ABC News Reporter Tweets That Iranian Detainees Are Being Waterboarded [UPDATED]

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First Posted: 07- 2-09 05:43 PM   |   Updated: 07- 4-09 02:46 PM

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UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques were the norm. Via Glenn Greenwald:

Time for a letter to Clark Hoyt, New York Times public editor!

Mr. Hoyt--


I wonder if you'd be good enough to explain something to me. Mere months ago, you said:

"Exactly what constitutes torture continues to be a matter of debate and hasn't been resolved by a court. This president and this attorney general say waterboarding is torture, but the previous president and attorney general said it is not. On what basis should a newspaper render its own verdict, short of charges being filed or a legal judgment rendered?" Jehl argued for precision and caution. I agree. "

Yet, today, you have a piece by Michael Slackman, summarized on your site as follows: "The Iranian government has made it a practice to publicize confessions from political prisoners, often subject to sleep deprivation, solitary confinement and torture, rights groups say." The article somehow manages to avoid classifying these techniques with the commonplace and widely accepted term "enhanced interrogation techniques."

According to recent precedents, established by the United States, a government has the leeway to subject people to "intense questioning" as a part of a response to their national security interests. I wonder if you could explain how the word "torture" came to be used in this instance. Has a "legal judgement" been rendered that I've not heard of? Under what distinction is the word "torture" used here?

I'd very much like an explanation.

We'll see what he says about this!

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[h/t; The Daily Dish] From ABC News' Lara Setrakian, comes this tweet:

Tehrani source close to those detained says some have been beaten heavily and waterboarded with hot water #iranelection

In my younger years, I would simply expect this news to be greeted with universal outrage, knowing that the techniques being described had long been deemed to be well across the Bridge Too Far. Now that I've lived through the Bush administration, however, I am forced to contemplate the possibility that Iran is merely taking legitimate steps to obtain critical information in their nations' vital national security interests. One mustn't preclude the possibility that many of those being waterboarded are privy to information about "time bombs" that may, at this moment, be "ticking."

The whole matter could be investigated, I suppose, but I'm also forced to consider that once Iran is through this rough patch, it would be better if everyone involved just looked forward, not backward.

Anyway, I guess everyone's really playing follow-the-leader on this nation's innovations in the area of what our press calls "enhanced interrogation techniques." Pop champagne.

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UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques...
UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques...
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The only solution going forward appears to be: each of us looking at the man in the mirror.

There was once a Palestinian jew, (he went by the name Jesus), who rendered this judgement: "He without sin cast the first stone"

Michael Jackson - "I am starting with the man in the mirror". At this juncture, it is the only road towards a moral high ground. There is no nation left on this earth that can claim the position of moral high ground or that should even entertain the notion of casting the first stone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/14/2009

I blame the press if the allegations are true. Its on the hands of NBC, ABC, HP and all of you that opened your big mouths and print about waterboard­ing.....sh­ame on all of you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 07/05/2009
- doug108 I'm a Fan of doug108 19 fans permalink

I think he might respond that the article makes reference to what "rights groups" say. The paper hasn't rendered a verdict itself. It's just relaying what these groups are reporting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 07/05/2009
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NEWS FLASH! Iranian detainees being waterboarded confess to killing Princess Diana! The confess to working for the CIA! They confess to shooting Neda! They confess to being part of a global Zionist conspiracy! They confess to enjoying the waterboarding experience, and look forward to future 'reeducation' sessions!

More to come from THE LAND OF DEMOCRACY LOST.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/04/2009
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I think this photo is staged. The water looks like it hitting further back on the head not the mouth or nose area.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 07/04/2009
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Obama ceded the moral high ground by condoning the torture activities of the Bush/Cheney cr!iminal organization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 07/04/2009
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Obama now has the Hobbsian choice, stay silent as he has with regard to the torture performed by the US under the direction and approval of the Bush/Cheney cr!minal enterprise, or direct investigations into the US actions and demand international courts investigate the actions of Iran. I bet he sits on his hands again, he is too weak to move.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 07/04/2009

What would All Bama Channel (ABC( know about waterboarding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/04/2009
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Apparently not as much as the pro-torture (Hannity-Cheney) and political assassination (O'Reilly-George Tiller) and pro-Al Qaeda (Beck and Michael Scheuer) network of Fox News...

They are apparently the experts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 07/04/2009
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Obama needs to take a stand on this.

Investigate. Prosecute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/04/2009

The international community still gets outraged, which only makes it worse for the U.S. The fact that international law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 07/04/2009
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Good one. And on another thread, someone inferred that as a Canadian I should keep my nose out of US affairs, not to meddle...another hypocrisy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 07/04/2009
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Ignore them, they are in an extreme minority here. Everybody's views are welcome. Even tr0//s (except paid ones).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/04/2009
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As an American, I invite everyone form everywhere to call my government on each and every war crime and atrocity that US commits. We need to see beyond our borders; isolationism plays into the hands of reactionaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 07/04/2009
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 244 fans permalink

It's working!

IT'S WORKING!

Cheney has succeeded -- after all -- in bringing our unique freedoms to the good people of Iran!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 07/04/2009
- ssaz I'm a Fan of ssaz 3 fans permalink

The iranians obviously modeled their "legal" interrogation techniques after those of the Bush administration!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 07/04/2009
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Did the Ayatollah Dickmoud Al Cheney order this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 07/04/2009
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At least they're not being tortured.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 07/04/2009
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LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 07/05/2009
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