California Misses Deadline, May Now Have To Issue IOUs

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JUDY LIN | 07/ 1/09 06:43 PM | AP

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — States from coast to coast began a new fiscal year Wednesday with no budget plans and with cash quickly running out, sending some to the brink of shutdown and forcing others to furlough workers and cut services.

In California, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a fiscal emergency and ordered state offices closed three days a month to save money as the state sank deeper into dysfunction. State officials plan to pay bills with IOUs starting Thursday.

But the pain extends far beyond the West Coast. The governor of Pennsylvania is proposing a 16 percent tax increase. A budget veto by the Illinois governor left the state with no spending plan at all. Indiana barely avoided a shutdown.

In most states, the debate centers on whether states should be raising taxes to bridge the budget gaps. Schwarzenegger said he wouldn't sign anything that raised taxes or fees beyond what he has already proposed.

"I'm proud of California, even though we have our crisis," the governor said. "No one can point fingers, because as you can see, there are 30 states right now that have their fiscal year starting today that also don't have a budget, so I mean let's not get carried away and just look at California as we are the only state that cannot manage the budget."

The recession has taken a devastating toll on tax revenues and state finances. States had a cumulative $121 billion budget gap in crafting this year's budgets _ and the gap would be even bigger without federal stimulus money, said Todd Haggerty, a research analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures.

"You can't look to any one region that's performing better than the others," Haggerty said. "You can see Arizona and California in the west, Ohio and Illinois in the middle and Pennsylvania and North Carolina in the east."

The NCSL says seven states _ Arizona, Connecticut, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania _ have experienced delays or had to extend their sessions to deliberate on the budget.

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In California, which has a budget but one that is out of balance, the Legislature will have 45 days to send Schwarzenegger a plan to close a gap now pegged by the governor at $26.3 billion. After that, they can't adjourn or act on other bills until they solve the crisis.

The budget woes will lead to a third monthly furlough day for more than 200,000 state employees, bringing their total pay cut to about 14 percent. The state controller could extend $3 billion worth of IOUs for July.

Businesses that provide services to the state, taxpayers owed refunds and college students who get state help would be given IOUs. Banks are waiting for the state to decide the interest rate, so it's unclear whether people could cash them.

Pennsylvania will delay payments to vendors after a partisan stalemate over the deficit stalled approval of the state budget. Gov. Ed Rendell on Wednesday stood behind his call for a 16 percent income tax hike, saying the budget could not be balanced without it.

Meanwhile, state workers will receive only partial pay on July 17 and July 24, and after that paychecks will be withheld entirely until the impasse is solved. Workers will be paid retroactively. Rendell said 10 banks and credit unions have agreed to help 69,000 state employees by offering them low- or no-interest loans and lines of credit.

In Illinois, Gov. Pat Quinn on Wednesday vetoed the bare-bones budget lawmakers sent him, leaving the state with no spending plan. The House and Senate are expected to meet July 14 to consider an override.

Asked how long government could operate without a budget, Quinn said, "The next few days are crucial."

Mississippi lawmakers left one whole agency _ the state's utility regulatory agency _ unfunded. The Public Service Commission said it didn't know how it would function, but Gov. Haley Barbour says he can run the agency by executive order.

In Connecticut, Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell vetoed the Democrats' budget proposal, saying it was not balanced or realistic. She signed an executive order to keep the government running without a two-year budget in place.

In Ohio, a budget impasse intensified over a proposal by Gov. Ted Strickland to put slot machines at the state's seven horse racing tracks, all but guaranteeing lawmakers would need a second temporary budget before they could resolve their differences.

Indiana narrowly averted a large-scale government shutdown after coming to terms on a budget. And Arizona, Indiana, Ohio, Connecticut and Mississippi also were among the other states that raced against the clock to pass budgets.

The mess in California could spread nationwide because of the sheer size of the state economy. The Senate rejected three bills designed to save $5 billion, including $3.3 billion in education funding cuts that had to be enacted before Wednesday.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, a Democrat, called Republicans' refusal to vote for the measures "an irresponsible position to take."

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Associated Press Writers Juliet Williams, Samantha Young, Don Thompson in Sacramento, Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Paul Davenport in Phoenix, Christopher Wills in Springfield, Ill., Mike Smith in Indianapolis, Susan Haigh in Hartford, Conn., Emily Wagster Pettus in Jackson, Miss., and Mark Scolforo in Harrisburg contributed to this report.

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — States from coast to coast began a new fiscal year Wednesday with no budget plans and with cash quickly running out, sending some to the brink of shutdown and forcing others...
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — States from coast to coast began a new fiscal year Wednesday with no budget plans and with cash quickly running out, sending some to the brink of shutdown and forcing others...
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- Joseph A. Palermo - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Joseph A. Palermo 405 fans permalink

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/arnold-schwarzenegger-and_b_223658.html

Schwarzenegger's epic fail -- about 30 percent of the pop love everything he's doing, well, just try to win an election with 30 percent, Tea Baggers, and talk radio dopes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 07/02/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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Joe... you drinkin?

Calif. is suffering from Liberal policy...

"Wake-up"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 07/04/2009
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Jct: There’s nothing wrong with small denomination California State IOUs if I or anyone else can pay their taxes with them. When Argentina’s government workers were faced with cuts, their unions talked 6 state governments into paying them with small-denomination state bonds which could be used to pay for state services and taxes and which everyone accepted as useful currency. Best of all, when the local currency is pegged to the Time Standard of Money (how many dollars per unskilled hour child labor) Hours earned locally can be intertraded with other timebanks globally! In 1999, I paid for 39/40 nights in Europe with an IOU for a night back in Canada worth 5 Hours.
U.N. Millennium Declaration UNILETS Resolution C6 to governments is for a time-based currency to restructure the global financial architecture. See my banking systems engineering analysis at http://youtube.com/kingofthepaupers
Too bad California State IOUs won’t be accepted in payment for state taxes and services like state bonds were in Argentina. Too bad California State IOUs will be denominated too big to use as local currency. Too bad Argentina people were smart enough to avoid the tent-cities catastrophe and California people are too stupid to follow their example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 07/02/2009
- charon I'm a Fan of charon 18 fans permalink

California is the wealthiest state in the union and ranks in the top ten nations in GDP. We should have a well-financed government, decent health care for all, great schools, etc. Instead we rank down around Mississippi in education and health care, and are nearly bankrupt financially. Something is seriously wrong with this picture. Didn't Arnold have a bushco man come into the state as a consultant on how to "fix" the ecomony? Did that man just set California up for failure, as part of a larger Republican scheme to harm liberal states? Arnold should be investigated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 07/02/2009
- bannorhill I'm a Fan of bannorhill 29 fans permalink

The picture is worse when you realize California ranks 6th in taxes.

Near the top in taxes and near the bottom in spending on education.

What does California waste its money on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/02/2009

Absurdly high State Employee Union benefits. Poorly run government programs.

My best friend works for a State agency which administers Medical (she is a big time liberal by the way) A direct quote from her " This job is turning me into a Republican. You cannot believe the level of fraud and waste that goes on in my agency everyday.. When I try to do something about it I am told by my superiors don' t even bother unless it is at least $100,000 or more. Probably 40-45% of the people in our program are here illegally but manage to get on the program because they either have phony documents or they have a baby here. We even have clients who live in Mexico and are on the program. I know because I get a computer readout of where they get all their prescriptions filled. You would never know there is a budget crisis in my agency. They just hired 2 new upper level managers at over $200,000 each."

Extrapolate that to all state agencies and you begin to get the picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 07/02/2009
- robbrian I'm a Fan of robbrian 8 fans permalink
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Ok it's time to let some adults take over the Ca. legislature. These adults would immedieately rewrite those laws and initiatives voted on by egomaniacal Californians unaccustomed to adulthood. These brats, succeeded in defying conventional wisdom with their "Liberal" propositions and even now, wallow in their "spoiled sense of governance."

They need only to look at N. Dakota for a model of how to run a surplus and keep everyone on the payroll. There is nothing that prohibits the Gov from recommending the creation of a State Bank, which would have the authority to issue California dollars as a medium of exchange...legal tender. The State Bank would then provide funding for all of California's public sector needs without incurring interest debt.

Duuuuhhh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Wake-up - Dems have been running the State since 1988.
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California has had a Republican governor for 22 of the last 26 years.

LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 07/01/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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Hey Einstein... the Governor does not make the laws is not King, learn some basic civics before bloviating...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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The Republicans exploited the two-thirds rule once again and all three of the bills went down in 25 to 14 votes, with Senator Abel Maldonado (R-Santa Maria) abstaining. The two-thirds rule for passing budgets means that Schwarzenegger and the Republican minority chose to run the state off a cliff rather than strike a compromise with the majority Democrats. Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) said on the Senate floor just minutes before the midnight deadline expired that it was "unbelievable" that the Senate would allow $7 billion to evaporate into thin air in a matter of minutes. It was a sad, pathetic display of gridlock brought to us by a Republican governor and fourteen Republican Senators.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/arnold-schwarzenegger-and_b_223658.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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"It was a sad, pathetic display of gridlock brought to us by a Republican governor and fourteen Republican Senators. They once again put partisanship and the special interests to which they are beholden above the health of the state."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/arnold-schwarzenegger-and_b_223658.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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no one said he was king, it`s no coincidence that most of these faltering, failing states have Republican governors, the Kings of corporate bankruptcy and fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/01/2009
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 78 fans permalink
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Conservatives here in Michigan detest our Democratic Governor, Jennifer Granholm, yet I see she's not on the above list of States in emergency. This, in spite of the fact that the Rethuglican Michigan Legislature has blocked her at every pass; and in spite of the fact that we have tens of thousands of laid off autoworkers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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"These recordings provide powerful evidence of the market misconduct that inflicted so much harm on California businesses and consumers. Hear for yourself how Enron traders and their partners bragged and laughed about stealing money from "Grandma Millie" and California. (Note: These excerpts are uncensored and may contain vulgar language, such as exchanges in "Grandma Millie," "Needing Blackouts" and "Reliant Making A Killing."

http://www.ag.ca.gov/antitrust/energy/

Republicans, Enron, Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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2004- Governor uses the 'B' word - BANKRUPTCY .

Although states cannot file for bankruptcy, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger made these comments in his State of the State speech Tuesday:

-- "Together, we put measures on the March ballot that, if passed by the people, will save our state from a June bankruptcy."

-- "If we continue spending and don't make cuts, California will be bankrupt."

-- "And a bankrupt California cannot provide services to anyone."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/01/08/BUGAQ45FFI1.DTL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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What does Republican mismanagement of the state of California that was already broke from over 4 years ago have to do with our new President?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 07/01/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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Laughable!! The last time there was a GOP majority was 1988.

The Gov. is not a king, he can only sign what the Congress gives him and they've given him nothing.

the people WILL NOT approve tax hikes, they already shot them down a few months ago!

WAKE-UP!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 07/01/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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Sorry... Dems have been running the State since 1988.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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those are a Republican governor`s comments from 4 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Has a Republican or a Democrat been Governor of California 3 of the last 4 election cycles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/01/2009

Legalize and get rid of this problem in weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 07/01/2009

That wouldn't work, they'd just use that money on more of their stupid ideas and waste it......it is a good idea....but it definitely won't solve the problem...­.politicia­ns always think of new ways to increase their power with new revenue.....then when economic problems hit.....same problem....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Your right.

What happened to all the Lotto money for the schools.
The state and cities must keep it ALL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 07/01/2009
- Cubanmom I'm a Fan of Cubanmom 8 fans permalink

Is it me, or are MOST of the states in trouble GOP states? Or states with GOP governors?

Thanks to the Bush Disaster we are still in a deep recession! No revenue coming in, no money for the states! Duh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 07/01/2009

Yawn.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Only a Republican run state could pay teachers to do nothing.

"About 160 instructors and others get salaries for doing nothing while their job fitness is reviewed. They collect roughly $10 million a year.

For seven years, the Los Angeles Unified School District has paid Matthew Kim a teaching salary of up to $68,000 per year, plus benefits.

His job is to do nothing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers6-2009may06,0,3038809.story

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/01/2009

All are run by dumbocrats!! Get a clue!! Grow a brain!! Do some research before you open your big trap!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 07/01/2009

The states that didnt successfully raise revenue are in spirals. The states that raised enough to pay their people recieved revenue from them and those that made money off them, will pass through this.. That, in Pennsylvania, means our property taxes will go up less, and services will still exist, revenue will not be choked, and we will not spiral, so we can still sell bonds.. Whatever else the consequences are, we will survive this and recover enough to lower taxes. We have done THAT before. States that furlough are only recieving a partial savings as bennies still come due. In this dimension, it is called a tail end, mostly from health care cost spiral. Long live North Dakota.
"No tax cut has ever paid for itself" Time mag sometime in 08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/01/2009
- Wake-up I'm a Fan of Wake-up 47 fans permalink
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True, every tax cut has not paid for itself... it's paid off exponentailly to the people who actually pay taxes.

The problem with your analysis is:

1) Taxes never get lowered once raised - VERY rare
2) States need to make cuts and they choose not too

You want to pay more, great, send them as much as you want but don't force us to pay for illegal aliens, wasteful broken schools and health care for people who choose to not buy it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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Oct. 24 2007 - (Bloomberg) -- Four years after Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected governor of California, vowing to ``tear up the state's credit card,'' the actor and former body- builder is about to charge $7 billion to taxpayers' accounts.

California is selling notes tomorrow due in eight months to help pay its bills until tax revenue comes in, the largest short-term loan since Schwarzenegger took office and almost five times more than last year.

Debt is increasing after cash receipts fell $777 million below the state's projections during the first three months of the fiscal year that started July 1.

http://piggington.com/ca_going_broke_just_like_rest_of_country

California going broke has nothing to do with the current President of The United States,Barack Hussein Obama regardless of how many Republicans try to blame it on him.

California was broke in 1983 too....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 07/01/2009
- Chernynkaya I'm a Fan of Chernynkaya 454 fans permalink
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How can we trust the Republican Party, whose Great Communicator said, "government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

These people distrust government and want it to fail. When they are in power, the best they do is nothing, but more often they actively work to destroy government programs.

Bush (the most recent) wanted to starve all social services. They call it fiscal responsibility but the underlying motive is to make all government programs (even the military) defunct. They would prefer that the private sector ran everything, and then they could pillage the populace even more. Blackwater or Haliburton anyone? Privatize social security "to save it?"- right. Yosemite National Park is run by a private company. Private energy companies ala Enron. Vouchers for private (religious) schools. Private prisons.

Those have all worked out so well. That's what the republicans stand for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/01/2009

Bush starved social services..­....?.....­he actually doubled some......he spent much like a liberal.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 07/01/2009
- Chernynkaya I'm a Fan of Chernynkaya 454 fans permalink
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Maybe the prescription drug bill, which wasted tax dollars, didn't help seniors much, and was a bonanza for big pharma. Oh, and No Child Left Behind- an unfunded mandate that made schools teach how to pass tests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 07/01/2009
- jaybindi I'm a Fan of jaybindi 8 fans permalink

This is a direct result of Bush and now Obama big spending. The Federal Government is too big and they want to add more federal mandates to the states through cap and tax and universal health care.

This trillion dollar spending spree that Obama and the Democrats are on is not good for the country.

In a global economy with cheap labor you can't have a behemoth in Washington D.C.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/01/2009
- BillN I'm a Fan of BillN 20 fans permalink
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Obama wouldn't have had to spend a dime if it wasn't for the ECONOMIC COLLAPSE caused by his predecessor. How soon the naysayers forget.

So, tell me please....

Without the stimulus or bank bailouts (many of which occurred under Bush, by the way), where do you think we would be now?

The difference between Bush and Obama is this:

Bush spent tax revenues like a drunken sailor because he WANTED to... including his "off the books" war.

Obama injected tax revenues into banks, into auto companies, into large insurance carriers, and into the economy because he HAD to (see above).

Without the stimulus, you would have been reading a much worse article than this about five months ago.

My home county has roads and infrastructure crumbling. The recipients of the stimulus money are SITTING on it "just in case things get worse" and not investing it into so-called "shovel-ready projects" that were supposed to create jobs, and thus increase tax revenues into states, counties and municipalities.

This stimulus plan has to work all the way down the line, or it won't work at all.

Tell your local governments to get off of their collective @$$es and put OUR money to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/01/2009
- jaybindi I'm a Fan of jaybindi 8 fans permalink

Nope,

Bush spent like crazy and Obama is his twin when it comes to the economy.

Governments will always scare you and claim they need to waste and spend trillions or the sky will fall. This comes from both parties.

Now Obama and the democrats want to take us back to a 1970, union based economy. In a global economy with cheap labor this means America will be the land of cheap labor.

China is already putting measures in place to turn their billion plus into consumers. This is why they want a global currency and then they will stop buying our debt and when the government can't borrow and spend like crazy they will tax and spend and you will be working for pennies.

I guess this is the Change we can believe in., Sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 07/01/2009
- BillN I'm a Fan of BillN 20 fans permalink
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Lets also not forget that Bush inherited a surplus from his predecessor, and in a matter of a few years, turned it into record deficits - having borrowed more money than every US president back to George Washington put together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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what a joke.

The Republicans loot the economy then blame democrats...that is the only plan Republicans have for the country.

where is their numberless budget?

where is their healthcare plan?

Republicans are all for expanded powers,looting and big government only when they are in power, then it`s back to the whining when they are not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 07/01/2009
- cluesearch I'm a Fan of cluesearch 11 fans permalink
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The national debt was $10.9 trillion dollars the day Obama took office. The national debt was $5.6 trillion when Bush took office. There was a budget surplus when Bush took Office. There was a $1 trillion budget deficit when Obama took office--Bush just put didn't include the war spending or the stimulus plan in the original budget. Tell me again who is fiscally irresponsible?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 07/01/2009

Yup, left and right shouldn't matter in these debates, what should matter is being fiscally responsible, a problem that dems and repubs need to resolve....they both overspend.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 07/01/2009

If I don't have a sufficient income to support my family, even in the most meager way, cutting spending isn't going to solve my problems. I need to make more money. It's the same with states. They have lost a significant amount of their tax bases. Infrastructures are crumbling. People are literally going hungry. Cutting spending isn't going to solve anything. Revenues need to be raised. It's the only solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 07/01/2009

Raising taxes will drive out the wealthiest in the states, putting them in even more pain, that's why its a terrible idea, especially in these times, you think its bad now it will just get that much worse....CA has lost tons of millionaires and wealthy families.....as will the rest of these states with tax increases.........

I'm not going to give you advice but I'd recommend listening to Dave ramsey, still lots of jobs out there, not the best paying ones in the world but 2-3 jobs will usually make ends meat....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/01/2009

"No, it's the repubs' fault! No, it's the dems' fault!" The blame game aint going to fix anything. The time has come for solutions. First thing's first. You have to cut spending. You have to choose which constituencies are going to get less and be prepared to pay a political price---always happens when you cut the budget. You then can get a pretty good idea as to how much you'll need to raise revenue (increase taxes) to fund what's left but only AFTER you cut spending. Then again Obama can throw two scores and a few additional billions California's way, just as he threw hundreds of billions the banksters' way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- cooperone I'm a Fan of cooperone 3 fans permalink

solution:
bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan= gigantor savings

become a protectionist nation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 07/01/2009
- RRG64 I'm a Fan of RRG64 51 fans permalink
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yeah, make sure and don`t mention the trillions the Bush administration looted over the last 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 07/01/2009
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