-One 4 fans permalink
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thank you sister

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/01/2009
- PurplePeon I'm a Fan of PurplePeon 2 fans permalink
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So Obama didn't want to "meddle" with Iran's election while its government was killing the protesters, but he immediately speaks out against the Honduras' congress, supreme court, and Zelaya's own political party, when they order the military to remove him because of attempting to go against their constitution?

And now the UN backs Zelaya?

Totally bizarre.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 07/01/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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Yep, when you right wingers consistently get the story wrong it is bizarre. What's the matter you guys have reading comprehension problems?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 07/01/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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The facts:

The Honduran President wanted to have a non binding referendum to gauge the will of the people on whether they would like to change the constitution to allow the President a second term. A non binding referendum is like a Gallup Poll.

The Honduran armed forces chief, General Romeo Vasquez refused to allow the non binding referendum to take place. The president fired the general.

The supreme court ordered the president to reinstate the general, when the president did not obey them they told the army to remove the president.

Here is a link to the story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/29/manuel-zelaya-honduras-coup-protests

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 07/01/2009
- PurplePeon I'm a Fan of PurplePeon 2 fans permalink
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I can link you to my facts. But I'll believe your "facts" as much as you'll believe mine.

And regardless of that, it does not explain the "meddling."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 AM on 07/01/2009
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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The guy was democratically elected. And it's "President" Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 07/01/2009
- PurplePeon I'm a Fan of PurplePeon 2 fans permalink
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You didn't call Bush president, I don't have to call Obama president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 07/01/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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President Obama--Where is his real birth certifacte? The long form one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 07/02/2009

It is called the Monroe Doctrine....been in place for a while...

Every American president thinks he has a say in this hemisphere's affair

American Hegemony at its best

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 07/01/2009
- tclower I'm a Fan of tclower 6 fans permalink

That's because Iran is our enemy. Obama is too chicken to oppose Ahmadinijad. After all, starting more conflict wouldn't be the 'CHANGE' that all his sheeple voted for. Now, about Honduras - he could care less what the new guy thinks there, but he's also chicken of our other 'enemies', Chavez and Castro, who both have their own political interest for wanting Zelaya in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/01/2009
- Weirdwriter I'm a Fan of Weirdwriter 331 fans permalink
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It surely is a complex situation, which the Hondurans are entirely capable of working out themselves peacefully without a smidgen of interference from the U.S.

Vaya con Dios, amigos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 06/30/2009
- Caliwoman I'm a Fan of Caliwoman 9 fans permalink

Exscept that we fund the military that overthrew a democratically elected president, trained the five generals behind the coup at SOA in Georgia, and our intl. aid props up the corrupt elite of the nation. ?Now you want us to but out? Ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 07/01/2009

I have a very close Honduran friend and I have been in contact with her today. They are not wealthy family, and here is a quote from email:

"We are fine but fighting for our peace an democracy, the world needs to know Zelaya is an evil person just like Chavez and Castro! Hope we can have the support of the international community! Take care,we will keep in touch!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 06/30/2009

I wonder what does without email access would say to us. When you have to preface a statement with the qualifier denying wealth,... well,.... kindof defeats the purpose no?

Moreover,... as soon as I hear the Chavez+Castro = Devil line, I know that the person is not operating under full power of rationality. Zelaya is not Chavez. Chavez is not Castro. Castro, he is not even Castro anymore.

Human nature is complex, more so in the political spectrum, and it would serve us well to avoid infantile bogyman labels when addressing our political concerns.

The FACT is Chavez was elected, and reelected, and reinstated after an illegal coup, BY THE POEPLE of VENEZUELA, freely and fairly, and will most likely continue to do so. Are you telling me that the PEOPLE OF VENEZUELA are evil? Yes? No?

Can we move on form childish name calling, thank you very much?

That anyone does not like Chavez, or Castro, or Zelaya is fine, all are free to do so, and there is plenty of reason to seriously dislike any of them, we are allowed to do everything LEGALLY in our power to address our grievances. But just because you dont like what THE PEOPLE want, does NOT give you a mandate to subvert their will.

We live under RULE OF LAW. You DO NOT SUBVERT THE RULE OF LAW. Ever. Period. No matter how "SURE" you are that you are on the side of "peace and democracy".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 07/01/2009
- KinkyGirl I'm a Fan of KinkyGirl 9 fans permalink
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Ooooh, evil person!. Deep academical statement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 07/01/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 23 fans permalink

No one in the UN is against Zelaya's return to finish his four year term. The military is supporting Honduran Congress who reportedly appointed Micheletti who continues to say said it was he who would serve out Zelaya's term.
When Zelaya shows up in Honduras on Thursday with Ecuadoran and Argentine Presidents, seems the military will back down or face havoc. The International community demand his peaceful return.

It will be interesting.

Power to the people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 06/30/2009
- bobo5 I'm a Fan of bobo5 19 fans permalink

The diplomatic repurcussions would be great should Zelaya be detained upon arrival. This rises above politics to democracy itself. This is why Mexico, Venezuela, France, the US recognize Zelaya. The OAS says no golpes del estado.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Where is Jimmy Carter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 07/01/2009

I do not even want to contemplate the outcome of the golpistas continued, dangerous shortsightedness.

It is a horror.

I abhor violence to my very bones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 07/01/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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UN & obama back Manuel Zelaya: So What!

Why should Hondurans listen or care what the UN or obama have to say. The man was trying to extend his term limits. The country's constitution forbids this. So the country's congress and military stepped into uphold the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 06/30/2009

Pinochet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 06/30/2009

Exactly!!!

It's what civilized countries do when someone goes beyond their authority. Power to the people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 06/30/2009

No. In fact. It is not what civilized countries do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 07/01/2009
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 154 fans permalink
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Neither backed Zelaya. Both backed the rule of law. Using the military to accomplish something that should be done constitutionally is weak-minded and dangerous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 06/30/2009
- Strega I'm a Fan of Strega 393 fans permalink
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Exactly!!!!!! Using the military is not what "civilized" countries do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/30/2009

They did exactly what their constitution calls for them to do. They are heroes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/30/2009
- Strega I'm a Fan of Strega 393 fans permalink
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He wanted a referendum on it - he wasn't forcing it - if the referendum failed, so would extending term limits - you don't send in the military to depose someone freely elected by the majority (or minority for that matter, or bush wld've never served 8 yrs!) - get a clue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 06/30/2009

Wrong. He had his supporters storm a military post where the ballots, which he had ordered from Hugo Chavez, were kept. He was trying to pull an end run around the Constitution of Honduras, which made him a traitor. The military's role is one defined by their Constitution, and they took it seriously. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Semper fi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/30/2009

It was a non-binding resolution to gauge support for the changes, as provided under Honduras's "Civil Participation Act" of 2006.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 07/02/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Strega---He lost his citizenship for inciting, promoting his so called referendum for the continuation or re-election of the President (of Honduras). He broke a Constitutional Law he became a criminal and a non-citizen, is that difficult to understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 07/02/2009
- SuiginTou7 I'm a Fan of SuiginTou7 69 fans permalink
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Over reacted you mean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 06/30/2009

What is interesting is that in the end, Zelaya will have enhanced power and influence because of the failed. It is amazing how conservative actions always turn out the opposite of their purpose.

I'm not in favor of Zelaya having more power at all; I'm merely pointing out how he is going to look like a victor, and people will see him as stronger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 06/30/2009

because of the failed [coup]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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You are assuming he will regain control I guess?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/30/2009
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Without doubt.

We can't allow the military to just waltz in ANYWHERE & just take over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/30/2009

I'm assuming Micheletti can't hold onto the presidency. I don't see how he can. Not one state or institution recognizes him as the president.

My guess is that either Zelaya carries on until November elections or new elections will be called as part of this standoff. Either way, Micheletti and his backers (the wealthy) will look like losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/30/2009
- Jimmyboyo I'm a Fan of Jimmyboyo 19 fans permalink

of course he will

$215 mill US aid turned off = the army eating mold covered waste from trash cans, so they will back down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/30/2009

As soon as he arrives in Tegucigalpa, he should be taken to his ranch in Olancho to mull his future as a world leader among the moos of his livestock. Just like that other rancher in Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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He should be jailed like they warned him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/30/2009

When the electorate of our countries keep going to the polls as cattle to the stockyard, we are going to have macho ranchers (vaqueros-cowboys) as leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 06/30/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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We need to pay attention to obama"s foreign policy.

He has given only tepid support to democratic protesters in Iran.

He has burned bridges with the French, something no one thought possible.

He has insulted the British and refuses to embrace the idea of it being our strongest alliance.

He refuses to take on the North Koreans despite their intentions to launch a missile toward Hawaii.

And now obama is standing with Chavez, Castro, and a host of communist regimes and sympathizers in Central and South America on the issue of Honduras.

To recap: The Honduran President decided, like Chavez, to have an "election" in order to keep himself in office longer than the law allowed.

The Honduran Constitution requires that Presidents serve one term. Given Latin American history, it is a good thing. The Constitution also requires that referendum be approved by the Honduran Congress.

The President of Honduras decided to have a referendum on giving him more time in office, which the Congress blocked. He went ahead anyway. The Honduran Supreme Court told him to stop. He ignored them.

So the Congress and the Supreme Court ordered the military to remove the President of Honduras. It was no coup. It was an attempt by two co-equal branches of government from preventing the third co-equal branch from becoming a dictator.

Nonetheless, obama sees it differently. He is supporting the democratically ousted President of Honduras. He joins Chavez and Castro.

Meanwhile, people are still dying in Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 06/30/2009
- petera63 I'm a Fan of petera63 14 fans permalink
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Bravo! Totally agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 07/01/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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To recap with facts:

The Honduran President wanted to have a non binding referendum to gauge the will of the people on whether they would like to change the constitution to allow the President a second term. A non binding referendum is like a Gallup Poll.

The Honduran armed forces chief, General Romeo Vasquez refused to allow the non binding referendum to take place. The president fired the general.

The supreme court ordered the president to reinstate the general, when the president did not obey them they told the army to remove the president.

Here is a link to the story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/29/manuel-zelaya-honduras-coup-protests

But I guess you Right Wingers believe that the Supremes should override democratic processes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 07/01/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Pino -- You forgot to mention about him bowing to the "Dictator" of Saudi Arabia. Also where's his real long form birth certificate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 07/01/2009
- Zatara I'm a Fan of Zatara 4 fans permalink

Drug Trafficking charges will be just one of various charges Zelaya will have to answer to if he returns to Honduras. The DEA and other friendly countries are being presented with such evidence by Honduran authorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 06/30/2009

Hmmm we are supposed to distrust Zelaya,... but have complete faith in the government's position? Hmmm

I for one would like to see some of this "evidence"... in particular I'd like to see how far back it extends and I assume drug dealers did not just appear out of nowhere only in Zelayas administration.

The illegitimate Honduran government HAS NO FRIENDLY COUTURIERS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 06/30/2009
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Note there is no link to support the fake info that was posted.......just more Right Wing blather.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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I distrust Zelaya because like Chavez he was attempting to change their constitution to benefit himself while in office. That's what bothers me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 06/30/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 68 fans permalink

Honduran authorities? Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Give you a break? For what? Don't even know what it is you're talking about since you didn't provide a quote or link?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Honduran Presidents( and other politician) give me a break!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/30/2009

Ohhhhhh Aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Oooooooooooooo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 06/30/2009
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There are clear and legal channels to present evidence of wrong doing.
The Military taking it upon themselves to oust a sitting President is in all cases extra-legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 06/30/2009
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We need to pay attention to obama’s foreign policy.

He has given only tepid support to democratic protesters in Iran.

He has burned bridges with the French, something no one thought possible.

He has insulted the British and refuses to embrace the idea of it being our strongest alliance.

He refuses to take on the North Koreans despite their intentions to launch a missile toward Hawaii.

And now obama is standing with Chavez, Castro, and a host of communist regimes and sympathizers in Central and South America on the issue of Honduras.

To recap: The Honduran President decided, like Chavez, to have an “election” in order to keep himself in office longer than the law allowed.

The Honduran Constitution requires that Presidents serve one term. Given Latin American history, it is a good thing. The Constitution also requires that referendum be approved by the Honduran Congress.

The President of Honduras decided to have a referendum on giving him more time in office, which the Congress blocked. He went ahead anyway. The Honduran Supreme Court told him to stop. He ignored them.

So the Congress and the Supreme Court ordered the military to remove the President of Honduras. It was no coup. It was an attempt by two co-equal branches of government from preventing the third co-equal branch from becoming a dictator.

Nonetheless, obama sees it differently. He is supporting the democratically ousted President of Honduras. He joins Chavez and Castro.

Meanwhile, people are still dying in Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 06/30/2009
- Chloe33 I'm a Fan of Chloe33 21 fans permalink

Gee, what a surprise that the UN would back a wannabe dictator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 06/30/2009
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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Huh?

Last I heard he was elected president of Honduras, hardly a wannabe dictator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 06/30/2009
- Chloe33 I'm a Fan of Chloe33 21 fans permalink

But he wants to "bend" their constitution for another term in office......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 06/30/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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So was Sadam H.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 06/30/2009
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