Lieberman Reprises Role As Health Care Spoiler

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First Posted: 07- 1-09 06:15 PM   |   Updated: 07- 2-09 08:32 AM

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With reporting by Laura Dean

Sen. Joseph Lieberman affirmed on Tuesday what progressive health care reform advocates have long feared: At this juncture, he is likely to oppose a public option for health insurance coverage.

The Connecticut independent made his latest criticisms of a public option in an interview with the New Haven Independent. Weeks earlier, he told Bloomberg News that he didn't favor such an approach that might level the insurance industry market.

For Democrats, it was a shot to the gut -- the latest so-called centrist lawmaker from within their own party ranks speaking out against one of their most cherished aspects of health care reform. For all the angst Lieberman has caused within Democratic circles the past few years, he was supposed to be an ally on domestic issues.

But was it all that unexpected? Those close to the senator argue that he has always been skeptical of large government involvement in the health care industry and that he has always advocated for a more incremental approach to health care reform.

"He has been very consistent in trying to seek innovative approaches to try and get to universal health care coverage," said Dan Gerstein, a former aide. "When he was part of the '00 ticket, he supported Al Gore's step-by-step approach to getting health care reform, which at the time many progressives were very supportive of. This is not a debate about goals for him. This is a debate about means, both in terms of what makes sense on a policy basis and what is obtainable."

This certainly was the role Lieberman played during the last major reform effort. During the heart of the Clinton-era debate over the how to restructure the health care system, the then-Democrat was a constant thorn in the administration's side. As early as December 1993, he was calling the Clinton plan "too governmental, too regulatory and too costly." A supporter of a moderate bill championed by then Sen. John Breaux, Lieberman would add the descriptions "too big" and "too bureaucratic" to Clinton's approach several months later.

By the summer of 2004, Lieberman was attacking the notion that employers should be required to provide health care for their workers, arguing that there was "a universal consensus" against the idea. He pledged to try and strip the provision from Majority Leader George Mitchell's health care proposal. He also said he was willing to take a look at the plan put forth by the then Minority Leader, Sen. Bob Dole, which was structured largely after the approach then-candidate George H.W. Bush had promoted during the '92 campaign.

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A month later, Lieberman stepped up his push for Breaux's proposal, which called for providing subsidies to lower-income families, demanded that insurance companies cover preexisting conditions and limited the tax benefits employers enjoyed for covering their workers (components that defined John McCain's 2008 approach).

"If this doesn't break the logjam," Lieberman said at the time, "nothing will."

Later that summer, the senator joined the moderate push to make sharp cuts in the prescription drug benefit included in the Clinton and Mitchell plans. In its place, Lieberman promoted means-testing -- a measure to determine which individuals could qualify for those benefits -- and setting a cap on spending for long-term care.

A critic of that idea, John Rother, the chief lobbyist for the American Association of Retired Persons, derided Lieberman for putting the possibility of achieving health care reform "in jeopardy" in 1994.

"This is more of a Band-Aid approach than real health reform," Rother said at the time.

Asked to assess Sen. Lieberman's approach to health care 15 years later, Rother said that not much had changed. "Based on his record, this is no surprise," he told the Huffinton Post. "His views haven't really changed that much... I think anyone who followed his career sees he is an Independent in many ways. I don't think you could assume support just because he is aligned with the Democratic caucus."

Nevertheless, there was an element of the Democratic party that did hope that time and circumstance might have tempered Lieberman's position on the issue. Certainly, when Democrats accepted the senator back into their ranks after he campaigned publicly against President Barack Obama, the condition seemed to be that he would support Obama on key legislative issues.

Lieberman's office did not respond to a request for comment.

Lieberman, who over the course of his career has taken more than $1 million from health professionals and insurance companies, as well as more than $600,000 from pharmaceutical and health product companies and $250,000 from health services and HMOs, could still come on board. He started off his interview with the New Haven Independent by saying he was "skeptical" of the public option -- not fully opposed -- because he feared "the public is going to end up paying for it."

The progressive community is doing what it can to change his mind.

"We expect Sen. Lieberman to support President Obama's health care plan, including offering the choice of a new public health insurance option to lower costs and keep the insurance companies honest," Jacki Schechner, National Communications Director for Health Care for America Now. "As for Sen. Lieberman's concerns, the president just explained in today's Town Hall that his plans for reform will be deficit neutral, and we'll pay for reform by reallocating wasted money already in the system and by cutting itemized deductions for the wealthiest 2 percent."

UPDATE: Lieberman spokesman Marshall Wittmann writes on with the following comment, early Thursday morning.

Contrary to the suggestion that Senator Lieberman is a "health care spoiler," the opposite is true because Senator Lieberman is working hard to build a coalition to pass a health care reform bill. Although he does not support a public option that would be cost prohibitive and would make it very unlikely to pass a bill, he strongly supports health care reform that expands access, lowers costs and increases quality of care.


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- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 15 fans permalink
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As I have stated before, since Lieberman refuses to honor his agreements it is time he was stripped of his Chairmanship(s), seniority and barred from caucusing with the Democrats. He has no honor and I would not be surprised if he was passing along everything discussed in the caucuses to his good buddies John McCain and Lindsay Graham.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

Perhaps he see the damage the president and congress are doing to the Nation and its future and he feels the honorable path is to oppose that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 07/03/2009
- Renifer I'm a Fan of Renifer 7 fans permalink
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HHayden, how much are they paying you? I looked at your profile, and you spend your entire life on this blog. You have hundreds of posts to your name here, maybe more. You don't know a thing about government and you don't even know what the Constitution is all about. No one respects your uninformed opinion here, and it's obvious that your education is sorely lacking. Your paranoid ramblings are not helping your cause. Whatever they're paying you, it's too much. Either that or you don't have a job and are just looking for someone to blame for your sloth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/31/2009

Single payer! Single payer! Single payer! It's the only to control everyone who has a finger in the pie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 07/03/2009
- Cambridge9 I'm a Fan of Cambridge9 72 fans permalink
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We have to remember that Connecticut is one of the states which is home to some of this country's biggest insurance companies. Lieberman doesn't want to rock that boat. But we will get there if we flood the Hill's phone lines, e-mail boxes and snail mail boxes. We need to make nore noise in Lieberman's ear so that we drown out the insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 07/03/2009
- imvegan I'm a Fan of imvegan 7 fans permalink

What in the world did Al Gore ever see in this guy? I couldn't stand him, and it took everything I had to push that little chad out of the card next to their names in 2000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

You might concider working out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/03/2009
- Antonio518 I'm a Fan of Antonio518 10 fans permalink

Lieberman is a shill for the corporations. He is a right-wing fanatic whose allegiance to Israel takes priority over his allegiance to the US. He long ago adopted an avuncular manner, smiling and making sweet noises to throw people off the track at what a snake he is. He works for Israel and the Neocons and is about as democratic as Ghengis Kahn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

So, I guess Obama has taken over that roll.

Do you even know what a NeoCon is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/03/2009
- Renifer I'm a Fan of Renifer 7 fans permalink
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Wow, HHayter, You have to date 1,976 posts and counting.
You have no life. You only have insults and no arguments. How sad are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 07/31/2009
- moxieme I'm a Fan of moxieme 12 fans permalink

Technically, he's an independent. He just caucuses with the Dems. They should have clipped his wings when he came slithering back after the election. A leopard doesn't change their spots. The voters in CT need to get rid of him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 07/03/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 15 fans permalink
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The Democratic party tried that last time so he slithered in as independent without a party...he needs to learn that actions have consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

A number of people posting here think that Lieberman should have the special health care situation that congress enjoys stripped from him because they hate him. That's the sort of punitive action that I suspect the government will take if they gain control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/03/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 15 fans permalink
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Like for-profit does now when they deny claims they should be carrying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 07/03/2009

To the people of Connecticut; unless you want a republican representative in Washington, you should vote Lieberman out. He does not represent the average person. He is too concerned with the profits of big business. The more profit they make, the more they can give him. Typical politician. Typical republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

You should have stopped at typical politician. It's one of the few truly bipartisan activities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/03/2009

Too many politicians are "reluctant to approve a plan that slams the private insurance companies". Now isn't that just too bad? Private insurance companies have become morbidly obese on the gouging tactics they use to cut people out of the health care loop and it is way past time they WERE slammed! Indeed they will lose business, as they should!
There will be plenty of uber-rich who wouldn't dream of availing themselves of the health care offered to the "common people" and will continue to pay exorbitant rates for fancy insurance that covers their tummy-tucks and hour-and-a-half complaint sessions with their doctor. Let them continue to do so.
Give EVERYONE else what they want, need, and should get, single-payer coverage. That way young families won't have to skip going to the doctor with a fevered baby until it becomes an ER trip, and the elderly won't have to skip a visit to the doctor in order to eat.
Rich insurance companies do not care about the common person, so why should we care about their profits?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/03/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 15 fans permalink
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The for-profit health insurance has blood on its hands for intentionally letting people die by denying coverage of pre-existing conditions, "experimental" treatments that have been in use for 30 years and any other myriad reasons they can think up.
for-profit health insurance = immoral = should be illegal = profit over treatment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/03/2009

$1,850,000 is all you really need to know about LieberGOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 07/03/2009
- nogimmicks I'm a Fan of nogimmicks 28 fans permalink

At least with J.L. it is easy: - every policy or decision he is supporting is wrong and damaging to the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

Sounds like Obama to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/03/2009
- Renifer I'm a Fan of Renifer 7 fans permalink
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And you sound like Lieberman, Hhater. Full of lies and misinformation, muddying the waters with your crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 07/31/2009
- Lasnoe I'm a Fan of Lasnoe 11 fans permalink

Lieberman is the model Democrat..... you left wing should be more accepting of him..... exactly how you expect us to be accepting of Coln Powell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

They don't mind turn coat who turn their way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 07/03/2009

This guy is unbelievable! Send him back to buddies McCain and Graham--he fits in nicely there---The Three Stooges!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

Which one is Moe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 07/03/2009
- Lasnoe I'm a Fan of Lasnoe 11 fans permalink

Lieberman is the model Democrat..... you left wing should be more accepting of him..... exactly how you expect us to be accepting of Coln Powell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/03/2009
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The time wll come, this I know. When I will say, firm but low: "Hit the road. Good riddance, Joe."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

There once was a man from, well, who knows
Who talks a good talk but his nose grows
We should cling to our freedom
His lies not to heed 'em
We'll find that he nothing but show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 07/03/2009
- Renifer I'm a Fan of Renifer 7 fans permalink
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HHayter, you speak of yourself in this poem. Interesting. It's either you or LIEberman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/31/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 137 fans permalink

Ironically Lieberman may be our last chance for real health care reform. Follow me: He torpedoes this sorry watered down excuse of health care reform known as the "public option" because it doesn't appeal to right wing nuts like him. Elections in 2010 or 2012 purge us of him and enough DINOs (blue dog and "centrist" democrats) as well as terminating the GOP's life support so we get an actual representation of the REAL center of America in office. They accept that real reform requires real change and we get single payer which remains the only valid approach to health care reform we've discussed.

Okay, a long shot but better than anything we've got going for us right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

When one entity, particularly the government, holds all the cards they just get more dictatorial. Try and think what they will do when they are the only game in town. Nothing ever works out like it was touted in the beginning. If they can't keep Medicare funded adequately, why do you think they will do better with this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 07/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 137 fans permalink

Because Medicare's main problems are the fact that it serves in an industry experiencing runaway inflation AND it's the dumping ground for people the current "for profit" industry doesn't want.

Single payer would not only address our health care crisis, it would also go along way towards fixing medicare, medicaid, and even the VA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/03/2009
- jinxed I'm a Fan of jinxed 15 fans permalink
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Please substitute for-profit health insurance industry with your assertion of government only health care and you are describing exactly what we have now. DUH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 07/03/2009
- digdeeper I'm a Fan of digdeeper 16 fans permalink

Another turncoat when it comes to reforms that favour mainstreet. What a creep, no doubt he has private health care so s---d the rest.!
Another toe rag in the pockets of Private health care lobbiest no doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 07/03/2009
- gpeach36 I'm a Fan of gpeach36 12 fans permalink

Has anyone actually read about Canada's healthcare plan and done any research or just listen to the sound bites about not getting good healthcare. I have a friend whose mother has lived in Canada for years and they say the negative talk is not true at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

I wonder the same about Obama's scam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 07/03/2009
- maxhnb I'm a Fan of maxhnb 3 fans permalink
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Canada's healthcare is a success and has virtually no opposition in Canada. Those Canadiens believe that it is a moral duty to make sure that all people will not live in terror of being unable to receive treatment. While Canada is largely a conservative nation and mainly ruled by the Conservative party, they do not find National Medical care as a Socialist infringement on their lives. I have lived there and benefitted from this wonderful program and challenge anyone to identify and evidence its failings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

"I was once a believer in socialized medicine. I don’t want to overstate my case: growing up in Canada, I didn’t spend much time contemplating the nuances of health economics. I wanted to get into medical school—my mind brimmed with statistics on MCAT scores and admissions rates, not health spending. But as a Canadian, I had soaked up three things from my environment: a love of ice hockey; an ability to convert Celsius into Fahrenheit in my head; and the belief that government-run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people. When HillaryCare shook Washington, I remember thinking that the Clintonistas were right."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 66 fans permalink

Continued:

"My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 07/03/2009
- jdnyc I'm a Fan of jdnyc 5 fans permalink

joe lieberman is despicable, and it would be best for someone to show him the door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 07/03/2009
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