Bernie Sanders Demands Democrats Commit To Stopping Health Care Filibuster

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First Posted: 07- 1-09 09:44 AM   |   Updated: 08- 1-09 05:12 AM

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One of the Senate's most vocal progressives is demanding that the Democratic Party commit to voting against filibustering health care legislation now that, with the impending arrival of Al Franken, the party has 60 caucusing members.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), called on the White House and Democratic leadership in Congress to ensure that party members agree unanimously to support cloture on legislation that would revamp the nation's health care system. Democratic senators on the fence, he added, could still oppose the bill. But at the very least they should be required to let the legislation come to an up-or-down vote.

"I think that with Al Franken coming on board, you have effectively 60 Democrats in the caucus, 58 and two Independents," Sanders said in an interview with the Huffington Post. "I think the strategy should be to say, it doesn't take 60 votes to pass a piece of legislation. It takes 60 votes to stop a filibuster. I think the strategy should be that every Democrat, no matter whether or not they ultimately end up voting for the final bill, is to say we are going to vote together to stop a Republican filibuster. And if somebody who votes for that ends up saying, 'I'm not gonna vote for this bill, it's too radical, blah, blah, blah, that's fine.'"

"I think the idea of going to conservative Republicans, who are essentially representing the insurance companies and the drug companies, and watering down this bill substantially, rather than demanding we get 60 votes to stop the filibuster, I think that is a very wrong political strategy," Sanders added.

Coming hours after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Franken the winner in a nearly eight-month recount process, Sanders' remarks reflect what will likely be a more aggressive political ethos from within the Democratic Party. Having a sixtieth caucusing member in the Senate gives the party the margin it needs to stave off a Republican filibuster, which seems all but certain should health care reform include a public option for insurance coverage. But the reality remains that the Democratic caucus is far from united. Corralling all of its members behind one piece of health care legislation -- especially the public option -- remains elusive.

Sanders' advice, which he hinted at in a separate interview with the Washington Post's Ezra Klein, is to simply take the parliamentary hurdles out of the process. The Party wouldn't have to worry about whip counts and could, in the end, get a more favorable final product, he believes.

"I think that politically that is something everybody can handle. You say, 'Look, I think there should be a vote. I'm gonna vote against it for A, B and C reasons. But I think the process has to move forward and it's unacceptable that Republicans keep trying to stop everything," said the Vermont Independent, who added that "The White House could play a very important part in this process"

"I think it would be great if we could have 100 senators voting for this, but what is important is the product that you get, not bipartisanship," Sanders went on. "So we should ask Republicans to support it. If they choose not to they do so at their own political risk. The focus should be on a strong bill trying to get Republican support rather than a weak bipartisan bill."

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To this point, Senator Ben Nelson has hinted that he may oppose a public option for insurance coverage but has told constituents in Nebraska that he could very well support cloture despite opposing the bill itself. Other Democrats on the fence include Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Kay Hagan, of North Carolina, and Diane Feinstein of California.

As for the actual legislation itself, Sanders said he expected a strong public option to come out of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions final product, But he worried that it would be "watered down" in order to bring Republican lawmakers on board. The concern, as Sanders expressed it, was that key Democrats in the process -- namely Senate Finance Committee Chairman Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont. -- were structuring their efforts to recruit Republican support rather than the best policy. He ridiculed the so-called "Coalition of the Willing," a group of four Republicans and three Democrats, organized by Baucus to help craft his reform proposal.

"The people who are sitting around who may determine health reform in the Senate are a majority of Republicans," Sanders said, incredulously.

In its place, Sanders proposed a Coalition of Unwilling -- as in a group of lawmakers unwilling to sacrifice a progressive bill for the sake of bipartisanship.

"Something is very wrong," he said. "What Sen. Baucus said is that the strategy should be to reach out to Republicans. All of them, without exception oppose a public plan. So what you'll end up having is a very weak piece of legislation probably regressively funded. My strategy is different."

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A point about Bernie Sanders Burlington VT has a legacy left to it by Bernie 51 percent of the elementary school children in Burlington live in poverty. %1 percent of Burlington Vt's children live in poverty and that was during the boom times.

Bernie has taxed productivity in Burlington and forced the capital intensive blue collar jobs out of town or out of state. a 20% tax on all new equipment has wrung all the promise from Burlington's blue collar.
51 percent of Burlington's children live in poverty.. Bernie Sanders legacy. If you think Bernie should be forming national policy think about the 51% of Burlington's children who live in poverty and ask yourself is that what I want for my children?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 07/08/2009
- Roxanna I'm a Fan of Roxanna 28 fans permalink

Bernie Sanders..... Is Right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 07/02/2009
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I fear that the point Sen. Sanders is making here is being lost. This is not about the ultimate vote for or against the healthcare bill put before the Senate~that's another beast entirely. This is simply about a cloture vote to curtail the impending filibuster.

The final vote will be a point of reckoning, without a doubt. But there should be a fair up or down vote on the issue. I find it infuriating that we have moved to a point that demands a 60 vote threshold to pass legislation. This is merely a parliamentary shell game that ensures that the jellyfish (Reid, Baucus, et. al.) can posture and preen while asserting that they have no power to put a stop to the obstruction.

I have a feeling that this vote could quite possibly seal the fate of many Democrats come the 2010/2012 election cycles.

Here's hoping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 07/02/2009
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 78 fans permalink
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Bernie Sanders is the best in the Senate. Kucinich is his equal in the House. It starts to dwindle from there, in terms of integrity and the fight for progressive values. Sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 07/02/2009
- mcartri I'm a Fan of mcartri 9 fans permalink

Bernie & Dennis are the very best congressmen money CAN'T buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 07/02/2009
- Swedishgal I'm a Fan of Swedishgal 18 fans permalink

Yep you're two are right about that. I wish we had more Reps and Sens like them. Just think what we could get accomplished if we did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 07/02/2009

Amen. I wish there were more like them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 07/02/2009
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Baucus et al should be planning retirement than making healthcare; filthy corporate barking dogs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 07/02/2009
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We love you, Bernie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 07/02/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 31 fans permalink
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Funny, Obama has a bigTown Hall Meeting yesterday about his health care bill and there is no link here on Huffington Post or it is buried somewhere. Why is that? Interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 07/02/2009
- sosi I'm a Fan of sosi 8 fans permalink
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With preselected audiences and preselected questions, a showcase not so presentable to public?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 07/02/2009
- motu I'm a Fan of motu 8 fans permalink
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bs... they gave out some tix via requests to WH and te others at the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/02/2009
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Funny, that's how every one of Bush's fake "town halls" were done. Where were you then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/02/2009
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Senator Sanders is probably my favorite Senator. I enjoy his radio talk spots on 1150 M in L.A.

Hey, Reid is all into bipartisanship. He is trying to not bull dose that "Loyal Opposition". BULL PUCKY. He and every other sentient American knows the Republican Party (what's left of it) has sworn a vendetta against the Obama Administration to obstruct and if possible cause it to fail. This has been highly publicised, and Reid is being very disingenuous at the least to try to lead us to believe that what he thinks the Republicans wish to do to Congressional legislative attempts would be any thing else than to obstruct them or cause their failure. He is going easy on the Single Payer Option because he is compromised by his true constituents. These are not the voters in his State, of course. It is an error to call him "weak", or "spineless". He has an agenda and is adhering steadfastly to it. It's just not OUR agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/02/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 31 fans permalink
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Funny, Obama has a bigTown Hall Meeting yesterday about his health care bill and there is no link here on Huffington Post or it is buried somewhere. Why is that? Interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 07/02/2009

Let's have a look at what our heroes have been up to lately
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124650399438184235.html
Scumbags.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 07/02/2009
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Too many here are quick to cite the immorality of 47 million uninsured, and demand that government spending be increased so they can be covered.

Too few recognize the immorality of the government already spending more than enough money to cover everyone, while only providing care to seniors, veterans, the disabled, and poor children, and fail to demand better value for the money we already spend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 07/01/2009
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

The Dems could have 100 senators and still bow to political pressure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/01/2009
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LOL exactly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 07/02/2009
- mcartri I'm a Fan of mcartri 9 fans permalink

Most are political whores with corporations doing their pimping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/02/2009
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Bernie is a voice of sanity and compassion in a money-driven, corrupt system. He's the Mr. Smith who went to Washington. Get 'em, Bernie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 07/01/2009
- mcartri I'm a Fan of mcartri 9 fans permalink

Bill Moyers: "Money ruined Democracy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/02/2009

Well put sir. I called AND wrote my Senators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 07/01/2009

Thank you Senator Sanders for being there for us average Americans. We need to make sure that Congress and all the other Federal employees, current and retired, gets the same health insurance coverage that the average American lives with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 07/01/2009

Bernie Sanders is a National treasure; I put him alongside Helen Thomas as an outspoken advocate
of speaking truth to power without worrying about who will be offended. As for Reid and Pelosi, how
did a party with so many smart, articulate people end up with such dithering, incoherent, inarticulate
incompetents??? Unbelievable!!! You couldn't make this stuff up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 07/01/2009
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